Yeah now I start to understand why people go mad over nvidias pricing I mean the 4090 costs like what 1500, 2000 bucks? Meanwhile the 6100 cheaper than the shipping cost y’all’re getting ripped off —shitpost
I actually have to build a new CPU… The last time I had built mine was in 2013 with an Asus i7which lasted quite a while until the whole Windows 11…non compatibility…
Now to look at socket type and see if my. Old casing can take it and yada yada …
I don’t want to go the laptop route since I still prefer desktop for gaming than laptops…
Holy shit How do you build a CPU
a beach, a plasma torch, and a very steady hand
Intel used to have decent naming…
60% or 60 percentage points ?
This is why I love Lemmy (it’s a reference to another thread btw)
That post is older than Lemmy
Wouldn’t that be the same thing with no other percentages in sight because we’re subtracting from 100%?
I have no idea, that was just a tongue in cheikh reference to that other thread
Power consumption is part of the equation now too. You’ll often see newer generation hardware that has comparable performance to a last gen model but is a lot more power efficient.
Or you’ll see something equally efficient and equally performing at the same power levels…except you’ll see newer gens or upgraded skus allowed to pull more power
Just don’t rent one from NZXT.
If you are blindly renting things without doing numbers you have bigger issues.
Always read and do long term calculations
Problem is that a lot of “influencers” advertise it to teens as an easy way to get a new computer.
I think that is more on the teens and there parents.
I saw a video on Gamers Nexus about how shitty a company they are. Hopefully word spreads amongst gamers & builders that they’re no good and they should be avoided.
What’s the deal with them? Only NZXT component i’ve had is my current case, which has awful airflow (old model of H710 I think, bought 5 ish years ago).
Apparently they very recently got acquired or invested in and are probably looking to increase profits tenfold in under a year so the company can be dumped before it all crashes.
Apparently their PC rental program is a worse value than illegal loans that are likely mafia-backed.
Meanwhile the data i care about, efficiency, is not readily availlable. I’m not gonna put a 350 watt GPU in the 10 liter case if i can have the same power for 250 watt.
At least TomsHardware now includes efficiency in tests for newer cards.Tell me about it. The numbers that I’m interested in - “decibels under full load”, “temperature at full load” - might as well not exist. Will I be able to hear myself think when I’m using this component for work? Will this GPU cook all of my hard drives, or can it vent the heat out the back sufficiently?
Temperature is meaningless unless you want oc headroom. A watt into your room is the same no matter the temp the part runs at.
That’s not correct, I’m afraid.
Thermal expansion is proportional to temperature; it’s quite significant for ye olde spinning rust hard drives but the mechanical stress affects all parts in a system. Especially for a gaming machine that’s not run 24/7 - it will experience thermal cycling. Mechanical strength also decreases with increasing temperature, making it worse.
Second law of thermodynamics is that heat only moves spontaneously from hotter to colder. A 60° bath can melt more ice than a 90° cup of coffee - it contains more heat - but it can’t raise the temperature of anything above 60°, which the coffee could. A 350W graphics card at 20° couldn’t raise your room above that temperature, but a 350W graphics card at 90° could do so. (The “runs colder” card would presumably have big fans to move the heat away.)
I wish this was data was more available. I got a GPU upgrade 6800xt and it’s so loud. I can’t enjoy sitting at my desk without hearing a loud whine and a bunch of other annoying noises. Its probably because the card is 2nd hand but still.
Maybe not cuz I have first hand 7900xtx and if I load it up it whines horribly lol.
GamersNexus has start add efficiency score in frame / joule. Also have full writeup of video on website.
I occasionally “refresh” my PC with new board, CPU etc. I never buy the top of the line stuff and quite honestly there is little reason to. Games are designed to play perfectly well on mid range computers even if you have to turn off some graphics option that enables some slight improvement in the image quality.
I agree. Another good trick: Don’t buy a 4K screen. GPU’s work for much longer that way.
For many games you can set graphics rendering to for example 1080p but run the whole game in 4k so text, menues and so on are super crisp but the game still runs very light. But maybe it’s good advice to never even start because I can’t imagine going back to 1080p after using 2k and 4k screens
And it sucks! Sorry, I mean it SUX.
Thousand times this. For actual builders that care about the nuance it all probably makes sense but then there is me over here looking at pre-builts wondering why the fuck are two seemingly identical machines have a $500 difference between them.
I’m spending so much time pouring through spec sheets to find “oh the non-z version discombobulator means this cheaper one is gonna be trash in three years when I can afford to upgrade to a 6megadong tri-actor unit”.
I’m in this weird state of to cheap to buy a Mac and can’t be arsed to build my own.
Just go here and check the charts for the kind of work you want the PC to do. If one looks promising you can check specific reviews on YouTube.
For gaming the absolute best cpu/gpu combo currently is the 9800x3d and a rtx 4090, if you don’t have a budget.
Yes the part naming is confusing but it’s intentional.
Yes the part naming is confusing but it’s intentional
Yes, that’s what people are upset about.
It’s funny that you wrote the wrong GPU name while agreeing that the naming is confusing.
Gamer’s Nexus
R*TX 4090
For very broad definitions of “convention”
I recently had to go through this maze. I hate it. And I’m glad that my PCs tend to live ~10y, this means that I’m not doing it again in the foreseeable future.
Naming conventions are somewhat consistent; it’s the pricing that has gotten a bit out of hand.
Is 5090 the model number or price?
Yes.
Fortunately there are resources that make a good starting point because I agree; naming schemes are a shit show. I generally start with this and go from there research wise. https://www.logicalincrements.com/
I’d be very careful relying on that site… just flipped through some of the build and it was very strange.
E.g. they were recommending a $500 or $900 CASE at the highest tiers - not even good cases, you can get something less than half the price with better performance. They recommended a single pcie 4.0 SSD and a SPINNING HARD DRIVE for a motherboard with pcie 5.0 m2 slots. Recommending CPU coolers that are far, far in excess of requirements (a 3x140mm radiator for a 100W chip? Nonsense). Memory recommendations for AMD builds are also sus - DDR5 6000 CL30 is what those cups do best with, they were recommending DDR5600 CL32 kits for no reason.
Just strange… makes me question the rest of their recommendations.
Mind you, recommending a PCIe 4.0 SSD is the one part that makes sense. Right now very few people will gain noticeable benefits from a PCIe 5.0 SSD, AFAIK. The rest though… yikes.
The price differential doesn’t really exist anymore, though. If they were recommending 4TB, then I’d agree (only a few 4TB 5.0 and they are quite pricey), but at 2TB you’re looking at like $10 difference between something like the MP700 and the SN850X they recommend (not counting all the black Friday sales going on).
Ah, good to know. Thanks.
…I just the other day ordered all the components to make the first “Extremist” tier build, nearly verbatim.
I guess I made some of the right choices, then.
