More than a dozen food companies have urged the European Commission not to ban the use of words such as “sausage” and “burger” for non-meat products.
That’s fucking stupid. Sausage can be anything ordinary sausage proves this.
The whole point of sausages existing is lack of meat
Remembering that person who bought a “soy chorizo” on accident because they read the label as a sentence.
spoiler
“I’m a sausage.”
They should call it “chorisoya” to avoid confusion. It sounds almost the same anyway and is kind of a neat name.
As idiotic calling that thing sausage is, I guess we have bigger problems than spending time on saying what can be called sausage and what can’t.
The problem with being more permissive with naming is that the realistic outcome is simply gonna be that companies take the chance to deliver cheaper quality at the expense of the consumer.
Like, if the requirement that milk actually has to be cow milk is loosened, what’s stopping the companies from just mixing the cow milk with water and selling that as “milk”?
If law wasn’t decided by a complicated system of books and men wearing tunics but by popular democracy, it would be obvious and would need no technicality that watering down milk would be illegal and selling almond milk as almond milk would be legal.
what if the almond milk is watered down?
i’m asking because it almost always is
Random experts are chosen to weigh in, comparing the nutritional values of other almond milks
No one is planning to loosen any current rules, this is about a new law, that would ban names like soy milk.
At least in Germany, even without the new ban, it was not allowed to call anything but cow milk simply “milk” without any prefix, and what you can add to cow milk is already regulated (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milch-_und_Fettgesetz). Is it different where you live and currently milk is often watered down?
I wish I could build a time machine and put it in operation as a shuttle service, so that people from the future in business attire, with suitcases full of money, could enter parliament lobbies, party centrals and regulatory agencies. We would have far less problems with necessary change.
change creates its own problems though, just like a necessary re-construction of an old building will create a lot of noise. so you gotta find a balance
I think the rules should be even stricter. An Hamburger should only be made in Hamburg, otherwise it’s a Minced Corpse Patty.
It should actually be called Cow Mince. We have Pork Chops, Lamb Chops, they should use Cow as well.
Shouldn’t it be Beef Mince then?
Otherwise we’d have Pig Chops right?
That’s a very metal name ! 🤟
Fucking metal. I’m in.
Found the vegan!
/s ?
Their use of corpse. Generally vegans go this route. The idea is to make the food slightly less palatable and to cause thought about where meat comes from and the horrors some animals face.
But sometimes it’s just funny and makes meat sound more metal.
Listen, I’m not a vegan, but I find this names that are bent around the bush so annoying.
Yeah, I get it , it’s not literally milk. But calling it “almond milk” is waaay smoother than “almond drink” or “almond concoction” or whatever.
Same with Malzbier.
“Creamy nut juice” just didn’t do very well in the test marketing
The problem i have is just that i walk into a store, buy some cheese for my cheese toast, then later at home discover it’s not “cheese” but some disgusting mixture of plant oils and flavour agents that makes me want to vomit and throw up.
The problem is not vegan products existing, but them deceiving and tricking the ordinary person about what they are with no clear labeling. It simply has to be explicit that it is not what a normal person thinks when they read “cheese”, but some other experimental food instead.
That’s BS and you know it is, stop lying and you’ll feel less hollow inside.
that’s not true. you’re claiming to know me better than i know myself. what hybris
The definition of milk literally includes plant milks. Milk has been used to describe these beverages for as long as they have existed.
I agree, but that’s not what the marketing law in Germany says. Not long ago, it was changed by conservatives to only include real cow’s milk.
What makes it even stupider is that everyone still calls it soy- or whatever-milk.
What a bunch of snowflakes. Imagine that being the biggest problem in your life.
They just want the sweet sweet money from farmers
it doesn’t have to be the biggest problem in your life to take it seriously
I have seen coconut milk sold as ‘coconut drink’, even though it is not used as drink. That is stupid.
