We have shown the whole world how bravely we can fight. Now, we will show how we can reform and modernize.
  • Munrock@lemmygrad.ml
    74·
    2 years ago

    I wonder if there’s going to be some sort of culture crisis across The West when reality hits, or if Western media is strong enough to distract everyone with something new like they did with Afghanistan.

    • ඞmir@lemmy.ml
      82·
      2 years ago

      Remember when Hong Kong was “winning”?

      Opened my eyes to the accuracy of the Western media

      • Munrock@lemmygrad.ml
        52·
        2 years ago

        Yeah same. I was there, and seeing what was happening and what was being reported was a huge WTF experience

    • 133arc585@lemmy.ml
      63·
      2 years ago

      I think they’re already trying to shift it somewhat, the anti-Chinese stuff has picked up a bit recently.

  • intelati@lemmy.world
    44·
    2 years ago

    Ukraine has basically handed the second “strongest” military aa stalemate. Which is a win IMO. Throw the might off the military industrial complex at the problem and banish the military for the foreseeable future.

      • IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml
        31·
        2 years ago

        Half of the US financial sector turn their organs of accumulation towards a war-torn proxy nation the US is almost ready to discard

        You, a genius: Ah, this must be because the proxy is winning.

        I have a bridge in South Vietnam to sell you

        • Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social
          11·
          2 years ago

          US investors don’t want to own property in an empoverished Russian puppet country. They want to own property in a wealthy, thriving Western puppet county. So yes, it’s because our proxy is winning.

          • IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml
            3·
            2 years ago

            Winning so hard that their big armored counteroffensive culminated with them losing ground lmao

            Vulture capitalists want to buy assets for liquidation at rock bottom prices. This was part of the western impetus for starting the hostilities in the first place. They were hoping to draw the Russian Federation into an endless quagmire to juice war industry profits and hopefully collapse the RF government to get another nice lucrative round of shock therapy. Since the economic warfare effort backfired, the US has been contenting itself with absorbing the western european energy market while stripping Ukraine for assets.

            • Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social
              03·
              2 years ago

              This was part of the western impetus for starting the hostilities in the first place.

              Whoa whoa whoa back up. I want to hear what kind of ridiculous mental gymnastics makes YOU invading a sovereign nation somehow OUR fault. This should be good for laughs.

              • 133arc585@lemmy.ml
                41·
                2 years ago

                Based on some of your other comments you come off as completely oblivious to the geopolitical history of the region.

                YOU invading a sovereign nation

                I’m almost certain the person you replied to is not on the front line on behalf of the RF, and I’m even more certain they had no say in the decision to invade.

  • DonaldTrump@kbin.social
    313·
    2 years ago

    Let me tell you, folks, those Ukrainians, they’re doing tremendous things with what they’ve got. I wish them nothing but the best in their efforts to keep the Russians out. Nobody understands the importance of tight border security better than I do, believe me.

    • Untitled9999@kbin.social
      24·
      2 years ago

      The real Donald Trump would probably stop supplying aid to Ukraine though, and thus force Ukraine to accept the loss of some of their territory. He’s said publicly that he would get the war ended as soon as possible if he was president again, and I’m sure this is the sort of end he means.

      Another problem with Trump is that he implied in an interview with Tucker Carlson that the US blew up the Nord Stream pipeline. I doubt this is true. I think Russia did it. Also, Trump didn’t even believe his own intelligence agencies who said that Russia interfered in the 2016 US presidential election.

      • FaceDeer@kbin.social
        65·
        2 years ago

        It’s heartening to see them being diluted away into irrelevance as the Threadiverse absorbs the users from Rexxit.

