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    11 months ago

    WHY ARE YOU POSTING THIS ON MY FEED I DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT I DO NOT HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL TREATY WITH YOU

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    Fake etymology conspiracy theories (aka “word magic”) are one of my biggest pet peeves.

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      Same people who think that a winamp visualization is actually “seeing the music”.

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      I theorize that this word magic and the impassioned (yet nonsense) speaking comes from and is encouraged by religion and worship of the bible

      When it comes to pulling out deeper divine meaning from the bible by analyzing its text, I always chuckle that these people often don’t realize (or blatantly reject) that the English copy they are reading has been loosely translated dozens of times Iver millenia.

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    Just in case anyone is curious-

    parent (n.)

    early 15c. (late 12c. as a surname), “a mother or father; a forebear, ancestor,” from Old French parent “father, parent, relative, kin” (11c.) and directly from Latin parentem (nominative parens) “father or mother, ancestor,” noun use of present participle of parire “bring forth, give birth to, produce,” from PIE root *pere- (1) “to produce, bring forth.” Began to replace native elder after c. 1500. also from early 15c.

    BIG GOVERNMENT has apparently been planning this since feudalism.

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      OH MY GISH !!! parent comes from the Latin for to produce??? Like produce that can be shipped in ships, therefore when you are Berne’s you become produce that can be shipped on a ship, turning you in a product of the US government corp (unincorporated), which means that when you are driving you are actually being shipped as freight in your car, which means that only maritime law applies and that the cop that is stopping you doesn’t have jurisdiction because you are actually a shipped good and he isn’t the coast guard or a customs officer.

      That also means that you can’t physically be charged for stuff because the shipping company (i.e. the US government) is actually responsible for all the costs incurred during shipping (i.e. you driving) under the imperial maritime charter or 1753 and the amended treaty of Orville of 1772.

      That makes sense now. Thank you!!!

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      You believe the dictionary about the definition of words? Don’t you know the word dictionary was invented in 1793 when a homesteader fucked a woman named Mary? Turns out Mary was married to a member of the sinister Jewish cabal that decided to invent the dictionary as a means of deceiving the goiym - thus dicks-on-Mary.

      Daily reminder that most conspiracies point to the Jews, and that becoming a sovcit is an indicator of an upcoming pivot to Nazism.

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      Love how this definition is just like “the word parent is from the word parent from the word parent from the word parent.”

      insert astronaut with gun meme

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      It’s appropriate since they believe that words are magic and as long as they say the right words, the “spell” will be cast and they will become immune to laws.

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      That’s probably the most sane part about It.

      I think they are saying that those Words where chosen specifically because they can subconsciously affect the words users perceptions.

      Not magic nor a conspiracy but there is psychological truth that different words with identical meaning can effect us differently.

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        No, they mean literal magic. I started reading the book, and they’re talking about “Dark Magicians” on the first page.

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          For the simple minded its understandable how anyone with psychological knowledge could be confused with magicians.

          Just look at fortune tellers and the likes.

          Its a perversion of the truth that any sufficiently advanced enough science can only be interpreted as magic. For some, common knowledge seems sufficient enough.

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            Sovcits are true believers in the magic. Anyone smart enough to do as you are suggesting is stealing from the true believers.

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        different words with identical meaning can effect us differently

        Other than puzzling us when a different word is not known because it stopped being used in that sense in the twelfth century?

        I am not sure that there are studies that found anything statistically significant. It’s like saying that there are ‘selling slogans’ when in fact no matter how selling you slogan is, no one will buy if the product is bullshit

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          An example of what i mean:

          Crippled -> handicaped -> disabled -> person with disability.

          They all essentially mean exactly the same Thing. They all where the proper terminology at some point in time. But the emotional effect is different.

          Also some political examples:

          Global-warming and climate-change. Pro-life and anti-abortion

          I assume most people are smart enough not to let Terminology cloud judgement but we are talking about the kind of people who read and believe the stuff like in the book above.

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        I mean, anyone who’s ever taken Prof. George Lakoff’s classes at UC Berkeley is familiar with his famous “Don’t think of an elephant” lecture. He tells his students not to think about an elephant, then goes on to describe an elephant in agonizing detail, but under no circumstances are you permitted to picture that elephant in your mind.

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          I cant even get trough your text without picturing the whole classroom including the elephants in everyones mind.

          I am not sure what the idea is but if i was given this assignment i conclude 3 possibilities.

          • the point is that its impossible so i can just give up and laugh at the spectacle.

          • i should grab for my headphones, close my eyes and focus my mind to some place far away

          • run out of the classroom and do something that requires concentration. Random conversation with someone.

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            Lakoff also wrote a book based on this lecture, titled “Don’t Think of an Elephant!” where he tells us that

            Frames are mental structures that shape the way we see the world. As a result, they shape the goals we seek, the plans we make, the way we act, and what counts as a good or bad outcome of our actions. In politics our frames shape our social policies and the institutions we form to carry out policies.

            Every word we have is defined relative to a conceptual frame, even trying to negate the frame activates the frame. So, if I tell you “Don’t think of an elephant” you will immediately think of an elephant!

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    Or you know, from the old (and current) French “Parent”, which itself came from the Latin “Parentem”. But I guess making a quick search isn’t as fun as making shit up.

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      Nah man, that doesn’t sound right. See “pair rent” is much more believable. Everyone knows that these conspiracy things always need to rhyme or sound similar or have the same letters but rearranged. Not be the same word in another language, that’s just bunk.

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    God, I should just trip balls, write a book while I’m doing it, and sell it to these whackjobs.

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      Wow. A lot of talk about magic in there. Way more wiccan hippy than right wing sovcit but I guess you go far enough down the rabbit hole and they converge.

      Pdf also seemed to make my CPU spike like crazy, wonder what else is embedded in there… Probably not magic

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        As a Wiccan, please don’t bring us into this. That book has nothing to do with common Wiccan beliefs. Just because someone’s using the word magic does not mean it has anything to do with wicca. That text has as much in common with Wicca as a Mr. Clean magic eraser.

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          I’m curious as to what beliefs one can have about magic at all (other than “it’s not real”) that are any less insane than this. Please do enlighten me.

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            Generally Wiccans believe that magic is a force of nature that science just hasn’t explained yet. Its a way of nudging the forces of nature in a desired direction often in conjunction with the forces of diety. Its not like magic from Harry Potter. We do not for example believe we can fly or get out of debts with magic words written on letters.

            At the end of the day Wiccans aren’t any crazier than any other religion. If you’re an atheist you’ll find us just as “crazy” as any other theist. If you believe in a diety then our beliefs are different but no crazier than yours.

            Not understanding our religion and then choosing to compare us to someone who is likely mentally ill is just asshole behavior. If you don’t understand Wicca why bring us up at all except to be outright disrespectful?

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    I’m pretty sure this author is a paranoid schizophrenic or something. Most of these guys are just dumb and gullible - this one is just kind of sad.

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      Printed media has always been huge for conspiracy nuts before the internet, and plenty of them still make books. John Birch Society, Soilder of Fortune magazine, and plenty of terrible tax evasion and antivax books abound even now.