noticing it more and more. i like to play retro video games but i don’t actually do it that often. 5 years or so ago i got a SNES mini and a playstation classic and one of those anbernac handhelds in the span of a year or two, so I was spending a lot of time reading lists online of games people thought were notable, underrated, good games for genre newbies, etc.

i have been playing games again recently so i have again been looking up games and the difference in content you get now is astounding. five years ago if you searched something like “best nes RPGs” or “obscure ps1 games” you would find lovingly handcrafted lists and articles by people who were passionate about it and wanted to share, make readers laugh, or ignite interest in something. Now there’s like 20 different sites that each have ai generated “best (genre) games for (system)” lists for every system and genre combination possible, with generic game descriptions, list orders likely cribbed from one of those ranking sites, and nonsensical filler copy (“every RPG enthusiast loves the N64” type words just mashed together)

photographs are also no fun to take or look at anymore, accelerated by new ai image generation but honestly ever since smartphone cameras started automatically editing the shot out of your picture before it even showed it to you.

when i was a kid i wanted to be an author, glad i just got depressed and useless and never pursued it, considering what that space looks like today.

internet was a mistake

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    it seems like every time i search for anything it comes up with a million ai-generated wordpress pages with the same basic structure. obviously being churned out as someone’s “passive income” scheme. I wonder if there is a search engine with a way to filter out all wordpress sites…

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      Good luck finding a recipe on the internet without sifting through mountains of SEO-focused treat printed imaginary stories about the heart-warming and life-changing experiences that lead up to the recipe.

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          I love to get my STANDARD CITIZEN ISSUE spatula and dollop STANDARD CITIZEN ISSUE sauce on top of my STANDARD CITIZEN ISSUE pasta.

          Seriously fuck Orwell with his boring monochrome dystopia bullshit. The real shit is festooned with bright colors and committee-approved names and fake anecdotes and that makes it even more haunting. All of the iron-heeled liberty crushing with gaudy infantalizing Stepford wives aesthetics. The people responsible should all be blindfolded and shot.

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      This predates LLMs and the current AI fad, but yeah it’s a pain in the ass. I think they’ve gotten worse because at least 10-15 years ago when you searched “X release date” the actual real release date was sandwiched somewhere in the autogenerated garbage.

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    it

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    SUCKS

    Like I know people have memed that AI conversation from Metal Gear Solid 2 to death, but my god is it more relevant than ever. Just this unending churn of junk. There is no humanity left online. There’s not much in the real world either. Fuck AI.

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    when i was a kid i wanted to be an author, glad i just got depressed and useless and never pursued it, considering what that space looks like today.

    I take some bittersweet satisfaction of completing my first novel trilogy just before the treat printer hype wave started. Maybe things written before the treat printer age will be like old boat steel left deep underwater that’s valued for its lack of irradiation because it was manufactured before the atomic age.

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    I like the rankings at snesrankings.com. I disagree to some extent or another with basically all of his takes, but I really appreciate that it’s just one guy who actually played every last one of the things, and it’s not like he’s ever so far off that, if you started playing from #1 down, I’d ever be like “oh no don’t play that play this other game.”

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      Thank you for sharing that site. I disagree with the order of some of the rankings, but I won’t argue that every single game in that top 25 is a masterpiece.

      Except for Legend of the Mystical Ninja. What the hell? That game stinks.

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        I haven’t actually played Legend Of The Mystical Ninja, but I have seen it appear near the top of many lists, where not a single one of those lists has done anything to convince me to actually try it.

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      Now I’m thinking of Weird Video Games where the guy listed a whole lot of games in a joking Top 1000 list that ended with a sudden shouting of “RYYYYYGAAAAAAAR!”

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    That reminds me of how AI art is so samey looking. It’s like everyone uses the same prompts and the same filters. I get that it was already creatively bankrupt but come on you have the power of the entire internet.

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      It can be used as a tool by artists to streamline mundane and repetitive tasks, but the most common and widespread uses really are just endlessly lazy and repetitive pandering slop (prompts like “yet another cyberpunkerino waifu” done millions of times over judging by the largest LLM communities) on such a wide scale and with such massive data centers dedicated to churning it out that it is already an environmental disaster.

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        I feel like even when/if it gets into art workflow, it’ll eventually be like what procedural generation was for video games. The flaws would just be too obvious and people would end up steering away unless even the “AI” component is bespoke and human crafted. I’m thinking of how the procedural generation if D2 was carefully tweaked so there was some level design consistency.

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          I feel like even when/if it gets into art workflow, it’ll eventually be like what procedural generation was for video games. The flaws would just be too obvious and people would end up steering away unless even the “AI” component is bespoke and human crafted. I’m thinking of how the procedural generation if D2 was carefully tweaked so there was some level design consistency.

          More often than not, we’d have lazy garbage like Starfield, except treat printer edition.

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            Yeah sadly you won’t get no man’s sky, where they work to fix what is broken about the process.

            Btw, I feel like the NMS arc is very similar to what ppl will have to do w AI slop. Like, you could take a prompt but then the amount of work to make it good is going to be massive.

            Credit to those devs tho, they’ve really delivered (years later) a great space experience

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      It’s because most people using image generation aren’t artistically minded, and aren’t putting in effort to get a result better than “close enough” (and corporate ai tools have built-in prompts to give things the “ai look.”) If you run an image generator locally you have more control over the output, with loras or whatever.

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    The labour theory of value applies to AI slop.

    Nobody wants to use their time on something that someone else wouldn’t use their time creating. People unconsciously value it based on the time and skill involved in creating it which is fundamentally fuck all. This is why there has been a very clear and obvious negative trend towards AI over time. Even if the AI became magically good people would still value it as slop.

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    i dont think this type of seo blog spam is particularly novel, its been a problem for probably 20 years. It’s easier to do now that you dont have to hire a bunch of people in the phillippines to write these articles though.