He is not satisfied destroying education in the just US.
regardless of what anyone might think of Iran, this is evil
What anyone thinks of Iran should pale in comparison to what they think of the US. Truly the most evil nation since Nazi Germany.
did you forget Russia exists? or China?
Both are bad, neither is worse than the US.
Just going by invasions and regime changes alone the US takes the cake. That’s before you get into the spreading crack into black communities, chemical weapons on civilians, drone strikes on children, ecological destruction, genocide enabling, etc etc.
i hate defending the US because it has had more direct bad impact on my life but by measure of lost life i’d still argue modern Russia is worse, and if we lump current China to not even that long ago China the numbers killed are not even close
the scale of China’s population just blows it all out of proportion
Nazi Germany wasn’t even the worst genocide of its time (what a putrid statement though true)
by measure of lost life i’d still argue modern Russia is worse
Idk what lost life you’re counting, because it’s pretty well known that civilian casualties in just the Iraq war most likely dwarf Ukrainian losses.
ffs google, it is painful when i can tell people are not even trying and just mad at the US
i get it i do, US is doing bad shit but it’s obvious you’re not even trying to look
Oh indeed thanks for telling me that I need to google your vague and in no way clarified idea of what Russia is doing, when I can read goddamn Russian language itself and have been reading independent Russian-language opposition media covering Russian reality for ages, and know a whole lot more about it than you do.
50+million chinese people and the ughyger genocide people would like to have a word with you. looks like .ML have come in droves to defend CCP/and russian genocide, must be nice to support that. Also white genocide isnt a thing, you racist.
huh? write out your point like I’m 5 because it sounds like we agree and i’m confused
Do you condemn Wihthe genocide?
Learn to spell
By numbers US is probably worse but the level of cruelty from Russia is unmatched outside of terrorist organizations
Would it really be tho?
Like the US targets children and social gatherings to attack, tortures/rapes/murders innocent civilians in black sites, keeps a racial based underclass who they hook on drugs, violently assault from childhood, and lock up in record numbers to serve as legal slave labour. That’s pretty fucking cruel stuff.
Also invades small countries on whim, votes against the well-being of humankind, meddle in other countries’ affairs, has been in war for more than 90% of it’s existence, never held itself accountable, experiments on its own citizens, and is ruled by a cabal of paedophiles.
All true but I never seen videos o people being killed by sledgehammer to the head or castrated in cold blood with a blunt knife coming from the US.
You mean the two countries tied for 3rd place in the most evil country competition?
recency bias and the US outsized reputation makes it seem that I’m sure but lol if you think this is true
we’re just more free to complain about it, probably not for much longer though
so if you think it’s bad now buckle up and I say this as a generational casualty of US colonialism
Its not receny bias. The US didnt just turn evil in Jan 2025.
How are are all those black prisoners working in privatised prisons doing by the way?
China has 4 times the population as the US, yet the US still has the largest prison population on Earth.
Slavery never ended in america.
Land of the free my hole. Its literally the least free country on the planet.
who said anything about 2025? even if you want to peg the US evil starting with Nixon (which isn’t perfectly true as we were war profiteering in ww1/2) that’s recent, the US is a baby nation
now you’re just throwing strawman arguments, I don’t support any of this shit the US is currently doing, it’s just stupid to think China hasn’t done worse in the last century, isn’t doing equally evil shit now
not to get all tankie on you, but China has thus far managed to restrain themselves from bombing other countries’ civilian populations.
dude spend two min googling ‘Chinese atrocities from 1900’
like again I really don’t want to frame this like the US is the good guy, the US is not, but as a matter of scale currently China is still worse
China has been worse than Nazi Germany
all that said, US is trying real hard to be #1 in something again so yay!
fuck I hate this
dude spend two min googling ‘Chinese atrocities from 1900’
Ok, I did that exact thing verbatim, and the entire first page of results are things that happened before anyone here was born.
