Even though federation has led to racists and/or NATO defenders showing up, I’ve also encountered a number if very cool people from other instances posting things like helpful advice on federation stuff, vivid descriptions of getting vored by a pack of anthro-hyenas, interesting insights and opinions on Star Trek lore, etc. I still haven’t found much in the way of active hobby communities, but it’s pretty cool to see more Star Trek and furry stuff in the timeline, and I feel it makes having to deal with the occasional deranged lib worth it.
Anyways, to all the genuinely cool people who wander into Hexbear threads, I’m very glad you’ve showed up to bless us with your wonderful posts and I hope you stick around.
I had no idea where the r/CTH people went after the reddit ban. Kinda forgot about the community since its been so long.
But I was pleasantly surprised when I saw random Hexbear posts popping up. It’s good to see political shitposts that I agree with.
I’ll definitely be sticking around. And I hope you enjoy the furry porn.
you’re lucky that the volcel police are not yet the volcel army
Lol… I have no idea what this means. I gotta work on understanding the in-jokes.
You know those creeps who call themselves “incels”? That is short for “involuntary celibate”. “Volcel” is a term made in response, “voluntary celibate”. “Volcel police” was made as a joke for reducing horny-posting.
Ah, so aces who like the aesthetics of incels.
Well, I think the term originally came from volcels as one of their many ways to decry a type of “fake” incel, but now it’s a joke regarding people being horny on main (and that being annoying and often creepy).
not the aesthetics, just reducing the amount of horny posting when there’s too many cishet men around.
On r/CTH, whenever someone’s comment included the phrase volcel police, AutoModerator would respond with
The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES. انتباه!! انتباه!! هنا شرطة الڤولسل. في نطاق سلطتنا تحت قانون السل نأمركم الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة. الرجاء الامتناع عن النكاح و المص. أيها الليبراليين البيض!
Like here, for example
lmao i miss this
I still think we should bring back most of the old automod comments
I would enjoy this
It is always nice when wayward cth posters come home
What I will miss though: criticizing China from the left
It is already difficult to do so on Chinese internet because of the censorship and periodic crackdowns (though there are still pockets of QQ groups you can join if you know where to look for them), and pre-federated Hexbear was really one of the last places on the internet where you could have a frank discussion on China without too much propagandized brainworms.
Now I find myself refraining from talking about China because of so many racist libs spouting nonsense propaganda.
I’m hoping we get a local only general purpose discussion comm for stuff like this
until we get local comms for it, news mega might be a good place to put this stuff as it’s basically only us and a few folks from lemmygrad in there.
c/sino is an appropriate place to discuss China. if you see sinophobic bullshit, report it and we’ll make sure it’s dealt with. and criticism from the left is fine; it just needs to be sincere/well-intentioned.
also, for general or casual discussions, including China or whatever, c/chat is also fine. again, we run it and we’ll make sure it doesn’t get out of hand, especially if you can help us out but reporting bad actors.
I feel this even more for Russia right now. Can’t say anything bad about them or the dronies will take it as a reason the US is justified in fighting them to the last Ukranian.
once we simmer down, we’ll get back to the true internal struggle sessions and left-criticisms
Hey I’m sorry to hear you feel this way i would be super curious to hear that stuff and would absolutely not tolerate racist libs spouting nonsense
I was very skeptical I’ll admit, but yeah not only are these dunk threads the funniest shit in the world but yeah we’ve also been getting cool new comrades joining Hexbear because .world won’t let them see our magnificent posting energy.
Imagine what it must be like to be in a thread where everyone is talking about Hexbear and you can’t see any of the posts lol.
Big beautiful posting energy. Some say the best.
Your username is incredible.
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The one time I agree with the volcel police.
The only way hobby communities will become active is through member contribution, just saying. I mod a couple, one that has 500+ subs yet I’m commonly the only one populating it. We need more nerds helping.
My hobby projects (mostly 3D printing and related) have been pretty slow since moving across the country for work, then getting laid off and having to move again, but I’ll hopefully be back at it soon enough.
