I remember reading this somewhere years ago. The idea is that Israel will nuke Paris, Berlin, London, etc, in the event that the west cuts off their support and allows it to be defeated by an enemy force.
Is this just a dumbass conspiracy theory, or is there something to it?
i’ve never heard that one, but it smells of “Jewish space laser” to me tbh
Yeah I agree, I mainly posted this to see if anyone else had ever come across this idea
that sounds like neonazi logic too idiotic to even dignify with a rebuttal. israel isn’t holding the west hostage, it is explicitly a project of western imperialism.
What? No. First, the US and Europe will never abandon Israel, so this point is moot.
Second, the US, France and UK have nukes and can retaliate. Instead, Israel is going to nuke the Middle Eastern countries who don’t have nukes. This is why so many of its surrounding countries are extremely hesitant about doing something that might escalate towards an all-out war with Israel. 2 million Palestinian lives is already a lot, but hundreds of millions of lives are also at risk should a nuclear war breaks out in the region.
And Israel is fast losing this strategic advantage because Russia and Iran just signed a full strategic defense pact last year, which means Iran possessing nukes is only a matter of time.
If Israel wants to leverage on its strategic position, it’s now or never.
I’ve heard talk about this for a long time, generally called the Samson option, obviously after the biblical figure. Thing is, it just sounds like a “normal” nuclear deterrence strategy of mutually assured destruction, but I know very, very little about it.
Seymour Hersh has a book about Israel’s nuclear history (called Samson option). I’ve never personally read it, but Hersh is a respected journalist and I’m sure there’s some useful information in it, if you’re interested.
I don’t understand Israel and nukes anyhow. They’re obviously nuclear armed, but also somewhat ambiguous about that fact. So I don’t know how it functions as a deterrent if it’s a secret.
Israel keeps its nuclear weapons secret so that the Dimona reactor can skirt IAEA inspection. It is only open for US inspectors and require advanced notice, which renders the inspection useless because they have time to cover up everything in advance. Basically it’s not letting you know exactly how many nukes they have and obfuscates indications of what they intend to do with their nuclear weapons program.
Didn’t Isreal get a lot of their nuclear program from straight up stealing blueprints from the American program? Think I remember a few of the insane right wingers on twitter making that point before I blocked them all and Elon deleted my account.
this isn’t the same thing as the Samson option, which refers to Israel’s willingness to retaliate against an enemy nation which has attacked it. OP’s scenario is a complete fantasy that he picked up from someone whose brain was about a liter too small for their skull.
The difference between MAD and the Samson option, is that in the former you’re only attacking whoever attacked you, while in the former you’re attacking bystanders that refused to intervene on your behalf.
Seymour Hersh is one of the only true Journalists left that isn’t in hiding, constantly moving, prison or bunkered up somewhere. We would never have learned about the war crimes the U.S. committed in Vietnam if it wasn’t for his reporting on the Mai Lai Massacre, or more recently the Nordstream False Flag.
I’ve heard a variant of this, that the nukes are aimed at every major metropolis in the world so that they’ll bring the entire world down with them
I don’t believe it though, if nukes fly then I think they’ll just use nukes against whatever opponent they have at the time of use, as with other nuclear powers
It’s very unlikely that Israel has enough nuclear warheads or long range delivery platforms to hit very major city on Earth. Nuclear weapons are very expensive to maintain and iirc most of Israeli detergent is submarine based, which in theory means they can hit anywhere on earth given enough time, but in practice means that they only have relatively short ranged missiles and won’t be able to hit any country with a competent ASW net.
I’m pretty sure they’ve admitted they would obliterate all of France if they were to ever be successfully invaded for the obnoxious and pretentious attitudes they’ve displayed
i mean, while it definitely sounds like some dogshit antisemitic myth, it would be the only cool thing the state of israel ever did if it were true
So if europe goes “fuck off Israel, we don’t care if the Palestinians beats your ass, you’re on your own now”, it would be cool if Israel answered with nukes?
What?
It wouldn’t be cool that that was the reason behind it, but nuking Europe is always gonna score some
points.Death to the first world unlimited genocide.
Yeah, let’s hope that they aim for an elementary school just like the US did in Nagasaki
I don’t think modern nukes are “aimed” in any significant sense of the word. With modern satellites and computers, I seriously doubt nuclear missiles have to rely on flight plans that can’t be altered om reasonable notice.
If that’s the case, then it really does come down to who’s got their finger on the button at the time.
Sorry, but r/TrueAnon has gone private, so now this is the only place I can ask weird questions like this lol
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Israel should have those nukes pointed directly at my ass
do it cowards
Obviously bullshit
A bark with no bite, like the US empire would ever let their European investments be trashed for the pride of some racist Russian settlers
I would interpret this as a narrative intended to excuse and explain Europe and the West’s behaviors. It’s a defense against the idea that they’re monstrous colonizers that actually support and agree with Zionism.
It also plays into the “actually those Jews over there control everyone else with tricks and threats” antisemitic canards. These two things work together for Euros and white supremacist liberals.
I will like Israel 2% more if they destroy the UK and France first
