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Why would having it be in a vest be useful, so it’s concealed until you’re really close? Like, it’s a fucking nuke, it’s not like you need to get in particularly close for it to have the intended effect.
Like, he’s just mashing the image of a suicide bomber in with the fear of nukes to strike as many “panic! danger! scary!” notes as possible.
A tactical nuke within a nuclear bunker could be useful if you wanted to target people important enough to be in that bunker? Perhaps he had the thought of doing such…
so would any explosive device, or chemical agent, or two smaller assassins in a trench coat. If they do go the nuke vest route, I hope they put a bunch of light graphics on it to be really edge lord and scary with it
Maybe JD wants a nuclear death though.
he wants to be able to visit the local gloryholes whenever he wants and not be judged by which side he is on
Normally I get angry at these pathological liars but this lie is so absurdly stupid that it’s actually funny.
Imagine someone driving their van to a parking lot near the white house and then going “Welp, better strap on my suicide nuke that will obliterate the entire city. I see no other way of doing this.”
I mean, people do strap on conventional explosive vests and set them off in crowds. That is not the absurd part.
I think their point is that the van was a much easier storage vessel, with room and penetration power. Getting out of the van and walking 30 feet has miniscule change on the effects of a munition that’s blast radius and fallout are so large.
The entire idea of a vest/backpack/portable device would be more so you can get behind enemy lines by say parachute or such. Although there is no point of a parachute as you don’t need to cushion your fall, and no need of the person if someone was already letting you leave said flying device.
Ah, I missed that point.
That’s because thats the only way it can work with low power explosives slapped together by some group with limited resources.
Maybe a dirty bomb with nuclear materials, but an actual fission bomb on a vest? No. Never mind they don’t have the enriched fuel, never mind just building a working device would be extremely difficult for them and that would be large like the Hiroshima bomb.
This is Iraq Weapons of Mass Distraction all over again. Fuck this administration.
It is actually possible, though it would stretch the definition of “vest.” It’s not something that can really fit on a vest, but I suppose you could hide it in a fat suit, a wheelchair, or a fake pregnancy belly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W54
The W54 was a 1 kiloton bomb that weighed a bit over 50 lbs. It was built to be a man-portable demolition charge. It’s certainly possible for something like that to be built in a way that could be concealed on your person.
I love how inconspicuous it is:
Like something from Looney Tunes.
Yeah. I’m imagining a suicide bomber wearing a huge fat suit like Mike Myers wore when played Fat Bastard. Just a giant fake belly with a literal nuclear bomb concealed inside.
Though really, I think the real problem with a “nuclear suicide vest” is simple practicality. Like, what’s the actual point? The whole point of a suicide vest is to be able to smuggle explosives into an area where they’ll do the most damage. A guy holding a bomb in his hands won’t be let into a crowded bus. Someone holding a pipe bomb is going to cause people to run away from them screaming. A suicide vest bomber seeks to sneak into a crowded space densely packed with many people. Suicide bombers need to get close to large numbers of people. They need a bomb that can be concealed on their person. Otherwise they end up doing no more damage than someone could with a handgun.
But a nuke? You don’t need to sneak the nuke into the stadium. You set it off five blocks away. It doesn’t need to be concealed. If you want to deliver a terrorist nuking, you would instead load it on the back of a truck with heavy radiation shielding. You don’t try to sneak it in to a crowded location. You just try to drive it into a dense urban area or near a critical piece of infrastructure and hope to not set off any radiation detectors along the way. A nuclear truck bomb is a reasonable fear. A nuclear suicide vest is laughable.
It could fit into a suitcase, no?
Hey sexy! Is that a rocket in your poc…holy shit! That’s a godamn big whatever it is!
IT’S JUST A BACKPACK.
It’s not something that can really fit on a vest, but I suppose you could hide it in a fat suit, a wheelchair, or a fake pregnancy belly.
Maybe that’s why people keep backing away from Trump. It’s not incontinence, it’s their dosimeter badges.
They cannot build a W54. This would be an early prototype device and that would not fit on a vest. Iran only has enriched uranium, not plutonium (according to news reports). It takes a great deal more uranium than plutonium to build a bomb. About 65ish kilos of +90% enriched for a uranium bomb.
The W54 is a shaped charge implosion device. To build a W54, they’d need plutonium. And the trigger to detonate shaped charges at the right time in the right order. Plus, they need a neutron moderator to limit criticality so it doesn’t detonate with the full potential of the nuclear material. This is all well beyond Iran’s capabilities.