In the case of coconut there’s both the milk and the water, and coconut drink is likely the water.
It was the milk, though.
So much for my hypothesis.
i argue calling it coconut drink is stupid, because in the specific case of coconuts you should specify milk or water.
But calling it “almond milk” is waaay smoother than “almond drink” or “almond concoction”
By having to give it a weird name those products and the sustainability argument behind it get associated with weirdness, and are less appealing to people who might otherwise consider trying them.
I couldn’t care less what you call them. You can call them vegetable dicks and I would still eat them. It’s just a ridiculous waste of resources powered by the meat lobby who have seen a portion of their market share disappear.
I’m a happy meat eater and considering the number of different kinds of sausage with all different ingredients in different proportions and different textures and different herbs and spices and different skins and different sizes and different ways to prepare them I think this is absolutely ridiculous.
If tiny dried sausages with lamb and herbs in natural skin are just as much sausage as spiced up raw mince in a plastic skin are just as much sausage as precooked hot dogs with pork and salt but mostly potato filler in mysterious edible non natural skin, then a sausage with vegetable mash for filling is definitely a sausage as well.
Do hot dogs legally qualify as sausages in the EU?
I don’t know. We all have different words for “sausage” and different cultural attachments to them.
In Swedish, the word for sausage, “korv” is widely used (albeit informally) as a word describing the shape, and not necssesarily the product.
Hot dogs are in the section of sausages at least, but the meat % is almost always on the front of the packages. Which for “hot dogs” is ~34%. I don’t know who buys them. Personally I go for the 70+
Yeah sausage is at least in my eyes a form of food. Kinda like a loaf of bread can be different types of bread so can a sausage be different meat (or not even meat at all).
I hate that a sausage comes from a “food company” instead of a butcher. (Or grocer for vegan sausage)
So, food companies, just how much actual meat is there in your sausages and what animal parts are you using?
Ngl the difference between a local butchers farm sausages & mass produced meat tubes is huge.
If it’s ground up and tubed into a thin, edible casing skin, it’s a sausage.
The German emperor’s last chancellor Bismarck, who was decently leaning on the conservative side, said famously that there are two things where you really don’t want to know how they are made: Politics and sausages.
“Die Gedanken einer Frau,
der Magen einer Sau
und der Inhalt einer Wurst,
bleiben ewig unerforscht.”Translation:
The thoughts of a woman,
the stomach of a pig
and the content of a sausage, will be forever unexplored.
“Ground up dead body of an animal fisted into another animals anal canal”
I mean we can just call it what it is
Sausages can be called “links”. Burgers can be called “patties”. The only people pissed about Soy Milk, Vegan Burgers and Veggie Sausages are the corporations who sell meat exclusively, and the people who don’t read food packaging. Smart vegan & vegetarians know that you need to read the ingredients before you buy that product. I always make sure I go home with the right wiener.
There’s definitely some bad actors in food packaging, though. In some countries, it’s insane how hard it is to differentiate between butter and some non-dairy spread at the grocery.
I can’t believe it’s not butter!
I can’t believe that I’m lying when I don’t say it’s not true that this isn’t non-butter!
I take it a step further, I don’t just make sure that I take the right weiner home, I inspect it before I put it in my mouth. and especially give it a sniff test.
Food safety is always a plus. :)
The other day i tried to buy an oat drink, for my coffee. I usually have a favourite brand, but i don’t care as much. It didn’t have any that i recognized, but damn the one i bought, i had to read really closely what kind of “milk” it was.
Sooo. There’s a word.
Kackwurst, die
Grammatik
Substantiv (Femininum)- Genitiv Singular: Kackwurst
- Nominativ Plural: Kackwürste
Aussprache
[ˈkakvʊʁst]Worttrennung
Kack-wurstClearly, this may be, or may not be a meat product. If they want to regulate something so so far, they must go all the way!
Are kackwursts vegetarian? Secreted products are, but excreted?
