I like Nelix plotlines.
Neelix is what happens when producers want to force another Quark.
I think he could act, but that’s the only part I disagree with.
Neelix is a subdued, cerebral character compared to what I’ve seen from the Starfleet Academy show’s trailer.
Besides, it’s called a mess hall for a reason.
The thing about Voyager is all the characters kinda suck but all the actors portraying them were pretty fucking great. Excellent cast; film school writing.
Howling Mad Murdock’s character didn’t suck.
HOW DARE YOU SAY THIS ABOUT NEELIX
Tom Paris is the worst character on Voyager, fight me.
If you took a spoiled 6 year old from the 1950’s and suddenly turned him into an adult, that child would be Tom Paris. He’s overly childish, and not in a cute way. He character has practically zero depth. He’s like Wesley Crusher if Wesley was an idiot.
“Yes mam.”
The thing i do like about tom, is that hes a pilot, and wants to be a pilot. Making a hot rod shuttle, building old muscle cars on the holodeck. Wanting to enter a star race… just wants to go fast.
Only near the end of the Voyager game did I realise there was a tab for tom paris logs, I’d gone the whole game missing them. What a pleasant discovery that was.
tom paris is imo easily the most forgettable character amongst the main cast
Only because Neelix and Harry are so fucking annoying, they’re impossible to forget.
Not while Chakotay exists.
“if” doing a lot of heavy lifting there
He’s also responsible for all the awful Captain Proton episodes that I always skip.
Yep, that’s one of the main reasons I compare him to a 6 year old from the 1950’s.
Tom Paris is the kind of character that would sleep in a racecar bed and think it made him cool.
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Tom Paris was a pseudonym. His real name was Nick Lacarno and he got kicked out of the academy while Westley Crusher was there.
Like Boimler, I don’t see the resemblance between the two.
EDIT: Posted too soon as I see someone else made basically this same joke below. Leaving it here as both a testament to my unoriginality and to save everyone from thinking that God deleted my comment
A pseudonym cleverly concocted to avoid paying royalties to Naren Shankar, the writer of TNG 5x19: The First Duty, who was let go after TNG finished its run.
Lower decks squashed that theory.
That’s like saying Brunt of the FCA and Weayun are the same person.
…new headcanon unlocked.
Look, Lower Decks might have featured another person with the same name as Nick Lacarno, but that guy looked completely different, so it was obviously a new character.
Lower decks is barely canon, much like Clerks was barely a movie.
/s
Yeah it’s like they were going to give him a strong character arc by showing him growing up side by side with Harry Kim… But then the writers forgot to actually grow their characters. So they’re just children the whole time.
Wesley Crush is already really shallow character like the rest of tng
Oh come on! Not a compelling story? He’s a space scavenger, his people are nomadic because OF GENOCIDE, who are wandering space in search of a new home.
He’s an ex-soldier, ex-criminal, who can’t quite come to terms with his past because he wants to be morally and ethically good, he has SEVERE “people pleaser” issues and tries to be everyone’s friend - BUT is not so weak that he can’t fight or stand up for himself or his friends. He’s multi talented, but doesn’t always know when to reign it in and he serves as a motivational character for the Voyager crew who are lost in space – and actually does a good job of it!!
This is the character of our generation. Wtf do you mean “not a compelling story”?
Bad acting? Actually agree, but you can also say that it’s the mannerisms of his people, because it seems to be a mainstay that they are all sort of “whimsical forest creatures” - for lack of better terms - which could be a writeoff in terms of acting.
But Neelix is just so endearing to me. To see how Tuvok struggles to understand him or even accept him - being the “LoGiCaL VuLCaN” that he is - is just one of those Star Trek duos that’s up there with Bashir and Garek, Kirk and Spock, etc.
He might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but a bad character, bad story? That’s boulderdash. Now cut a little jig and make a pot of space weavels - bring some light into your friends life, you low energy having, negative nancy ass bastards.
Be like Neelix.
But he is so goddamn unbelievably annoying.
I wouldn’t say it’s bad acting? It seems right in line with an anxious people-pleaser who doesn’t know when to quit. I thought he was spot on.
Balderdash* no boulders were harmed.
