libs on Minnesota Reddit were praising this as some epic pwnage - people rolling things down a hill with anti ice slogans on them, and then this bowling pin lineup of ‘dictators’

what are we, a bunch of… people who effectively resisted U.S hegemony?

(Trump included because he may have just accelerated it’s demise)

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    They cannot even focus their hatred on orange man bad, they MUST sneer at the insidious subhuman east.

    Fucking libs man

    ALSO KIM IS THE LAST NAME YOU RACIST FUCKS!!!

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    This is what substituting materialist analysis with vibes does. It’s false consciouness manifest: in some of the clearest, most radicalizing conditions that you could conceive of for a bunch of Minnesotans, they land at the conclusion that their fight is against the nebulous concept of authoritarian leaders instead of the real material structures that are occupying their cities.

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    It’s american nationalism performed through the use of ritual slagging off of national enemies instead of through the use of worshipping an american flag.

    Republicans perform their nationalism through “America First”

    Democrats perform their nationalism through “Putin/Kim/Xi must be second!”

    This single degree of separation allows dems to convince themselves they’re not nationalists, but are patriots, in reality it’s just two shades of the exact same thing that results in the exact same foreign policy. Imperialism coming home in the form of ICE doing occupations and terror campaigns in cities is a direct result of this nationalist support for imperialism abroad.

    In my opinion the exact moment when a person addresses this nationalism inside themselves is the same moment that a person becomes an anti-imperialist and properly graduates into the international leftist movement.

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    Yet another example that the average imperial core lib is 100% on board with the American empire, they just have an issue with the optics of having trump in charge.

    Fuck me, they could have made the other pins other members of the trump regime/republican party, hell they could’ve labeled one “ICE”, but they have 0 problems with the fact deportations are happening they just want to be able to ignore it

    Edit: and this is ignoring the fact that this “protest” is basically a theme party

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      I don’t think libs dislike most of Trump’s cabinet, or even ICE itself. They pin all the blame on Trump, like an evil mind controlling villain that has “taken over” the good and wholesome republican party and forced their brownshirts to do terrible things against their own will. They see it like a movie, where you get rid of the big bad guy and everything returns to normal.

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        In a way it’s similar to the way Hitler (and a few others) is used to take the blame for everyone that contributed to the Third Reich. Even high ranking generals like Rommel got whitewashed as “good Germans” lenin-dont-laugh

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      was there any doubt that Western Liberals are for US empire? Even Western Socdems are pro-US Empire. The only difference really is just about woke Imperialism, Liberals like using identity politics when they do their bombings, whereas Trump doesn’t bother, he’ll outright say he will steal Venezuela’s oil.

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        “As somebody who trained on weapons of war, I can tell you that there are weapons that have absolutely no place in American cities or neighborhoods in peacetime, ever.” Pete Buttigieg, 2019, on bravely saving his ammo for the people who deserve it, you know, over there

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    I know multiple people have already remarked on this, but it’s amazing to me that these people feel the need to make these pronouncements when they can’t even get given name versus family straight. Like, how much do you really think you understand what’s going on in those countries if you don’t even know which name is a family name? It’s like Ted Cruz calling for regime change in Iran when he doesn’t know how many people are there or what the second largest ethnic group is.

    Do you know what the names on the four obscured pins are?

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      As was pointed out by a few people why would they bother wasting their oh so precious time learning anything about a people they clearly view as subhumans in need of the great guiding hands of the white saviours. Which is honestly extra ironic given they clearly can’t even save themselves.

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    Every single time. America behaves Americanly and the libs are all like “What are we, a bunch of Asians?”

    Every day I agree more and more with that tweet saying that their enemy is the American people.

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    This reminds me of how I’ve had to repeatedly explain why publicly criticizing Maduro and Iran right now is counter-productive to opposing Trump, and would also legitimize American intervention, which has historically gone poorly. Some people just don’t really dig/think any deeper than “West says dictator, dictator bad, only politics other than vote is basic protest”.

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    Even if you’re a liberal, this is poor political messaging. Why are you bringing up other world leaders? It just distracts from the point you want to make;

    We want Trump out! Why? He sent ICE and the military into our city, abducted and killed people

    Clear and to the point.

    This on the other hand is just… what if no bad government everywhere. Nice sounding (if you don’t scrutinize all the assumptions and biases), but also unactionable. Empty spectacle, but not even particularly well stage-managed spectacle.