the terms HSTS and AGP have melted my brain. whenever i feel any sort of attraction to women i think to myself “certified AGP moment” and then feel disgusted with myself
i used to be bi but i’ve psyop’d myself into being het
Blanchard is a quack, his ideas could never be backed up with any clinical evidence, there is nothing that indicates a meaningful difference in the transness of straight and lesbian trans women and bisexuals or asexuals do not even exist in his model. The entire concept is a lesbophobic gatekeeping plot by a horny chaser bastard and if you come across a psychologist that still believes this, it’s a good reason for trans women never to be alone in the same room with him when the door is closed. I’m unfortunately not joking, the last remaining Blanchardian in my state is a massive sex pest. These are the kinds of people we’re talking about.
But let’s assume for a moment they are correct and liking girls makes me a confused fetishistic man. Given that the women i date are all transbians as well, that would make all of us gay men. Which would in turn make all of us HSTS. Which would then make all of us lesbian. Which …
You see how none of this crap makes any sense at all?
Blanchard is a quack, his ideas could never be backed up with any clinical evidence, there is nothing that indicates a meaningful difference in the transness of straight and lesbian trans women and bisexuals or asexuals do not even exist in his model. The entire concept is a lesbophobic gatekeeping plot by a horny chaser bastard and if you come across a psychologist that still believes this, it’s a good reason for trans women never to be alone in the same room with him when the door is closed. I’m unfortunately not joking, the last remaining Blanchardian in my state is a massive sex pest. These are the kinds of people we’re talking about.
oh so it’s “vaccines cause autism” but for trans women
iirc in the blanchard lore bisexuality is explained by “meta attraction” I.e. you’re just attracted to the idea of yourself being more feminine by being with a man.
hot take but I think being “agp” is not bad or pathological any more than being trans is. Cis women get to enjoy feeling/being perceived as hot without it being a mental illness, why shouldn’t trans women
AGP is obviously an anti-trans slur, not a description of an actually existing sexual phenomenon. The only people that ever apply it to cis women are trans women making a joke. What you’re describing is just called “feeling sexy”
hot take but I think being “agp” is not bad or pathological any more than being trans is.
Maybe we can just leave this AGP shit out of conversations about trans women entirely. Nothing is gained from using a harmful, completely fucked, brainwormed gatekeeping term and applying it to normal human behavior.
the problem is pathologizing and shaming behavior that doesn’t actually harm anyone- it doesn’t matter what specific term you use to do it, hence why the term “agp” is in quotes.
i was trying to push back against the common rebuttal of “we’re nothing like those gross perverts Blanchard writes about” because it leaves room for the transphobes to move on to something else. it concedes too much! Imo people should be allowed to transition because they have a right to as a matter of bodily autonomy, not because they fit within some abstract standards of behavior.
Ok, i get it now and i largely agree that a certain “do i want her or do i want to be her” mood is extremely common among cis women as well, and i particularly agree that transness isn’t something to be diagnosed in the first place. I also think that both of these arguments are among the many, many good reasons to discard the term AGP in its entirity. I just read the quoted part as you actually arguing within AGP discourse, the way it’s worded is just a bit ambiguous.
the terms HSTS and AGP have melted my brain. whenever i feel any sort of attraction to women i think to myself “certified AGP moment” and then feel disgusted with myself
i used to be bi but i’ve psyop’d myself into being het
Blanchard is a quack, his ideas could never be backed up with any clinical evidence, there is nothing that indicates a meaningful difference in the transness of straight and lesbian trans women and bisexuals or asexuals do not even exist in his model. The entire concept is a lesbophobic gatekeeping plot by a horny chaser bastard and if you come across a psychologist that still believes this, it’s a good reason for trans women never to be alone in the same room with him when the door is closed. I’m unfortunately not joking, the last remaining Blanchardian in my state is a massive sex pest. These are the kinds of people we’re talking about.
But let’s assume for a moment they are correct and liking girls makes me a confused fetishistic man. Given that the women i date are all transbians as well, that would make all of us gay men. Which would in turn make all of us HSTS. Which would then make all of us lesbian. Which …
You see how none of this crap makes any sense at all?
oh so it’s “vaccines cause autism” but for trans women
TERFs tell us that autism cause trans people but have we ever considered that trans people cause autism?
(This is a joke please don’t hate me)
oh i know it’s all bullshit but it doesn’t need to make sense for it to fuel my self-hatred
I am so sorry. Women get to be attracted to women
yes and this is something i’d never apply to anyone else but myself but i don’t think i’ll ever be in a wlw relationship because of it
Yeah thats valid ofc if you can’t date a woman because it makes you feel bad then yeah don’t
iirc in the blanchard lore bisexuality is explained by “meta attraction” I.e. you’re just attracted to the idea of yourself being more feminine by being with a man.
hot take but I think being “agp” is not bad or pathological any more than being trans is. Cis women get to enjoy feeling/being perceived as hot without it being a mental illness, why shouldn’t trans women
AGP is obviously an anti-trans slur, not a description of an actually existing sexual phenomenon. The only people that ever apply it to cis women are trans women making a joke. What you’re describing is just called “feeling sexy”
Maybe we can just leave this AGP shit out of conversations about trans women entirely. Nothing is gained from using a harmful, completely fucked, brainwormed gatekeeping term and applying it to normal human behavior.
the problem is pathologizing and shaming behavior that doesn’t actually harm anyone- it doesn’t matter what specific term you use to do it, hence why the term “agp” is in quotes.
i was trying to push back against the common rebuttal of “we’re nothing like those gross perverts Blanchard writes about” because it leaves room for the transphobes to move on to something else. it concedes too much! Imo people should be allowed to transition because they have a right to as a matter of bodily autonomy, not because they fit within some abstract standards of behavior.
Ok, i get it now and i largely agree that a certain “do i want her or do i want to be her” mood is extremely common among cis women as well, and i particularly agree that transness isn’t something to be diagnosed in the first place. I also think that both of these arguments are among the many, many good reasons to discard the term AGP in its entirity. I just read the quoted part as you actually arguing within AGP discourse, the way it’s worded is just a bit ambiguous.
i mean i pretty much was, op admitted to having brain worms around the term so i was trying to suggest re-examining/reclaiming it from that angle