Not sure if it counts but I’ve also been getting back into Blender/Unity for VRChat avatar stuff, which is fun. Maybe I should post about that when my avatar is decent enough to show off.
Do you know if everything from an instance is federated as soon as a single post or member of that instance interacts? Seems like it would be hard to find hobby stuff otherwise.
This I still haven’t been able to wrap my head around, sorry. I’ve seen a couple threads explaining the nuances of federation propagation, but it’s always just kind of flown over my head.
it’s apparently as soon as someone subscribes. there’s a script we can run to automatically populate comms.
I was aware of this, but am unsure of a really good way to search for that sort of thing. I’ve looked through the joinlemmy page and haven’t found much that really fits that, but it would be nice if there were someway to browse individual communities instead of just instances.
use the search to look for comms?
I’m trying by commenting on any niche community/post that pops up with constructive comments
It’s been good for other instances as well. @Nagarjuna@hexbear.net has helped someone not die over on !mycology@mander.xyz.
:confusion:
Why are so many of our comrades mushroom experts?
Well, if you want to grow psilocybin, it helps to learn the process on a legal mushroom like am oyster. And then you start to notice them on hikes and you’re like “what else is out here?” So you start looking things up and…
I’m not convinced they’re not just gonna eat that
Fair. Your contribution is none-the-less welcome.
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The additional Star Trek stuff has been an unexpected treat.
Shouldn’t you be more wary of the unexpected, Redshirt?
I’m feeling pretty confident these days. My CO says I’m up for a promotion after our next mission to the Murder Nebula.
startrek.website might be the only good thing that came out of the reddit protests
Semi-funny story: I had a comment deleted in one of their non-shitposting comms because I called JJ Abrams and Alex Kurtzman hacks. Apparently that wasn’t “nice” or “constructive”. I apologized, I didn’t mean to pee in their pool, but goddamn, how horny can you be for civility?
vivid descriptions of getting vored by a pack of anthro-hyenas
Holy shit
They won’t tell you this.
They don’t want you to know.
no more half measures walter
The girl reading this is great, actually
Despite probably being labeled a NATO sympathizer, I’m confused about your stance towards NATO and I wanted to ask a question:
Do you agree that Ukraine was invaded by russia, and that Ukraine has a right to defend itself? Are russia the bad guys in your general worldview?
NATO is a big part of the support for Ukraine, so I’d like to understand the people here and why NATO is disliked/hated.
Sorry if this comes across as trolling, I’ve found a lot of threads from CTH that I’ve enjoyed but I don’t want to jump in without understanding things first.
Do you agree that Ukraine was invaded by russia, and that Ukraine has a right to defend itself?
Ukraine certainly was invaded by Russia, but let’s be clear about why exactly Russia invaded. The US/NATO had been pushing for membership and for Ukraine to host US missiles. These things have been explicitly opposed by Russia since even before Putin was president, and this was the stated reason for the invasion. Imagine if Russia decided to install missiles in a country close to the US, like Cuba for example? This of course happened and the US freaked out leading to a tense nuclear standoff.
Also, since the invasion, US leaders have repeatedly stated that their goal is to pull Russia into a forever war in Ukraine. They have stymied Ukrainian attempts at negotiating and are not at all interested in peace or “democracy” for the Ukrainian people.
Are russia the bad guys in your general worldview?
Russia invaded and was wrong to do so, but the US/NATO helped instigate the war in the first place and continue to use Ukraine as a pawn for their own geopolitical goals at the expense of ordinary Ukrainians. Trying to frame it in terms of “good guys” and “bad guys” is absolutely wrong imo and oversimplifies what is really going on. The correct position in my view is to support negotiations that would end the conflict and allow ordinary people there to live normal lives again. This is something that the US/NATO has repeatedly opposed.
