I would really rather that these were actual examples, and not conspiracy theories. We all have our own unsubstantiated ideas about what shadowy no-gooders are doing, but I’d rather hear about things that are actually happening.

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    As part of a couple that just got knocked down to one vehicle instead of two, due to a wreck, I wholly disagree with your statement. Take a kid to friends house? Lol. Nope. Pick up a loaf of bread or grocery store? Negative. Park for a walk? Sorry. Get to work? Better start walking down the highway.

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      In this case the lie has been repeated so much and so loud that entire cities have been designed according to it.

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      Your whole environment is designed that way because cars need so much space. If you lived in a walkable European city all of that wouldn’t be a problem.

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        Mind giving an example of such a city? Not like I’d be able to move now, but one never knows.

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          Just watch the YouTube channel Not Just Bikes. He not only shows you examples of such cities, but goes into great detail explaining why their design works—and what flaws they have.

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          Not European, but most Japanese and Korean cities are very walkable. With trains or busses, it can occasionally be easier to get around than by car

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        Well living in the US is my reality, and there’s two cities in my state that have walkable areas, and if you want to live in the somewhat safer portions that are walkable in either of those cities it’s going to cost you literally twice as much to live there as anywhere else in the state.

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        Not if the American automotive industry has anything to say about it. The whole country has been built around making walking impossible or too dangerous to attempt, just to maximise car sales at the expense of citizens’ freedoms.

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          I don’t doubt it, I just don’t understand it.

          You don’t have to walk on the roads. Is there no grass or dirt nearby to walk on?

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            Why have grass or dirt when you can have roads…? Grass and dirt sell no cars.

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                Judging by the pictures I’ve seen of the US, and google maps street view, more road, or parking lots. Sometimes, but not often, short stretches of sidewalk, often not wide enough to walk on safely, regularly interrupted by lampposts and whatnot.

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                  Do you have any examples? I’m picturing suburbia with houses next to houses and fences blocking everything except driveways that lead to roads that go nowhere except driveways for miles until hitting the highway.

                  But that just seems like a lazy video game set piece. I can’t imagine it in reality

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        I live in an area that is not safe for the kids (or adults) to walk. It’s a hilly windy area outside city limits of a smaller touristy place. Lotta state park area if you go at least 4 miles away, though.

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      That’s all anecdotal. Everything in your list I can do without a car. Especially take a walk. I literally just walk out the front door.

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        Wow. I didn’t realize the entire US population actually lived at your house that is in a safe to walk area near schools and shopping centers and grocery stores and where you work, all within a few miles.

        Idiot

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          Exactly. Just because you live in a tiny town with less than 200 people doesn’t mean the rest of the country does. In fact, the majority of Americans live in an area that could seriously benefit from better public transit and cycling and in turn less cars.

          Idiot

          Ah, so you already know you’re wrong.