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      If I go this route, is there a way to take that VM I’ve created and just roll straight into it? Just install it on the boot drive?

      I’ve got a Pop!_OS VM going already.

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        I think there is a way technically with something like trueimage or clonezilla, but I’ve never used it. Always thought of my VM as a learning tool, and then used what I learnt to fresh install on real hardware

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          Oh I never though of running those!

          Clonezilla inside the VM to clone the “drive” and then clone that to the actual SSD

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    MintLinux and Pop!OS are normally the two front-runners for new users. Basically, if you use Steam and you don’t play online-only games with bad implementations of anti-cheat software, you are good to game on either.

    Make a USB that you can “live boot” from, so you can test out how they work with your hardware. Generally spearking, Mint works better with AMD, and Pop! works better with Nvidea.

    Here’s the official basic guide for Mint:
    https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

    And here’s the official basic guide for Pop!:
    https://support.system76.com/articles/install-pop/

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      Do Pop!_OS AND Linux Mint have KDE Plasma variants, for newcomers who don’t know how to swap desktop environments?

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        I don’t think they do. But once you’ve already started looking into swapping the desktop environment from whichever is the default, I don’t think you can call yourself a newcomer anymore.

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          Well, yes, that’s why I asked. Some newcomers to linux find Plasma more familiar than GNOME et al. Having it preinstalled can help them get comfortable faster, with less effort.

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            Wanting a windows-like environment makes sense. It’s not specifically Plasma, but Mint has Cinamon which is very Windows-like.

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              I was a Win XP/7 user that bought a laptop with Windows 8.1, emigrated to Linux, and found that Cinnamon felt more like Windows to me than Windows did.

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        No; Linux Mint used to offer a KDE variant but have stopped; Linux Mint is the showcase distro for the Cinnamon DE, so obviously they have that, it is my understanding that Clem is active with the MATE team as well, so Mint MATE edition is a thing, and they also offer xfce as their lightweight offering.

        Pop!_OS has their (IMO) godawful Gnome fork that they’re turning into their own thing, and that’s IT. They offer instructions on installing other DEs, which I tried once. I managed to install a very unpolished, ugly and feature incomplete version of Mint that broke flatpak somehow.

        So if you really want KDE, just install a distro that ships it, like KDE Neon, Kubuntu or Fedora KDE Spin.

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        I was using Mint with my Nvidia GPU for a while but found that games felt very laggy. Not sure what was going on but I switched to Kubuntu and that seemed to resolve the issue. (I assume the problem was something to do with cinnamon).

        I like KDE and feel like the tools are more mature than they are in gnome or cinnamon anyway. Snaps are annoying but are fairly easy to avoid.

        My vote is for Kubuntu for new users.

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    Basically, you should choose your distro according to the available UIs (DesktopEnvironments) as well as the philosophy and back-end configuration of the distribution.

    UI (desktop environments):

    • KDE (Windows like)
    • Gnome (MacOS like)
    • XFCE (very barebones, windows like)
    • Cinnamon (also windows like)
    • CosmicDE (comming soon, mix of KDE and Gnome)


    Distros:

    • Fedora: very stable yet a very progressive philosophy (usually implement major changes first). Comes in Gnome, KDE and other variants (spins)
    • PopOS!: “Just works” distro, great for NVidia cards. Currently still using Gnome but will soon switch to CosmicDE.
    • ArcoLinux: If you want something beginner-friendly but want to be able to change everything later. Extremely flexible, comes in many flavours like Gnome, KDE, …
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      Nobara is Fedora with some additions that make it easier for new users to stay in point and click mode and have more things working out of the box…

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    Abstract: Use Linux Mint.

    Welcome to the Linux community! I say that so often I’ve bound it to an autokey macro, I run it for every newcomer I greet.

    First bit of advice: Don’t wait until Windows 10 is unsupported and you’re FORCED to a new OS to start learning Linux. Simple reason: Linux is a very different system. There will be culture shocks. An example I cite a lot is Linux doesn’t call them “shortcuts.” What Windows calls Shortcuts, Linux calls Links or Launchers, depending on exactly what it does. A shortcut to a document is a Link, a shortcut to a program is a Launcher. Makes perfect sense…and is different than Windows. And those culture shocks will spend months throwing you around.