This is also in my opinion a good video on the topic and worth watching: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WZv0-0cx96g&feature=sharea
In addition to this, NATO has a pretty horrible history of involvement in things like rigging elections and supporting terrorist groups. Operation Gladio is a good place to start on reading about that: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio NATO is, and always has been, a tool of US empire and nothing else. Of course people here would oppose it.
Sorry if this comes across as trolling
nah, good faith questions never come off as trolling. anyone who wants to learn is welcome here.
so I’d like to understand the people here and why NATO is disliked/hated.
They are currently waging a hybrid war against most countries in the world. For every year of my living memory either NATO is bombing some place in the middle east, waging lawfare/starvation wars against countries in south america, or all of the above against someone in Africa. NATO is the sort of group that would rather see the peoples of Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger die of hunger rather than pay market price for their goods. NATO will continue to blockade Venezuela until their oil is owned by american shareholders. NATO has bombed half of the muslim world, and now insists that it’s leadership has been bought off by perfidious chinese money. And the Chinese, who played the game and followed the rules, even they must be cowed into poverty and submission.
It’s a defensive alliance between warmongerers, and I know that if NATO decided to stage nukes/troops against my people we wouldn’t be able to resist. Of course we stand with Russia. We wish we were them. We wish Libya could have resisted NATO. We wish Syria could resist NATO. We wish Iran, Cuba, Iraq, Venezuela, Afghanistan, Niger, Palestine, and so many others could resist NATO. We can only hope that China and Russia can, because if they can’t, we are truly doomed to NATO’s whims.
And NATO’s made it clear. We are the jungle. We are less than human. And we are treated as such.
What you see as double standards is just us trying to survive your governments.
g00d post
I noticed you consistently capitalized Ukraine and consistently used lowercase for Russia here. This kind of stuff was started by the far-right reactionary regime in Ukraine to further dehumanize Russians by refusing to recognize them as a legitimate people. You would do well to abandon this trend and properly capitalize Russia, acknowledging that Russians are in-fact human. Some people are lazy in their typing, but this seems to be deliberate in this case.
Edit: Checking your post history, there’s another instance of this from 7 days ago as of the time of this post. Russians are as human as anybody else, and shouldn’t be demoted to sub-human levels by refusing to capitalize the words “Russia” and “Russians”. Regardless of how you may personally feel about the Russian government’s actions, it’s not okay to deny recognizing an entire people’s fundamental humanity.
Edit Edit: Checking your post history from other instances reveals far more instances of this, all consistent. Point stands.
This is true. I don’t apologize for it (yet?), but I don’t intend to deny their humanity and I’m kind of shaken that it’s interpreted that way. Which is entirely on me, and I wanted to thank you for the shock because it’s a blind spot I don’t like to have. I obviously have some thinking to do.
Not capitalizing certain names is my personal choice to show that by their actions they no longer have my respect. For instance I do the same for the billionaires that are constantly in the news, and the ex president who has tried to steal the election.
My reasoning/feeling for applying it to russia is that their state TV shows constantly dehumanize Ukraine. Regardless of history and how the point was reached, russia invaded Ukraine and have stated clearly that they consider the state of Ukraine to simply not exist. Ukrainians have been tortured, raped, and systematically genocided by russia.
Respectfully, I understand that you or many here may not agree with those statements, but I’m not sure how to progress from there
How about you watch this video about what’s actually been going on in Ukraine, that Western media (including all their big tech proxies) has basically censored with a conspiracy of silence on reporting: Ukraine Targets Elon Musk, US Aid Dwindles, Ukraine’s Offensive Increasingly Depleted
What ever lack of respect you have for Russia (or anybody, for that matter), you should take that up in the form of airing your grievances in a precise and targeted approach to what exactly you don’t like about them or their actions. It is unnecessary to use lowercase when referring to a person or a people’s proper identity, as it suggests they are of a lesser or illegitimate race/status. There’s acceptable processes for showing you have a dispute with a person or entity (Russian government, for instance), and refusing to capitalize someone’s name or race isn’t one of them. You’ve been manipulated into a practice that is against people’s fundamental right of having their humanity recognized.
