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False dichotomy, much?
Crazy fucks do that sometimes. I wonder why people still listen to them.
“Owner of surveillance apparatus reckons we should all just chill and accept total surveillance”
This fucking dude.
Like seriously, in what reality are these two things NOT mutually exclusive? Also doesn’t palantir have contracts with China?
I’d rather be a free and open society than win any kind of industrial race.
“It’s just… We’re named after the artifact the ancient evil used to peer on the world.”
he has several companies named after lotr things, ANDURIL,mithril i think, lembas,etc.
That’s my point. He is enough of a fan to know the connotation. He knows what the name implies, and company names are a deliberate choice that imply things about that company.
I wonder if this is a “Star Trek is a conservative show” sort of thing. Like he’s genuinely not smart enough to actually understand what is right in front of him.
I mean it probably isn’t, but it also wouldn’t surprise me to find out that the whole deeper meaning of the entire thing was entirely lost on such a shallow excuse for a human.
Peter Thiel explicitly sided with Sauron in an interview, because “things work in Mordor, while outside Mordor it’s all wishy-washy and environmental”.
I wonder if this is a “Star Trek is a conservative show” sort of thing. Like he’s genuinely not smart enough to actually understand what is right in front of him.
That is exactly what this is, conservatives pride themselves on having a toddler’s sense of media literacy, especially the men.
It is a reoccuring pattern enough that I have seen multiple video essays on the general topic that try to unpack the different reasons because it is so confounding from the perspective of being a normal well adjusted adult.
I think it is a part of the same core thing as conservative humor being embarassingly bad, formulaic, weirdly cruel to specific groups and just plain not funny almost as a rule.
China WILL win the AI race and that’s because they invested in infrastructure and their power grid.
The US could have done that too, but we gave the money to billionaires instead. Building a surveillance state doesn’t fix any of the mistakes we made and they’ll still win the AI race.
Not to sound like a tankie but China has made smarter decisions with regard to power generation. The current shift away from renewables (and shift back to fossil fuel) AND more reliance on central power generation are great for billionaires but just dumb for every other reason. And with the what appears to be advancing in battery technology more distributed solar cells with local storage would free up more power for the power hungry data centers. Not to mention the AI programs there are not run by douchebags like Sam Altman and Mustafa Suleyman.
I also think the current path of AGI study via more advanced LLM research is the wrong path. A language generator is never going to be “smart”. But what do I know, I don’t have billions of dollars and lie constantly.
It’s not Tankie to admit aspects of reality. China is doing some things well. China has spent the last 20 years investing in itself, America has spent the last 20 years investing in other countries for a possible ROI for the military-industrial complex.
What would be Tankie would be to then extrapolate from that and say they’re actually the best state in the world and anyone who says otherwise is a imperialist brainwashed pigdog.
So we need to start covert anti-corruption efforts n China, since China will win, we don’t want a single party member destroying the world…I don’t know what we can actually do, but it is crucial for the human race that China develops more benevolent values if at all possible.
I don’t know what we can actually do
Make it easier for Chinese Nationals to study abroad, educate them on the idea of government transparency, separation of powers, checks and balances, the idea that government legitimacy comes from the people, idea of social contract, etc… Hope they bring back the knowledge to fix the country from within.
(Btw, Overseas Chinese helped topple the Qing Regime and ended monarchism.)
I get a sense that in the CCP, you wouldn’t get into any position with actual influence unless your peers and superiors have some leverage on you (they know you’ve done done shady shit which they can expose if you become a nuisance).
So in that way, actually interparty radicalism is curtailed.
Yeah china made the selfish decision to completely ignore the climate change agreements and continue to scale fossil fuel infrastructure.
Both CCP and US Republicans are evil, but republicans are also stupid.
Evil would obviously win against Evil+Stupid
Not that. Because their IP and copyright and patent laws are softer, and also more bendable. In practice those laws don’t matter much.