Bashir and Garek, Kirk and Spock
How about Quark and Odo? I love both of these stick-in-the-mud cop vs lovable rogue duos!
Quark and Odo <3
There’s so much comedy in the Quark/Odo relationship that’s played perfectly and isn’t at the expense of either of the characters.
The uptight lawman/morally good criminal will-they-wont-they frenemyship is one of my favorite dynamics in the show and is up there with Garak/Bashir or even La Forge/Data.
Still no
“bitches”, is what I assume is the end of that sentence. You bring shame to Jonathan Frakes.
Fuck that. Neelix was the heart of Voyager. Someone had to remind them to live on their way back to their lives.
Straight up. I love my weird little Adderall-fueled space Hobbit. He rocks. And that episode where he dies and then worries about the afterlife? One of my favorites during my first run!
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Nah, all those dancing swimsuit ladies are of legal age.
Edit: also this, meant only as a jest 🖖 :
I know you don’t really mean that, Mr. Vulcan!
Tuvok would never admit it but they’re secretly besties.
Tuvok danced for him on the last episode
Neelix is awesome.
I feel like the more ridiculous a neelix plotline, the better. Cheese premise all the way. Could have gone further with it tho. Maybe the cheese bacteria become horrendously infectious and produce a disgusting disease that incapacitates the crew. Bring that shit into DS9 Ferengi or TNG Q episodes of goof level wackery. I feel like his character was intended to fill a similar niche but they never made him into the chaos goblin he should have been.
I didn’t know that Ethan Phillips did that performance while being effectively blind and deaf. Impressive!
Neelix is immune to the cheese infection of course because he’s been eating his own experiments for a while and we get a Neelix-Doctor teamup to save people from the disease. But not before most of the crew turns into an infection vomiting mess of cheese zombies. Neelix gets to show expertise and care in the recovery of his crewmates, as well as regret/pathos for wielding his dangerous culinary powers with abandon
Voyager cultivates the bio-neural cheese, making the smartest and most delicious cheese in the Delta Quadrant.
Cheese sales used for diplomacy, barter, and bribes. All Delta Quadrant species like this cheese.
Janeway, recognizing the power of the cheese to get home quickly, looks at a nutrient rich nebula in wonder saying “There’s cheese in that nebula!”
Bio-neural cheese easily defeats borg nanos in one-on-one nano deathmatches. Whole borg cubes left disconnected and smelling of cheese.
Neelix makes a fondue that becomes sentient for a few days. Janeway establishes diplomatic relations with the cheese. Neelix is now the ambassador of cheese.
Voyager gets home in 3 years, with borg defeated. Multiple successful diplomatic first contacts, and trade deals. Dramatic increase in all cheese related technology, and basic civil cheese rights across the Federation.
Now I’m imagining if they had somehow managed to cast Robin Williams (RIP) as Neelix!
In another timeline we would have had Robert Picardo as Neelix. That’s the role he initially auditioned for!
Holy shit, I was imagining Robert Beltran at first, and nearly died.
Robert Picardo ended up exactly where he was needed.
“Please state the nature of the acting emergency.”
Robert Picardo even says this
Yup! He was only familiar with TOS and assumed the Spock-type role would go to Tuvok (not an unfair assumption to make).
He should have played Picard.
Ah yes, Captain Robert Picard.
I want a version where he plays Neelix but his character is otherwise unchanged
Please state the nature of the culinary emergency
Hah, reminds me of the time Bender tried to become a cook on Futurama.
“There was nothing wrong with that food. The salt level was 10% less than a lethal dose.”
“Uh oh, I shouldn’t have had seconds!”
Am I the only one who appreciates Ethan Phillips and acting the way he was written?
I’m not a fan of Neelix, but I don’t think what was wrong with him was necessarily Ethan Phillips’ fault.
He was in a short lived show called Avenue 5 which I can only describe as “The Love Boat” in space. And he was hilarious! https://youtu.be/CUVFAgwdfEQ
Avenue 5 was taken from us too soon. I’m just glad that we got to see douchey-Josh-Gad sorta reprise his role in Wonder Man.
He was also briefly in the Alec Baldwin film The Shadow. I was rewatching it recently and was like “No, Neelix! Don’t do it!”
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