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    after a million americans dead, and a violent insurrection, the fact this man is the presumptive nominee for the republican party for president of the united states of america AGAIN is so terribly shameful, there are few words to describe just how far we’ve fallen as a nation, and just how much our light has dimmed

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      You, unfortunately, are technically correct.

      (Because I still think that the U.S. is a great country, with the majority of Americans being great individuals who just want to live in peace and contribute to society. But the spoiled apples have deteriorated the fabric of said society, not to catastrophic levels - that would be Iran and Venezuela - but still significant.)

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      No: Biden’s optimal response may be that, but what his actual response is going to be, given the Dems’ coasting on assumed-entitlement, could be anything.

      Never count chickens before they’re hatched, right?

      Scientific Method: wait & see what the actual evidence is.

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        The important thing is to speak as poorly as possible about democrats…

        That way the closest champions of a good cause are associated with failure, which helps how?

        So despite the fact that Biden already shellacked trump at the last presidential debate you say “wait and see”… why?

        Even as your own trash understanding of the “scientific method” means we already have evidence from 4 years ago.

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    At the upcoming presidential debate on June 27, Donald Trump plans to highlight a handful of horrific murders—allegedly by undocumented migrants—and blame them on President Biden. We know this because Trump told us so right on his Truth Social feed.

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      Eh, it’s not that original. It’s not any more “vile” than anything Trump has said before. It will fade into the background and not move the needle for voters.

      I think Trump is going to lose the 2024 election because he’s not interesting anymore. His former voters may vote for him, but the “undecided” voter who decides at the last minute will not.

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    If only Biden could debate as well as Jon Stewart. He’d destroy Trump though we all know Donny wouldn’t dare turn up to that debate.

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      There should be a debate where the nominees get to choose a champion to take their place.

      Jon “The Bow-Tie Butcher” Stewart

      vs

      Vivek “The Right Shade of Brown” Ramaswamy

      I think this might be an idea that’s so stupid, it’s awesome.

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      Most of Jon Stewart’s debate prowess comes from being extremely intelligent and being intellectually honest and curious about finding the truth behind the rhetoric.

      Biden has at most part of the first, is notoriously bad at the second even by the standards of a politician, and is the polar opposite on the third.

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    Not exactly a bold prediction to say Trump is gonna be racist at the debate. Kind of a free space on the bingo card at this point.

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    On another thread someone was posting about how women in France are swinging hard right because of similar messaging, like it went from 23% to 31% pretty quickly. So unfortunately that’s evidence that this might work here and an effective countermeasure should be prepared and tested.

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      The undecided “independents” are pretty fucking dim, but you have to give them more than that to engage their 5 rusty neurons.

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        satan. npr had two man on the street things (both were actually women). One said its hard because im biden socially but trump for the economy and another is like well you have to admit the economy was better under trump. It irks me so much that people do not understand how the economy works as far as interest rates. Trump bully pullpitted the fed to zero them before covid after obama had been slowly raising them. He is directly responsible for the inflation and them having to be jacked at a break neck pace.

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      I think he’d at least need to be clear on which part is a lie; did the killings not actually happen or are they not his fault?

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      He’d be muted though. So snapping back isn’t something either of them can do. They have to wait their turn.

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        So, he can say it during his turn. Every time. And not “that’s a lie,” but “You are a liar.”