I’m sorry if this breaks a rule for this sub or isn’t in the right place.
I really don’t know, most of the time I just lurk. I had an alt on Hexbear because they get defederated all the time, and I really enjoy their content, but it got banned because I called out Nazi propaganda about Ukraine(It’s why I was banned. I’m not trying to talk politics I would like to focus on Lemmy), and I’m just very confused. The rules they referenced for the ban seem to barely apply to what I said, and in general, the server seemed like a cool place to be. I definitely felt like I was in a community where I belonged.
I’m just boggled and could really use some hand-holding on this one. In general, the rules of the Lemmyverse confuse me. I want to see everything, but the places I like most are usually defederated from the larger communities.
If this isn’t right please please, just point me to where I can ask.Thanks!

OP of the original thread is being vague about what they were banned for.
They seem to have had a crash out where they were accusing other users of being Russian/Chinese shills.
Acting all mystified about why they got banned when they were having fights in 5 different threads and nobody agreed with them.
Every place has community norms and its on a newcomer to observe them. Break them if you want, but you rin the risk of being banned. Ain’t a place in the world not like this
Every time
In this thread: @Cowbee@hexbear.net holds up half the sky

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a bunch of liberals with communist pretensions, thanks for asking
except for me of course, I’m the one true leftist

Though, dbzer0 has been overtaken by Tankies as well. That may be part of the issue.

Tankie is woke for liberals
yup that’s right i took over the anarchist instance and run it centrally with an iron fist
I don’t get why anyone would hate hexbear. Badposting is the only good forum on lemmy
May beanis be with you :beanis:
What is the purpose of trawling Lemmy instances, whom we don’t even federate with, for their bad takes? Not trying to grandstand or protect the honor of a comm for slop, but this is just as much .world living in Hexbear’s head rent-free.
Discussing slop can be useful when it’s commentating on this or that public figure. But this is this equivalent of digging up some dude’s conspiracy blog with 7 active readers.
When Candace Owens says something reactionary, at least it’s a notable person saying something to a large audience, and attaching their own identity to it. Anonymous lemmy posts have a reasonable chance of being literally an AI bot farm managed by one person. It doesn’t feel relevant to anything at all that an anonymous person made a reactionary post in the Fediverse.
I sort of enjoy seeing how we’re talked about
I use it as an informal way to see if leftist views are gaining or losing in influence on Lemmy. When reactionaries are even more scratched, it tends to coincide with greater leftist influence.
I use it as an informal way to see if leftist views are gaining or losing in influence
Using lemmy to gauge public sentiment is begging for false positives and incorrect perceptions; normal people do not use this site, lemmy is a highly maladjusted sink for reddit cranks and idiosyncratic Nazis, a bargain bin 4chan without even the numbers necessary to survey the incel population of the internet
To properly gauge leftist influence sites like TikTok are the only reliable userbase that can represent an accurate cross-section of the general population
I meant purely on Lemmy, to be clear. Not abroad.
But what’s the value in doing that? That’s like counting cracks on a prison wall
We use it actively, and Cowbee also is active in agitprop and educating people within other Lemmy instances, I think these two are reason enough at least for them
Pure passive curiosity, I don’t actively seek it out.
entertainment
But this is this equivalent of digging up some dude’s conspiracy blog with 7 active readers.
For those of us who enjoy this content where should it go?
I would just create an account on that instance and fight with them over there. I am likely misinformed about the purpose of this sub though. Someone suggested El Chisme already exists and I wasn’t clear on that distinction. Edit: El Chisme was merged with Slop 6 months ago
El Chisme was merged with Slop 6 months ago
I deeply embarrassed myself immediately after being modded because i hadn’trealized that
It’s the leftist version of lolcowing and fixer syndrome but with a missionary bent; some Hexbear users believe these lemmy dipshits represent an accurate sample size of the general populace (when literally the opposite is true) and so see value in trying to proselytize to what is in reality a gaggle of several hundred reddit incels whose pedophilia and racism made them unpopular even on reddit proper
And another cohort of Hexbear users are just suffering from a sunk cost mentality concerning federation (or more accurately, its predictable failure) and see value in acting like some spurned lover “I can fix them”, it’s all born from the same meme that infected Hexbear three years ago, where so many convinced themselves that these “people” who crawled over here from reddit are somehow worthy of our attention and engagement, the straight-up delusion that these nazis are normies
Like I’ve said before, if these cockroaches are worthy of whole threads and cross-instance engagement, then let’s go invite some modern 4channers over for a brawl and seal the deal
Block the comm and move along
Nah, I’ll just sit right here with a disapproving look on my face and continuously shake my head
Like I’ve said before, if these cockroaches are worthy of whole threads and cross-instance engagement, then let’s go invite some modern 4channers over for a brawl and seal the deal
Bet.