        • MercuryUprising@lemmy.world
          34·
          2 years ago

          Yeah the first few days on here were rough. I almost feel like it was deliberate to try and make this place unpalatable, but then again, I’ve met total knobs* like this in real life too…

          Edit fixing an autocorrected word

    • Rive@kbin.social
      115·
      2 years ago

      If you are really enjoying simping for a neo-liberal protofascist dictatorship, then stop calling yourself a “Marxist”

      • Navaryn@lemmygrad.ml
        722·
        2 years ago

        rather simp for someone opposing nato expansion than for a neonazi puppet regime staffed by people handpicked by the CIA. I swear you liberals refuse on purpose to understand that in the grand scheme of things the action of a “bad guy” can still be beneficial.

        Russia isn’t conquering the world anytime soon. So what would you rather have? a more multipolar world where russia has a relatively safe and solid position after showing that it won’t be bullied into submission by nato (with the whole world watching), or a world where russia is balkanized into several statelets without the political, economic or military strength to resist capitalist infiltration?

        We saw what happened last time russia got defeated. We lost a bastion of socialism, we saw tens of millions impoverished while a few capitalits dismantled everything that the USSR had built, and the whole thing ushered 40 years of hegemonic atlantist domination.

        So yeah, i am rooting for the “neoliberal protofascist dictatorship”. There is a reason why literally nobody in the global south sanctioned Russia. 75% of the planet is reasoning the same way i am.

        • Lols [they/them]@lemm.ee
          92·
          2 years ago

          id rather countries dont invade other countries because they felt ‘bullied into submission’ over said countries existing

          id also rather tankies stop pretending to have any kind of moral conviction or interest in some greater good or world peace behind their support of protofascist dictatorships invading other countries

          • monobot@lemmy.ml
            11·
            2 years ago

            id rather countries dont invade other countries

            So you don’t count Iraq, Iran, Yemen, good part of South America, Palestina, almost whole of Africa as countries and people or else you would be agains all western powers too?

            • Lols [they/them]@lemm.ee
              2·
              2 years ago

              can you cite the specific quote where i proclaimed my support for western powers invading iraq, iran, yemen, a good part of south america, palestina and almost the whole of africa

              is this deflection so people stop talking about russia doing the things youre supposedly against, or is having an issue with something because i have moral convictions as opposed to because the wrong team is doing it just incomprehensible

              very illustrative of my point either way, thank you for your comment

        • JerkyIsSuperior@lemmy.world
          74·
          2 years ago

          I swear you liberals refuse on purpose to understand that in the grand scheme of things the action of a “bad guy” can still be beneficial.

          Please tell me the benefits of running a genocidal war of aggresion for anyone that isn’t Putin.

          Russia isn’t conquering the world anytime soon. So what would you rather have? a more multipolar world where russia has a relatively safe and solid position after showing that it won’t be bullied into submission by nato (with the whole world watching), or a world where russia is balkanized into several statelets without the political, economic or military strength to resist capitalist infiltration?

          The “bullying into submission” is a paranoid fabrication of an increasingly unhinged fascist regime. Ukraine had no intention of joining NATO until this war, and now as a result of this fiasco even Finland has decided to join. And your usage of this particular phrase shows that this whole affair is Russia throwing a temper tantrum at its irrelevancy on the global stage. And if Russia is indeed balkanized into statelets (hopefully not, we don’t need even more nuclear quasi-states) it will be the fault of the guy currently pissing himself in a bunker near Kremlin.

          We saw what happened last time russia got defeated. We lost a bastion of socialism, we saw tens of millions impoverished while a few capitalits dismantled everything that the USSR had built, and the whole thing ushered 40 years of hegemonic atlantist domination.

          Once again, tankie, Russia is waging a war of aggresion. All they have to do to prevent their defeat is to turn their tanks around and go back to Moscow. But that would mean the surefire end of strongman politics and the fall of Putin, so gadflies such as yourself have to regurgitate propaganda. And lamenting the loss of USSSR, imao, the country that was so prosperous that it a wall had to be built in order to stop people from escaping it. Truly a workers paradise. Perhaps 80 years of economical mismanagement and political repression was responsible for its collapse, and not invisible NATO gremlins with sledgehammers.