You seriously have to ask yourself if this is worth it, continuing down this path. Do you really want to be remembered this way?
and the ex president who has tried to steal the election.
Can I draw from this the implication that you respect
?
I don’t have a lot of respect for the democratic party really. Which is outright adoration compared to what I think of the republicans!
Not a libertarian either. I dunno, I don’t really fit in. Which isn’t some dumb “I’m not like the other
girlsvoters” crap, I just don’t agree with much…Lol I can’t stay away today it seems. Oh well, I’m a sucker for punishment I guess.
- I think that nobody needs to own more than a few million dollars.
- I wish guns were strictly controlled with stringent testing requirements, but seeing Ukraine stand against russia makes me wonder about that. And people need to be able to defend themselves against fascists in their neighbourhood, the police, and government. No idea how to solve that gordian knot.
- Any large group of people needs tough oversight to prevent the banal corporate evil of “somebody else’s problem” and passing the buck.
- Everyone has a right to shelter, food, education, healthcare.
- Women are the only ones who should make decisions about their bodies.
- Religion should be taxed and audited by people to make sure kids aren’t being abused, people aren’t being grifted, etc.
- Police must be professional public servants not paramilitary groups.
- Elected officials must conduct their affairs under a microscope of public scrutiny, including all bank accounts, travel, contacts, etc. Shit slap an ankle monitor on them and a bodycam.
- We should be a 2 planet species.
- But we should have to keep the planet pristine for the next 7 generations.
- Everyone should have the same rights.
- Justice must not be pay to win.
- Freedom of expression is great but social media should be adult-only and regulated. Skinner-box social media like tiktok should be illegal. We should protect our information space against foreign manipulation.
- Laws should be kept updated as new exploits are discovered. Laws should follow the country as it grows, not wallow in inequality.
Of course I’m forgetting a bunch of stuff.
Maybe I should just be Monster Raving Loony party instead?
Not a libertarian either. I dunno, I don’t really fit in. Which isn’t some dumb “I’m not like the other girls voters” crap, I just don’t agree with much…
Remember that you’re speaking mainly to communists. I hate the Republicans, the Democrats, the Libertarians, the Greens, and basically any party that you’ve likely heard of besides the larger communist parties (which are meh). Rejecting all the neoliberal parties is not in itself even slightly incoherent, and it seems that a rejection of the domestic aspects of neoliberalism are your strongest throughline here.
I agree with almost every bullet point as-presented, discounting the second one because you express ambivalence there anyway.
I think the “two planet” thing is silly because terraforming Mars is much more expensive, wasteful, and difficult than terraforming Earth, but I don’t think you’d split the party over that one. I also disagree about taxing churches, but I think there should be better standards for establishing a church and they should, as you say, be subject to regular auditing.
I furthermore think minors should be allowed on social media but that’s kind of a difficult question and there should be more serious age-gating. China has some interesting laws in this respect, actually, with accounts that are tied on the back end to your real-life identity but with that information not displayed to others. It makes it much easier to track down when someone says something alarming (e.g. a bomb threat, talk of being abused, etc.) while letting them have anonymity to their peers and avoid stalking.
But beyond that (and what I said are my personal opinions anyway), everything you said is consistent with common socialist platforms. I think, so long as you’re reserved in your communication style, you’d have a good time over on hexbear.net and people would send you reading/videos that you might find interesting and informative.
Here is a video that comes to mind as being relevant to matters that you discuss:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nPVkpWMH9k
And here’s a letter written by Lenin that I think you’d like (when Lenin says “liberal” he essentially means “capitalist” and “social democrat” is “communist”):
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
You are an excellent person, I’m thankful for our conversation and I appreciate you.
Aw, thanks. I’m glad I got to talk to you too
Laws should be kept updated as new exploits are discovered. Laws should follow the country as it grows, not wallow in inequality.
China by Numbers: Improvements to legal system over the past decade
A look at the country’s (China’s) progress in improving rule of lawFreedom of expression is great but social media should be adult-only and regulated. Skinner-box social media like tiktok should be illegal. We should protect our information space against foreign manipulation.
