• lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    33·
    6 个月前

    I called this series “the new series” for ages. Now I know how people feel who grow up with TOS

  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.netEnglish
    32·
    6 个月前

    There’s also that episode where Riker and Worf violate the Prime Directive to try and stop a gender conversion therapy.

    There’s also Data with the banger line “One is my name. The other is not.”

  • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.worldEnglish
    29·
    6 个月前

    I hate that episode. Trip got date raped in a scene where the aggressor uses pedophile tactics, like tricking someone who doesn’t know better into sex by calling it a game, then the rest of the episode is spent on victim blaming and mockery.

    • pjwestin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      25·
      6 个月前

      There’s also a weird anti-abortion undertone where, whenever they talk about removing the fetus, they clarify that they would only do that if they could guarantee that it wouldn’t harm it. It’s as though someone who was tricked into sex without their consent isn’t justified in seeking an abortion (not that anyone needs a justification for an abortion beyond, “I don’t want to continue this pregnancy”).

  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.orgEnglish
    17·
    6 个月前

    Hell yeah. Many kinds of trans occured. Along with androgyne races etc. And every show was the pure definition of DEI.

    • josefo@leminal.spaceEnglish
      12·
      6 个月前

      Old Star Trek is the one before the one that got on TV while you were a kid. I grew up with TNG, so TOS is my old one.

      Another way of measurement could be “was Gene Roddenberry alive and involved when this came out?”, in that case, TOS and a good chunk of TNG are the old ST.

      • lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        7·
        6 个月前

        As someone who doesn’t subscribe to great man theory, I agree on the other point that, and I paraphrase, TOS, TNG and DS9 are old trek.

        Or to quote a different SciFi author:

        I’ve come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies:

        1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works.
        2. Anything that’s invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it.
        3. Anything invented after you’re thirty-five is against the natural order of things.

        Douglas Adams

  • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
    14·
    6 个月前

    i just watched the ds9 episode where quark gets force-femmed. as baseline misogynist as it was i was pleasantly surprised that some genuine character growth came out of it for multiple people.

  • KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    7·
    6 个月前

    There’s an TNG episode where one of the male crew members is wearing what people would consider a dress, I have a screenshot somewhere. I really liked seeing that.

  • Glitch@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    32·
    6 个月前

    Not too woke, imo. But too many hugs circles and happy crying at the end of each episode (Disco)

    • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
      71·
      6 个月前

      disco’s problem is that the overarching plot is insane. i’m all for enthusiasm and happiness but when the culmination of an entire season is “a man-baby’s crying caused half the galaxy to explode” then my disbelief-suspenders are snapped back on hard enough to leave marks.

      • SkaveRatEnglish
        6·
        6 个月前

        It would be an awesome plot for a local anomaly

        But Galaxy wide was just “nah”. Maybe if they let it be some newborn Q or something

        • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
          21·
          6 个月前

          well, sure. but like, the burn was this big mystery plotpoint for sooooo long and then the resolution just stupid. i watched until season four and the long arcs never resolved satisfyingly. it’s a bit like lost in that way. which is a shame because the characters and their chemistry kept me watching. except michelle yeoh’s character, which i never understood the point of other than to set up the section 31 movie.

            • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
              31·
              6 个月前

              maybe i interpreted it wrong then. i think i gave it a fair shake, and i enjoyed each episode in isolation, but the big plotlines didn’t click for me. when strange new worlds started i left discovery behind.

              it’s quite obvious where you stand on this, of course, so i think we can leave it at that.