          So yeah, i am rooting for the “neoliberal protofascist dictatorship”. There is a reason why literally nobody in the global south sanctioned Russia. 75% of the planet is reasoning the same way i am.

          The global South has neither the economical leverage, nor the political will to impose sanctions. They are staying away from this because they gain nothing from it.

          Please stick to posting on lemmygrad, you are embarrasing yourself outside of your echo-chamber.

        • Krause@lemmygrad.ml
          45·
          2 years ago

          We lost a bastion of socialism

          No you don’t get it, the USSR had red fascism and was secretly capitalist, the only way to build socialism is to support NATO expansion and back the US in the coming war against China for Taiwan.

          Once all AES countries are bombed back to the stone age the Western left will finally rise up and demand… more social democracy!

        • Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social
          34·
          2 years ago

          So what would you rather have? a more multipolar world where russia has a relatively safe and solid position after showing that it won’t be bullied into submission by nato (with the whole world watching), or a world where russia is balkanized into several statelets without the political, economic or military strength to resist capitalist infiltration?

          The 2nd one

          • CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml
            31·
            2 years ago

            Honestly we should balkanize the whole world. What’s even this leftist drivel about peace and prosperity. Go back to feudalism. It worked for 1000 years. Then we should balkanize what we balkanized too, just for good measure. I mean why stop at the first balkanisation, right?

          • Navaryn@lemmygrad.ml
            45·
            2 years ago

            At least we came to the conclusion that your thing is that you hate russia and its people and just wish them harm

    • Untitled9999@kbin.social
      127·
      2 years ago

      I just looked at Lemmygrad.ml. The rules on that site say “be respectful”.

      Your attached picture shows you are not respectful at all. You are supporting Putin, a dictator, who rigs elections, and who orders assassinations of political opponents (Navalny) and former Russian intelligence agents (Skripal, Litvinenko).

      And of course Putin has in no way been respectful towards Ukraine. Invading Crimea in 2014, and the larger invasion in 2022.

      So, you are being disrespectful towards Ukraine, and therefore you’re not embodying the stated rules and values of your Lemmygrad server.

      • Adlach@lemmygrad.ml
        52·
        2 years ago

        “Disagreement is disrespectful” is a fun take from someone who calls communists authoritarian.

      • CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml
        43·
        2 years ago

        Be respectful to your comrades. The rest of the rule which you didn’t copy: This is a safe space where all comrades should feel welcome. The rules only apply to lemmygrad,

        Source: me, an admin at lemmygrad.

      • tookmyname@lemmy.mlEnglish
        76·
        2 years ago

        That community will ban anyone who questions their Christi fascist oligarchy. It’s weird how a bunch of pretend communists can worship the an extreme right wing, genocidal, theocracy ran by oil tycoons who run around in yachts while the working class is thrown to meat grinder.

          • tookmyname@lemmy.mlEnglish
            21·
            2 years ago

            Yes I was. I mentioned Russia was involved in Syria and got banned. It was the only comment I made in that place. It’s ok, you sit have to believe you joined a weirdo cycle jerk. I don’t mind.

            • CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
              21·
              2 years ago

              Stop lying, the modlogs are open for everyone to see. You were banned from one community, not the whole instance, for defending NATO – not criticising Russia.

        • Rive@kbin.social
          36·
          2 years ago

          People like this is why I am very suspicious of everyone who calls themselves a “Marxist-Leninist” online, because chances are, they read neither Marx nor Lenin and are actually just fascist larpers

          • CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml
            4·
            2 years ago

            It’s true, I’ve only read Adorno and Gramsci but I said I read Marx once at a party and it just kinda snowballed from there and I couldn’t come clean after that, I was in too deep 😔

            Edit: oh and harry potter too.

        • fomo_erotic@lemmy.mlEnglish
          28·
          2 years ago

          basically the same as The Donald.