Facebook Targets Cambodia’s Prime Minister: A Lesson in Securing Information Space
This myth of other countries salivating for opportunities to penetrate and manipulate the US’ information space is complete projection. The US itself leverages its big tech companies’ de-facto monopoly on much (if not most) of the world’s information space, as Facebook and other US-based big tech firms operate globally and are used for what you’ve basically parroted about TikTok.
US media/social media platforms have always been used for war-like purposes, even domestically within the US. Every election they strong-arm dissenting views that contradict the narratives the capitalist class finds threatening to their legitimacy and the legitimacy of their system of liberal democracy. You don’t have to take my word for it, you’ll see it yourself as election season heats up again in the US.
If anything, TikTok has offered people (especially marginalized groups) an alternative that isn’t as vulnerable to direct US manipulation via the national security state. That’s why the US has hysteria over TikTok; because they can’t control it the same way that they can other firms like Facebook which are directly integrated into the various three-letter agencies (most notoriously the CIA and FBI, but also the NSA in terms of data collection and storage). Tiktok offers a place where working class people can more effectively dissent against the US’ tyranny without being censored, de-platformed or otherwise sabotaged so easily.
Edit: Your policy positions trend positively overall, so that’s comforting.
Not capitalizing certain names is my personal choice to show that by their actions they no longer have my respect. For instance I do the same for the billionaires that are constantly in the news, and the ex president who has tried to steal the election.
Nobody’s convinced by this weak excuse. You might as well just go all the way by saying “ruZZian” like all the NAFO fellas are doing.
I don’t find it very persuasive, but it’s a hill absolutely not worth dying on to argue against it compared to looking at the actual content of claims.
I’m not trying to convince you nor anyone. I presented what I feel and think, based on my experience.
Do you agree that the Ukrainian people had the right to defend themselves from the Ukrainian government while it was trying to kill them for being the wrong kind of Ukrainian? Russia didn’t just invade, they intervened in an ongoing almost decade long civil war.
There’s nothing good about Russia. It’s the same sort of neoliberal hellhole “democracy” as europe and america.
There’s nothing good about Russia. It’s the same sort of neoliberal hellhole “democracy” as europe and america.
Russia is a neoconservative dictatorship, period. The US is crony capitalist hell but it’s nowhere as bad as Russia. Try being gay in Texas or Ukraine and tell me it’s worse than being gay in Russia.
You’re using american definitions rather than human standard definitions of “liberal”.
It is a complex situation. Russia are definitely bad, and so are NATO. Both want the war. Ukraine is caught in the middle. NATO want to supply weapons and have prevented the peace talks from moving, even when Ukraine has wanted to. Russia has behaved predictably since 2014, made interests clear. Many are unreasonable, but this is geopolitics. Before conflict United States has encouraged violation of Minsk 2 and Ukraine to behave genocidally in eastern Ukraine.
Outside of this NATO is an imperialist alliance which was built by political meddling such as gladio. It is used as a tool to help United States wage war and death over the world for US corporate interests.
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If you understand that Russia is just doing the same thing America usually does it might start to make more sense. Western liberals rabidly defending Ukraine and calling Russia evil is amusing considering they have spent their lives benefiting from the same brutal practices on other countries.
But for a better understanding of this, Russia has for a long time considered Ukraine as effectively their territory or one of their puppet states, much like America does with others. What you are seeing with this invasion is the result of a slow erosion of this notion by western influence. Think of this as a long game aggression similar to how it would be if foreign powers convinced one of the United States’ territories to try to secede. That is what people refer to when they speak of NATO aggression. It is all about weakening Russia by removing one of their holds on what used to be their empire. Now they are moving to protect their interests.