Tbh a lot of it is, is because its the only distraction I have right now. Dunking on libs, shouting at the germans what I want to shout at them irl is a quick dopamine hit before I look at everything that needs to be done (as in right-now and within the area within arms reach, I can’t even begin with the long-term).
One good aspect of it is that I can hear every counter-argument liberals come up with. These redditors are very cerebral if nothing else. They still want a cohesive world-view like we all do and they seek it in the media circus who they believe blindly like almost everyone here (here as in here in
). But then they need to make sense of all these contradictions, “Ukraine good but nazis there, hmm how does that work??”[1] and you can see the kind of stuff that comes out when they need to twist and bend facts, which anecdotes they seek refuge in.Seeing where all of this will end I then talk to some people on the playground, my family, wherever and they are way less misinformed, they aren’t that far ahead in the centrist radicalisation. And I have seen everything they come up with already. I have read what comrades came up with and use it. As someone who isn’t very articulate about stuff (unless I’m explaining maths) this is really cool because I already know what to say. But I’m not gonna lie that this is the main reason, the main reason is I have ADHD and need a break from reality fairly often.
and the end-result is just pure gibberish https://lemmy.ml/post/44625171/24659774 ↩︎

Are we really doing this again
Some folks just like to follow drama. Hexbear has split petty forum drama and notable person drama between Slop and El Chisme, so you can always block the former if it’s not your vibe
I always forget El Chisme exists because I have no idea what that name means lol, but that’s a good idea thank you
Edit: El Chisme was merged with Slop 6 months ago
why is there a post like this every week?
we exist in the mind of every axisworlder ever since they preemptively defederated, in their civil religion we exist as a fifth column that tries slowy with our corruption and secret sleeper agents destroy their beloved safe haven
Reddit 2Lemmy.world.not only did lemmy dev Dessalines created us 2 months after the reddit migration from nothing, but we have achieved things like brigating every comm with alts slowing the growth of lemmy, kill the second biggest instance Lemmee, infiltrate various mod teams, caused the Feddit zionist drama, and put a hexbear sleeper agent in Dbzero’s admin team. All while being paid by the China/Russia
not only did lemmy dev Dessalines created us 2 months after the reddit migration from nothing, but we have achieved things like brigating every comm with alts slowing the growth of lemmy, kill the second biggest instance Lemmee, infiltrate various mod teams, caused the Feddit zionist drama, and put a hexbear sleeper agent in Dbzero’s admin team. All while being paid by the China/Russia
we are all powerful, wow!

Pic of me the during my deployment. Just a warning, this is actual combat footage from an active infiltration operation. I have clearance of course from the mods etc. All faces except mine has been blurred to protect other agent and operators identities since this still is an ongoing operation.
spoiler

07

It’s about being gay with your dad.
You can still see shit from places that have banned you though
I just want to say I love you guys. Including our cia posters.
It’s always so bizarre to see see worlds take on us
Made it half way down the second chain where they said we do a bunch of purity politics and were huffing our own farts.
And it’s like yeah I fucking hate leftists. But holy fucking shit I cannot stand anyone else even a little. I really do just want the healthcare, please. I’m still pretty sure it’s wrong to genocide people. I’m just down to listen to MLK or whatever.
One of them had this to say:
You know that fifteen year old mindset when you just begin to grasp the idea of and your role in social responsibility but you’re still fifteen so you’re an absolutely obnoxious shit about it? Like “omg babies all abortion is bad”. “Only white people can be racists” “shearing kills sheep!!!” level shit.
And you know how some people never get out of that because they like the taste of what they think is moral righteousness but is actually just huffing your own biased farts while defining random “acceptable” targets to abuse?
…yeahhhhhh.
Purity politics can eat my shit.
Oh look. An Australian immediately getting defensive over whiteness. Let’s see what other bangers this person came up with:
Imma gonna call him winnie the pooh all I want and you can’t stop me
Anti-Chinese racism.
The problem is a lot of people don’t differentiate between the israeli government and the israeli people as a whole - i’ve seen some straight up ‘they had it coming’ style bullshit that is verrry careful to place Good Jews and Bad Jews (the festival goers) to try and get a pass on antisemitsm and maaaan it is transparent as fuck.
Zionism.
I’ve started replying to redpillers redpilling their unsolicited opinions on women’s posts with “you sound fat”. Results have been hilarious
Fatphobia.
This is the person complaining about “purity politics.” Don’t you dare say anything about trans people or women, but everyone else is fair game. What no intersectionality does to a motherfucker.
Every one of these threads about us reads like a bunch of people who have never been here confirming each other’s hallucinations
reads like a place where people go who cant pull their identity from their politics… like children who think theyve discovered something for the first time, but really all ya get is immature, politicized lord of the flies
As a member of the hexbear community from before we were even on Lemmy, I’d grade this analysis a B+, definitely seen worse takes lol
where people go who cant pull their identity from their politics
I’d really really love for you to deconstruct what this sentence means
Listen bub, I’m a white middle class imperial drone living off the fat extracted from the global south! So, for me, politics exists in a vacuum where I can peek in every once and a while to see what’s “going on” but otherwise ignore it for a decade until whatever-current-bubble pops and I have to call my Senator about my 401k loosing 5% of its value over its lifetime! I don’t understand why you can’t just dissacoiate from reality like me and keep politics as a pet intrist and not your whole identity.
/s
I’m a white middle class imperial drone living off the fat extracted from the global south!
that describes most of hexbear
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