          19 yo edge lord thinking being extreme is cool

    • nexguy@lemmy.world
      45·
      2 years ago

      Wait… that bear is decked out in full combat fur and standard issue bear arms. No Russian soldier is that fortunate.

      • Krause@lemmygrad.ml
        53·
        2 years ago

        I guess this is why East Germans miss the GDR…

        https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/homesick-for-a-dictatorship-majority-of-eastern-germans-feel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html

        Today, 20 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, 57 percent, or an absolute majority, of eastern Germans defend the former East Germany. “The GDR had more good sides than bad sides. There were some problems, but life was good there,” say 49 percent of those polled. Eight percent of eastern Germans flatly oppose all criticism of their former home and agree with the statement: “The GDR had, for the most part, good sides. Life there was happier and better than in reunified Germany today.”

        • azimir@lemmy.ml
          23·
          2 years ago

          Around 1/3 of the GDR population fled to the DDR or other nations. If nothing else, the polling would be among those that remained.

        • Zyratoxx@lemm.ee
          16·
          2 years ago

          People miss the GDR because it’s antiestablishment and because a lot of people want what they don’t have. If the GDR was to exist again (and definitely after they made one or another fuck-up) people would want a united Germany again. This is the same reason why opposition parties usually fair better during the next election.

          • Krause@lemmygrad.ml
            54·
            2 years ago

            If the GDR was to exist again people would want a united Germany again

            True, but it would be the GDR annexing West Germany this time 😍

            • Zyratoxx@lemm.ee
              04·
              2 years ago

              I’ve got nothing against the GDR ideology wise but I value criticism. I want it to be heard, not repressed, because you can learn more from your critics than from those who cheer you and repressing it will not actually make anything better, but worse. And it saves you a lot of time and money that you can use on things that really matter.

              In general I’d prefer a government to be open towards criticism and transparent in their actions. I know that governments like this are practically non existent but let me just dream for a second.

              So if the GDR was more open towards criticism I’d take it back.

        • Akasazh@feddit.nl
          16·
          2 years ago

          the German wall came down when he was 10.

          And

          “Not even half of young people in eastern Germany describe the GDR as a dictatorship, and a majority believe the Stasi was a normal intelligence service,” Schroeder concluded in a 2008 study of school students. “These young people cannot, and in fact have no desire to, recognize the dark sides of the GDR.”

          It’s not hard to be nostalgic if you dream up an utopia. Then again most nostalgic thoughts ignore the reality, but these younglings coupled with boomers from the generation that voted brexit through in Britain are on another level.

          • Navaryn@lemmygrad.ml
            83·
            2 years ago

            says the guy cheering for ukrainian people to be sent to be slaughtered just to slow down russia and rake in some millions for the MIC

            • 50gp@kbin.social
              37·
              2 years ago

              nice projection, like I said if you love getting fucked in the ass by dictators move there yourself

              • Navaryn@lemmygrad.ml
                63·
                2 years ago

                lol i don’t “love” Putin. You can see that in my other comments.

                What i am saying is that your side is the one cheering for even more arms shipments so that even more ukrainians can be sent to die in an unwinnable war to “teach russia a lesson”. Literally no one here is arguing in favour of shipping arms to russia or supporting them in any meaningful manner.

                The truth is, that much like the collective west, the average slavic subhuman is just currency to you. Ukrainian authorities are on their 9th wave of mobilization, snatching people off the streets and literally camping outside of hospitals in order to catch men who go there to get treatment. Your side thinks this is cool and good because you just can’t allow russia to win.

                If your warmongering side wasn’t constantly pushing for escalation and arms shipments, the two sides would’ve negotiated a deal a year ago when the frontline froze.

                So, if you are willing to fight to the last ukrainian just to stick it to Putin, go there yourself. I did not want this war, i do not cheer for it, i do not wish to see it escalate. You do.

                • 50gp@kbin.social
                  22·
                  2 years ago

                  Russia can always preserve their military by going home, otherwise they can continue slowly but surely demilitarising themselves