I’m not about to claim they’re saintly in any way, for sure they have lots of well-documented internal issues with civil liberties, free speech, and oppression of minority groups, but the fact that you’re going so far into the past to make your case just makes it a case in support of the opposite view.
recency bias, there are people still alive that were directly impacted
but thank you for actually reading about it
but yes the US is bad, i’m not defending it
but sure as fuck China doesn’t get to hand wave the past away
and not all of their evils have stopped
they’re just not being currently ran by an orange buffoon
the US had evil shit going on under Obama and yet the world image of the US was much better then
Do explain how China has been worse than Nazi Germany, sounds like delusion.
i’m not going to repeat myself it’s in the last post
You didn’t explain anything anywhere though?
Downplaying the genocide carried out by the nazis is actually sickening, and i’m sick of people whitewashing them.
israel hae to make sure they weren’t out evillled (?) be iran
also following PUTINS lead, considering this was the pretext of lifting sanctions russian oil.
Israel is the enemy of all humanity. Earth will not be in peace until these religious lunatics are destroyed.
Including the ones in the whitehouse
Primarily the ones there. Hegseth thinks he is starting a crusade to bring about Armageddon.
Add Saudi Arabia, they were in on Iraq and they placed Iran in their crosshairs.
More UAE than Saudi, but yes. MBZ is an Israeli puppy, MBS is just a moron.
All they are doing is creating generations of future enemies.
one thousand new hamas’es, so they can continue to have someone to point to while they do their genocides
They don’t need hamas to commit genocide. See e.g. the west bank. They will find an excuse anyway, at least hamas actually puts up a resistance.
Bold of you to assume the US and Israel will last generations in their current forms.
The Nazis didn’t create generations of future enemies for Germany.
No country lasts generations in a static form. That’s not a thing.
which is why authoritarians in thier last grasp of power, is trying everything to distract thier own population, and others from an internal uprising.
but they will be poor and potentially malnutrition and potentially civil warring for the foreseeable future.
At least that seems to be the hope
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Why on earth would they not want death to the west? It’s not like we haven’t deserved it. Israel is way more extreme than either Hamas or Hezbollah. That’s what happens when you create an ethnostate, arm them to the teeth, and back them unconditionally for generations.
I take some slogans everyday instead of death and destruction.
Good way to ensure that whatever regime rises from the ashes will be even more backwards than the last.
I mean, that is their goal.
If anything, I think this will motivate the government to build even more.
I remember them saying and acting like Iraq was always a place of poor literacy, conflict, and poverty and a stone age culture.
Without ever acknowledging that this was basically the point (which many said in the lead up to the war in 2002) of the Iraq war.
They also bombed the largest factory producing anti-cancer drugs and other medical facilities.
More than 600 schools have also been hit.
The USSA is as bad as the Shitraeli genociders.
Absolute monsters.I mean they already killed their own.
Also the USA
Why does everyone hate us? We are good people, nice people, nobody should hate us!
Hate the government and the people who support it, not all Americans!
This is the way
Americans have been supporting this kind of shit for decades, they’re all complicit at this point.
Yes, all people born into oppressive regimes that are often racistly holding them down are complicit. By that logic, the victims of apartheid states deserve it?
There haven’t been any coups. No one has taken power by force (not since they genocided the native civilizations, at least). A vast majority of Americans have voted time and time again, for decades, for this shit, and will keep doing so if there are any elections after Taarump.
Egoism, racism, imperialism, murder, child abuse, and runaway untethered capitalism are core American values. Basic principles upon which their culture is built. Don’t compare them to actual victims. They reap what they sow.
I’m trying to understand the logical conclusion of your viewpoint. Do you believe even the victims of racial oppression, often also in the form of voter suppression, are responsible for all the crimes past and present of the country they found themselves trapped in?
Are you also personally responsible for any reprehensible behavior the country you were born in has committed, past or present?
I’m responsible for the actions of the governments I vote for, and those of the governments I don’t rebel against. As are American citizens.
Many of the victims of racial oppression in the USA had no problem voting for Trump, or previous criminals who held offices in their government. I’m sure most of them happily voted for Obama, another mass murderer like the majority of US presidents in history.
