• octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    Gen Z seems to be refusing to swallow the bullshit the rest of us grew up having fed to us. A shame I’ll be close to aging out by the time they get much political power.

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      The Bullshit from decades ago was easier to swallow because at least people had a chance to make money and have a decent job while also paying a bit less for things like food, shelter or some luxuries.

      Now people have no choice … they get paid less, they have no security and they have to pay more for food and shelter.

      People were always aware of the bullshit … in the past we could put up with it because we could afford it … now people can’t.

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        Cost benefit analysis. I’m Gen-X and we had to deal with both Silent Gen “company loyalty” and Boomer toxic bullshit, but that was fine because we got a lot out of it and we were able tondo our own shit. In other words, a positive cost benefit analysis. Greed tilted that until it is now not worth it. Its funny how some people love capitalism until the system demands that they adjust. Sorry corpos, if you want a resource, you have to pay fair market value.

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      I agree with the article. Gen Z are more open to sharing their life with the world. I wouldn’t say early generations just swallowed the bullshit. They just didn’t have a platform to express it to the masses. In the 70s or 80s if you got fired, maybe you reacted the same way, demanding a reason and expressing your frustration. But the only people who witnessed that, were the ones in the room and later on your buddies when you told them the story.

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      You don’t need to wait for them to get political power, start organizing a union and get that toxic shit out of your workplace now

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      Started with Gen X, which is why the baby boomers retiring is creating such a desperate demographic crisis. Nobody wants to buy into such an obviously corrupt system, which has rewarded every consecutive generation with less and less compensation despite the abundantly obvious massive advances in productivity. People are realizing that most of their work is not at all about generating value, but instead is all about occupying their time and energy in an apparent attempt to reduce competition.

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      If you could ask for early retirement now then they would get power that much quicker

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      They’re literally following a TikTok Trend. They’re submerged deep into bullshit and eating it up.

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        9 months ago

        And for many of them it will bite them in the ass.

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          Yeah the Gen-Xers who have been beaten into submission acknowledge that not having a job or any prospects kinda sucks.

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            I was more thinking about the laws against recording people, and particularly publishing those recordings. Along with the recordings being proof of other things, like maybe the person who took snacks on their way out could be accused of theft.

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      9 months ago

      thats everyone at their age.

      the difference is they can broadcast it into the world now.

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        Nah. When I was a kid, my peers were happy to bend over backwards to work harder for nothing extra.

        Times have changed. That’s what happens as the disparity in wealth continues to grow. More people feel disenfranchised.

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          i was never that dumb to work for free, my friends werent either, sorry to hear your friends were.

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        Hmm that’s some of it, probably. I don’t think it’s all of it. And even if so, I think that phenomenon can build further momentum.

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          id go as far as doubting its at all of it, but AFAICT every recent generation had some good thinking about the problems and were keen on dissenting somehow when they were young.

          even a lot of the boomers (who are seen as very conservative now) had their counterculture thing when they were young.

          i think my biggest point with this is that the kids are generally alright and we can do good by laying off the juvenoia a bit.

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            i think my biggest point with this is that the kids are generally alright and we can do good by laying off the juvenoia a bit.

            100% agree there.

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        2030 is my guess because roughly half of the kids from the 60s will be mid 60s then and retire or be unable to keep on hustling because of age while all support systems will get into absolute overload.

        It’s seven years until 2030.

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          Well either see a brutal market recession as the boomers die off and/or sell off their retirement portfolio to buy more sand for their hourglass, while everyone else is too broke to buy it at the “market value” their financial planner promised them in 1992

          Or capitalists will sweep in and buy it for cheap, exacerbating the housing crisis and continuing to make life unaffordable

          Either way we’re in trouble

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            Joke is: I’m one of these boomers, born in the 1960s 😄

            Classic example of rage math - I’m always furious about the shit and the terror my generation didn’t prevent. We knew and know everything and chose and choose to carry on.

            Assholes all around. I’m dead serious about this.

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          i think you underestimate how bad it can get before they can’t stop a collapse anymore.

          we already have a big homeless population and old people already in dire situations. i think that was the spark that got them so politicized in the first place.

          and the biggest factors will probably be more related to climate change which will take a bit more time to reeeeally fuck with us.