Now “AI”, surveillance and such are ways to bypass those stricter laws on IP in the west. Technologies exist in some socioeconomic context. A big company doing surveillance and “AI” breaking those laws doesn’t expose that it breaks those laws often, and when it does, it can sustain pressure to get its way.
So the appeal of these technologies is to launder data. Which is, fundamentally, same as perfect obfuscation of executable code. And other such things.
That’s money against right, money wants no reverse engineering, no alternative compatible software, no examination of what their stuff does, and no responsibility for the data used. While in right, of course, examination and compatible tools being possible and verifiable supply chain and so on are basic for industrial civilization.
“A surveillance state is needed to beat china who is evil because it’s a surveillance state”
“we need to win the surveillance state race”
a surveillance megacorp says surveillance is good and needed. cartoonish evil.
Man who is the CEO of a business selling mass surveillance beyond the likes of even George Orwell’s 1984 says we should run head first into a surveillance state from which he will directly profit from.
Breaking News.
Man with vested interest in selling his services, insists buying his services is the only way to save us from the evil foreign menace
If you read his book The Technological Republic, he calls for a « collectivist » ideology and the merger of corporation and state. A few historical examples to choose from would be Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia or Communist China to get an idea of his vision for America’s future.
What? The man who rivals the spying ability of many nations isnt totally on the up and up? Whuda thunkit!
…the 1984 Macintosh commercial…
he calls for a « collectivist » ideology and the merger of corporation and state
Collectivism my ass, neither he nor any of his fellow billionaires will ever relinquish ownership of their companies. They simply want to also own the state and rule like feudal lords.
Boy I wish we as a society would stop reporting on these sociopathic vampires spouting whatever nonsense just popped into their heads
How would you know that they are sociopathic vampires if no one reported on what they believed in?
By the sheer amount of accumulated wealth.
The only important indicator. Everything else is window dressing.
It actually indicates just how much of a sociopath he is, because we’re I that wealthy I’d sure as hell shut the fuck up and enjoy life.
There’s research that shows the process of accumulating so much wealth both selects and creates sociopaths. This is why they’re very overrepresented in the upper class. Sure, not all of them are. Maybe you’d be the exception. I also think I’d be the exception but I’m not too confident. :D
psycopaths, to be able to reach that wealth one needs to have those amoral tendancies, ALSO BEING born into wealth or inhertited alot of wealth (like hundreds of millions or more) helps alot to jumpstart that, because you already entitled from being that rich. theres a reason universities like harvard, stanford breed alot elitist graduates.
Exactly because you’d be the exception there’s almost zero chance you’d ever get to that point. Most people simply don’t have a need to try to become even more wealthy after a certain point.
Like, when all your needs and wants are met, and you still have plenty of money to live that kind of life for the rest of your life, and your family also has enough for a comfortable life… Most people prefer to have less stress, they work less or not at all, or you venture into stuff that maybe makes less money (or none) and you do it for other reasons like altruism or just having fun.
To want to be worth billions takes a completely different character, one that craves as much wealth or power as possible.
In this case we should indeed report on them because it is not much clear to the public what palantir does and they have ties and contracts with the government
The public needs public mass surveillance on CEOs and the top 1% only. They are the top threat to the world
1000% this.
They’re predators, both sexually and economically, and society has let them get away with their plans for far too long.
There is that quick and funny operation that you can do using guilotine (or anything you can get your hands on if you’re creative enough!) that significantly reduce the need for oversight. I agree we should put monitoring around the mass grave in case those ghouls can actually get up. It’s a stretch, but better safe than sorry.
Sure but it’s looking a lot more likely that the mass graves will be for the working class
Actual humans believe life without Palantir is preferable to China winning the AI race.
Well this Palantir the originals can stay, those that were not lost.
True
His head on a pike would be preferrable to both.
Legalise it plz.
I can’t wait to see this guy hanging by his left nut while people take shots at him like a piñata.
its nothing more than a creation of thiel, a soulless puppet animated from various materials.
Ahh yes. The only 2 options