Because as all Americans they share those rotten core values, and will happily vote for anyone who’ll act like a bully and harm the weak, ignoring that he’ll also hurt them.
Everyone means your leaders, not you. I think.
We totally never hurt anyone or ever intended yo hurt any.
Oh god who let .ml and hexbear into these comments
Muting those instances made Lemmy a lot more pleasant. Highly recommended
How to do that?
In your account settings there’s an option to block and mute instances and communities
And thus, debate is dead, and your cozy bubble is formed. I get banning troll users, but banning a whole instance is a step towards killing what the federation is supposed to stand for.
Those extremists are not here to debate. They are here to push propaganda. Why would you want to engage with someone who isn’t arguing in good faith?
There’s a difference between debating and toxic fascism
That’s no debate with insincerity, only a platform for lies.
Can’t debate a bot.
I get what you’re saying, but there is no objective defence for what is Russia doing in Europe. Anyone who sides with Russia or defends Russia either has personal interests in it, or the person is so easily brainwashed they’re more dangerous than LLMs
These people want no debates or opinions they dont agree with… They cant stand it.
They want that bubble because it makes sense to them. The world becomes simple.
Do you even know what you’re talking about?
Nope, it’s the best decision I made. I don’t want to debate extremists that start insulting me as soon as a I don’t agree with all of their takes.
And btw at least with my client/instance, banning an instance doesn’t ban the users, so you can still interact with them on other instances.
Edit: And I don’t want to generalise, I’m sure there are .ml users that are fine. But I’ve had enough bad interactions with them that it warrants an instance ban.
the only other .ml that isnt politicals just engage in tech content like they are supposed to. somehow tankies co-opted .ml as a political haven, might have something to do with a tankie developer though.
they can smell russia/china criticism and they come like rabid dogs.
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Nah legit, the anti-tankie brigade puts out their delusion before the tankies even show… every time
The United States of ISISrael
Its a war of extermination.
Yes but some of them chanted Death to America – completely uncalled for – so what goes around comes around
Those chants were pretty epic. Also they have some nice anti-USA murals like this one:
Gotta admit that mural is pretty fire.
مرك بر آمريكا - “mrk br amrika”
anybody knows what it means?
Marg bar Âmrikâ - It’s a declaration of their love towards Amerikkka
Completely uncalled for
Someone doesn’t know a lick of history.
It appears that sarcasm doesn’t translate well to text, even with aggressive use of emdashes and italics
Ideas are more powerful than weapons. They don’t want their enemies to have weapons, why would they allow them to have ideas?
O.K. call me super nieve but and I mean a HUGE BUT, what if it became an actual working democracy? I know it sounds absolutely coo coo insane-o-style but a democracy with rules for the almost but not quite equal capitalism we once had. A regulated capitalism that doesn’t squash indevidual , independent voice. Or smother it with Hush money.
You are probably not aware that in the 1950 they were on a good way and the usa and britain overthrew their elected government and installed the radical regime because democratic Iran wanted to sell their oil by themselves? (Very shortend version, please search for details and nuances by yourself)
This implies that the radical regime somehow was more conducive to US interests and did not in turn want to “sell their oil by themselves” too, which is… doubtful. Had that been the case things would have turned out differently.
Yeah the US shouldnt be there but neither should the ayatollah and the council of clerics.
Yes, the US will bomb them into a functional democracy.
I’ll have what this guy is smoking, holy shit
I’m not sure if you are being sarcastic, but democracy and capitalism are fundamentally incompatible. “Equal capitalism” is an oxymoron.
They said “almost” and would be accurate in that sense of using the same means just applied, explosives, to reach the speed of light, as material.
iran was a democracy prior to the SHAH which was installed by the UK/US. the islamic revolution /current regime is more or less US’s fault.
You’re just hoping for Iran to develop a better functioning democracy than the US after it was “bombed back to the stone ages”?
That IS super nieve.
Such ideal popular democracies generally need a culture conducive to those. Not all cultures favor democratic politics.