    I switched to Linux because I HATED Windows 8.1…and I kept a copy of Win 8.1 on that computer for that wretched products’ entire lifespan. In case I found something I didn’t know how to do in Linux. There were times when I had…let’s say an essay or something I had to turn in on a deadline, and this required a task that I knew how to do in Windows, but that’s not how Linux works…I found it best to just do it in Windows, turn it in, then when I had plenty of time and no pressure, I could easily learn how to do it later. Eventually that kind of stopped, and then reversed. Nowadays Windows feels foreign to me and Linux feels like home.

    I also suggest starting to use FOSS software applications like LibreOffice as soon as you can, because honestly the OS isn’t the thing that causes the real problems, it’s the software library.

    As for which distro: It honestly doesn’t matter all that much, They honestly have more in common than they have differences. The major component that you’ll really feel the difference in at first is the desktop environment, and that’s a personal and kind of visceral choice. There are people that absolutely adore GNOME. I absolutely despise it; this is no hyperbole, if given a choice between using GNOME and using no GUI at all just the terminal, I’m using the terminal. A lot of people really like KDE. I can’t put my finger on why, but KDE feels dead to me. There’s some uncanny vacant quality to KDE, it gives me the same feeling as a website that is still on the internet but hasn’t been updated since 2006. Cinnamon feels like home to me, I’m very comfortable with it, other people can’t stand it for reasons I don’t comprehend.

    This is why we have choices.

    I do generally steer folks away from distros that are, basically “Forks of Kubuntu with our own non-specific special sauce that makes it good for [beginners/gamers/trout/Anglicans/veterans of the Falklands war/cellists/hackers].” Because their own special sauce is going to be a skin for the settings menu that’s 10% jankier, and a different color scheme. I would stick to top level distros like Debian or Red Hat, MAJOR forks like Ubuntu or Fedora (though Ubuntu is going so corporate these days I actually try to steer folks away) or DE flagship distros like Mint, Pop!_OS or Neon.

    This is my tenth year of using Linux Mint. It stands the test of time, it doesn’t Just Break the way the memetastic rolling release distros do, the GUI feels complete but not bloated, and…to me it’s home.

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    not here to recommend a specific distro, I’m sure your experience will largely be familiar between the popular recommendations here.

    I think you will be pleasantly surprised at just how good gaming on Linux is right now. You’ll probably find that contemporary AAA titles perfom better than on win10/11.

    I find that Linux is the best place to play older windows games. You don’t get fucked over by annoying exclusive fullscreen behaviour messing with your desktop when you tab out, for example.

    Shit really just works. It’s a great time.

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    Ubuntu or one of its derivatives like Mint or PopOS.

    Fedora is pretty good too but is a little more cutting edge, essentially a beta test for Red Hat Enterprise Linuxs new features. Good stuff, is what I use, but also occasionally breaks things and requires some insight into linux. Still pretty polished and user friendly tho.

    Play with Fedora or Ubuntu for a while and then explore other distros.

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    Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop. It’s designed to make the transition easy. The menus and taskbar are all in the same place as you’d expect them on Windows. There’s the usual set of documents/pictures/downloads folders. The interface is good-looking and polished like you’re used to, too.

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    ZorinOS. My elderly parents have been using it for years without any issues, so I can guarantee you that it’s very noob-friendly.

    However, if you’d like to game, I’d recommend using either Pop!_OS or Nobara instead. I’d recommend giving them all a try regardless, just create a bootable USB using Ventoy and chuck all the ISOs you wish to try.

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    The standard recs are Pop, Mint, Ubuntu, or Fedora. All great choices.

    I’ll just add the option of jumping straight into the deep end and installing Arch. It’s not my distro of choice (I run Debian) but you will learn a lot by installing and running it.

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      That’s how I did it. But be careful: It won’t be pleasant at first and very time intensive!

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    I’d start with Pop!OS or Linux Mint. They both are beginner friendly.

    Especially Pop runs well with NVIDIA GPUs. AMD is no problem on either.

    I personally think that Pop has the best out of the box, everything is just running, experience.

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    I’d suggest Debian Stable with KDE Plasma.

    Debian is the grandparent of most distros today, instructions for it are everywhere, and it’s got a large userbase.

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    Fedora. In my personal experience it has been much more sane and stable compared to ubuntu or tumbleweed, and my friends have preferred it over arch or kde neon, often for stability. The packages are up to date, games work great (even on nvidia) and it runs great on laptop

    I’ve also heard good things about Pop!_os and mint, but I haven’t used either

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      I also love that they don’t seem to do much customization on the desktop environment, just a clean, default Gnome (which admittedly might not be ideal for many people due to some…questionable UX decisions).