You just need 1 person you know working in a morgue. That’s enough to convince you that the last pandemic was really bad.
You don’t get it. They are part of the conspiracy. Same as all the flight personnel with chemtrails. Everything is a big conspiracy, except that Facebook post made by some anonymous account, that’s real.
This guy in my city had anti vaxx banners and signs. One said “50k+ Canadians suffered side effects from the COVID vaccine!”
So I looked up how many people were vaccinated in Canada, and 50k was below 1% of the people vaccinated. I pointed out to the guy that this means the vaccine had a success rate without side effects of 99% and how incredible that is. Dude got pissed at me and started yelling that I was a shill.
I guess he didn’t like math and common sense
Not to be that guy but 50,000 people is still a lot. Percentages are great because if they’re very low we tend to like that but it doesn’t change the absolute number.
The real comparison isn’t how safe the vaccine is, its how safe the vaccine is compared to getting the disease it’s preventing. Every medical product is not about zero harm or low harm, it’s about harm reduction. If medical therapies didn’t cause harm, we wouldn’t have chemo treatments and we would be much worse at treating cancers.
Also though that 50k side effects is vague, what did the sign mean? A side effect can be a mild headache or rash, which I would imagine is the majority of those cases. A 99% rate for any medicine is incredible
I’ve had people tell me and my friends similar things to this. Some people just aren’t good with numbers and can’t put them into perspective with other numbers and arrive at scary conclusions with no further context. Canada has 40+ million people and side effects can include trivial things such as feeling tired or having a sore arm. On a similar note, 2 of the COVID vaccines were mRNA based and some people were scaremongering about how the vaccines must somehow alter your DNA because both “mRNA” and “DNA” sound vaguely similar.
So there are actually levels to antivaxxers. The granola nuts that think putting anything into your body is a sin are actually the extreme minority or antivaxxers these days.
The average antivaxxer is someone who has extremely little faith in both big pharma and the government as a whole. They usually come from a community that has been screwed over by both. In the US, this translates to older first generation immigrants, the African American community, and low income white people in areas that were hit hard by the opoid crisis.
A lot of these people are cool with the traditional flu vaccine, because it’s been around forever. The covid vaccines on the other hand were met with skepticism, on account of it being “untested”. In their eyes FDA testing and positive media coverage don’t mean anything, because in their eyes both groups have lied to their faces in the past.
A lot of the antivaxxer discourse during covid frustrated me. While there were people who were legitimately just idiots, there were a lot of communities who had fears rooted in genuine trauma and frustration. Calling them a bunch of idiotic death cultists and then celebrating on social media when one of them died just resulted in those communities distrusting the system further.
The worst thing about it is that this kind of garbage is leaking out of the United States. US citizens are weird af and poorly educated.
At this stage, the people who still need to hear this are the people we’d like to get rid of, so that problem is probably going to solve itself
Those people often have children who’s only failure is to be born in such a family. Saying that the problem is going to solve itself is rather unempathic and will do quite some harm the said children of such people. (Just saying)
Don’t worry, this is just special retroactive abortionYeah sorry, I tend to get misantropic during the festivities. Right now doing harm to children is like you’re trying to sell it to me even more
Don’t worry, RFK Jr will ban them.
Just a reminder: Animal Agriculture is the leading cause of Zoonoses (PDF: The infectious disease trap of animal agriculture)
Eat a plant based diet to limit pandemics!
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Chuds will exacerbate the bird flu by engaging in every unnecessary behavior that can cause transmission just because somebody informs them not to.
Got a friend who’s anti vax because they said a couple of their friends didn’t get vaccinated and were fine, those who did get it suffered from covid and got very sick.
THAT IS TRUE!!!
But sadly there’s no vaccine for stupidity. The US desperately needs it.
There’s one.
Public well funded education.
Ok but then how do u explain the billions that died from the china virus vaxx jab huh huh huh
Are we supposed to vaccinate all the livestock? Isn’t that how these diseases are generated in the first place?
I’m pretty sure the carnist holocaust will continue pumping out new variants.
Uh… yeah? Where I live you can buy vaccines for your livestock at the general store. Treating livestock with antibiotics on the other hand is stupid and big ag really needs to stop doing it.
Yes…? We’ve been vaccinating livestock for relevant diseases since 1879, starting with Chicken Cholera.
https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/object-groups/antibody-initiative/veterinary
Isn’t that how these diseases are generated in the first place?
No, livestock diseases were a problem long before vaccination. In fact it’s been hypothesized that the reason Europeans killed off Native Americans with disease instead of the other way around is that European livestock spread so much disease that it meant Europeans carried and were immune to a wide variety of diseases.
As for why livestock diseases are so common, it’s probably due to the obvious - the cramped conditions, often in close contact with other animals. Think of the classic Chinese wet market with animals from many different places stacked in cages on top of each other with fluids flying all over. That’s the real bio weapons lab.
Given how much antibiotics they pump into livestock it wouldn’t be that weird.
But yeah, less intensive animal farming would likely also reduce spread & impact.
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My friend’s Mom was vaccinated for polio and then died of a gunshot wound.
After? Or of?
She doesn’t know. I guess even if that was the cause nobody would diagnose that because they want to keep their job, status
No. Vaccine researchers need this data. If the Vaccine killed him, they want to know, however the Vaccine causing a lack of oxygen doesn’t make sense.
Which vaccine company? If you don’t mind me asking
I don’t know, she mentioned it, I forgot
Nope I’m not getting a single mRNA vaccine, already have a few too much
Suit yourself. The gene pool can only benefit.
Well then at least have the decency to stay in your home, rather than subject us immunocompromised to another round of dodging a minefield of disease incubators.
Instead of a single, get multiple!