You may cry foul at this, but the US would likely find reasons to invade one of it’s neighbors (Canada or the United Mexican States) if there was a communist regime change that was propped up by China. You would likely happily argue that the United States has the “right” to per-emptively invade and depose the hostile government to protect its interests. It is strange that you would accusingly ask if Ukraine has the “right” to defend itself, when it could be easily argued that Russia has the “right” to invade. Zelensky is seen as a regime change by Russia and they seek to depose him and bring Ukraine back into their fold.
Considering their prior status, it could be framed that Ukraine is fighting for it’s “independence” from Russia, but at the expense of becoming under the thumb of NATO and the rest of Europe. NATO’s ambitions for Ukraine are no more honorable than Russia’s, and it is the Ukrainian (and Russian) people that will suffer by being caught in the middle of bourgeoisie power struggles between superpowers. The depiction that NATO is merely helping Ukraine defend itself out of the goodness of their hearts is a disingenuous framing of NATO’s intentions.
In the end it doesn’t matter if a country has a “right” to defend itself, but rather if they are capable of doing so. Ukraine has been on paper an independent country after the collapse of the USSR but functionally seen as still property of Russia, at least notionally. That has weakened to the point where war has broken out. A key take away from understanding the leftist position regarding this war is that we are not very invested in it and don’t feel we need to pick a side, but if you really want us to pick a side, most often we will pick Russia. Not because we love Russia, but because we hate NATO.
But for a better understanding of this, Russia has for a long time considered Ukraine as effectively their territory or one of their puppet states
There is nothing in Russia’s actions that supports this.
If you look at the events leading up to the 2013 Maidan coup, it was very clear that the main wedge issue was the existing tariff-free agreement between Russia and Ukraine and with Ukraine signing the EU Association Agreement, it would open up the floodgates for EU goods to enter Russian market but not the reverse.
Putin did not object to Ukraine signing the deal with EU, simply that they had to work out the tariff issue, and if not, then Ukraine would lose its tariff-free status with Russia, which means a massive loss in trade revenue for Ukraine since Russia was its main trading partner. Putin wanted to talk with both Ukraine and EU but the EU said no, which led to Yanukovych delayed signing the deal with EU because he needed more time to work this out with Moscow - and by then the fascists coup had already been mounted.
What people don’t understand is that the EU Association Agreement was an economic warfare against both Russia (destroying Russia’s domestic industry) and Ukraine (forcing IMF loans and austerity on them).
The 2014 sanctions imposed on Russia due to its annexation of Crimea had effectively erased Russia’s economic growth of the 2000s, why would any country want to do that to itself?
At the end of the day, Russia is yet just another neoliberal state that wanted a stronger business tie with the EU, it doesn’t want to deal with Ukraine’s shit. The Western hegemon did not want Russia to be part of it, and especially with the cheap natural gas Russia was selling Germany and their increasing partnership that had seriously threatened America’s hegemony in Europe. And so, Maidan had to happen. Ukraine war has to happen.
Thank you for this.
In regards to your question, you’re more than welcome to stop by our news megathread and ask the same question if you don’t think you’ve received a sufficient answer here or wish to hear more information on the topic
vivid descriptions of getting vored by a pack of anthro-hyenas
Communist anthro-hyenas. They had standards.
well I’m not a furry, I don’t have a vore fetish, and I don’t watch Star Trek so there’s been very little net gain for me lol
do you not watch Star Trek because you know you dont like it or otherwise?
I don’t hate it or anything, just not my thing I guess
fair enough. Out of curiosity, what type of fiction is up your alley? Trying to improve my mental map of media tastes.
My favorite genre is probably horror, especially from the 70s and 80s. Mysteries and thrillers if they’re done well, or anything with a moody atmosphere. Big fan of David Lynch, Blue Velvet is probably my favorite movie.
I also like comedy, especially silly absurdist stuff like Wet Hot American Summer or Hot Rod.
edit: also dark fantasy stuff like Pan’s Labyrinth
Oh yeah, this feeling of coming home and starting to watch a David Lynch movie that started some unknown time ago. Real trippy. Then you watch it awake again and feel the same though. Lol.
Mulholland Drive is the ultimate fever dream movie