Russia could do it though. Probably China too. North Korea? I think not.
Gun-type nukes are relatively easy to make and can be pretty compact. The hard part is getting the plutonium
I’m not a nuclear weapons designer, I’ve just read some books. But my understanding is that shaped charge implosion is better for Pu designs. It does require much less material to reach criticality. Maybe 8-9kg? vs 65kg for a U device. But I don’t think Iran has been refining Pu, just U.
American civilians killed by Iran made nuclear slingshots and slippping on nuclear banana peels.
Won’t be so funny when you fall and split your pants (nuclear-style).
I will fall face first into a nuclear cream pie
Every nuke can be considered a suicide bomb. Ffs get this guy out of any kind of position making decisions.
“Vance says” is like when my 3-year-old blames everything on the cat. Who ate all the nesquik Jonathan, was it the cat, or was it you with nesquik on your face? Who can say.
No, see, a raccoon busted in here. He said, he said to me, “that nesquik is mine, Jonathan”, he said, and then he ate it all, didn’t even mix it with the milk, just ate it powdered, then the raccoon smeared some on me and said, “Jonathan, this is now your fault mwahaha” and ran off!
The demonic ritual of human sacrifice
Cats and coyotes?
Thats…not how nuclear arms work.
Isn’t the smallest effective nuke the Davy Crocket? Pretty sure it’s warhead is still the size of a large hardcase suitcase.
If the US is saying Iran could do it, the US has probably already figured it out. Fallout is getting to be too damn real
Correction an Appalachian born yuppie with no technical knowledge claims they could do it. Unless Vance got bored and went through data on the nuclear arsenal then it’s probably a safe bet that he’s making shit up. Tactical nukes are a thing and backpack nukes are somewhat possible by an army definition of portable, but a nuclear suicide vest is just fucking asanine. Frankly speaking given the general purge of everyone with competency and the general ratfucked nature of these waste of biological matter I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that the nuclear arsenal isn’t even fully understood anymore because everyone competent was fired or fucked off.
SADM. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Atomic_Demolition_Munition
the M388 looks small because you’re used to seeing normal recoilless rifles, not the mongo m29 one used to propel the M388 warhead on the Crocket…
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/weapons/davy-crockett-weapon-system.html it’s certainly still ‘small’ for a nuke, but iirc the sadm is smaller.
Isn’t that from the 1950s? Maybe top secret tech has progressed since then.
It’s from the 50s but as I understand it nukes as we have them now require certain physical properties and dimensions to work with that being about as small as you can get. Anything smaller and the reaction either fizzles out, you get a dirty bomb, or the explosive yield is worse than traditional explosives of equivalent size. To make it any smaller you’d need a fusion bomb most likely.
You’d still need a fission bomb, to initiate the fusion reaction.
Probably, though as I noted the problem with such small nuclear arms isn’t their capacity but moreso their efficiency and consistency. A fusion bomb could help to amplify at least the capacity for destruction, assuming it can’t be circumnavigated through some technological fuckery, frankly I don’t think anyone can comment on fusion bombs with any degree of accuracy given that we haven’t figured out sustained fusion reactors.
You need a critical mass of material to initiate an explosion. So there is a limit to how small you can get with them. That critical mass in not including all of the other gear they need attached to get it to explode.
It would be a nuclear chest
Right? Nuclear arms are supposed to be on arm sleeves, not vests.
He should make one and demonstrate how it would work.
When will this lying sack of shit starting painting his face orange?
His tongue is already stained orange
That was an image I definitely didn’t need
Well done, it takes a lot to make me gag
A new American tradition: all incoming Presidents must paint their entire body orange
Nah, not their entire body, that would look too natural
I heard they’re developing a new Shahed bomb that can blow up a church and rebuild it into a mosque.
JD Vance also claims he’s capable of pleasing his wife.
*couch
He can’t even do that
The only way he pleases his wife is by leaving.
at this point, he’s just my mom’s facebook news feed in human form.
… and unfortunately it’s working.
The US is incentivizing Iran to make nukes.
If there’s one thing that nations have learned about dealing with the U.S. it’s that nukes keep you safe. Nobody is threatening to put “boots on the ground” in North Korea
“Please make nukes pretty please? We can’t explain this war to our people without you making nukes…”
Just Dumb fails to acknowledge the fucked up US healthcare system is deadlier to Americans than the stupid shit that developed in the vacuum between his ears.
