• CriticalMiss@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    1 day ago

    The comments (and maybe the article too, I didn’t read to the bottom) are misinformation. This guy isn’t enabling Russian hacker groups. What happened is he ripped the BluRay and posted it online. Since it got a lot of hype Russian hackers decided to use that opportunity and ship a similar file ending in .exe instead of the usual Matroska format (.mkv) you see usually with ripped BluRays. If you were around torrent communities back then you know this to be false. These are your tax dollars at work, potentially jailing someone up to 15 years for ripping a BluRay.

    • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      25
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 day ago

      They are actually working as intended ie proetcting property rights of the parasite class.

      Once this little nugget clicks, american regime makes a lot more sense.

    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      22
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      One is running some nobodies over, the other making a rich person some pennies less rich.

      Must set a precedent, y’know?

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        14 hours ago

        on paper

        It’s making them less rich only if you assume pirated copies would’ve been sales. That’s generally not the case, and piracy can often increase sales by pirates recommending things to people who will actually buy.

    • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      57
      ·
      2 days ago

      Just goes to show how horrendous this sort of crime is. I hear dvd pirates are on the same cell blocks as pedophiles in prison.

    • Broken@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      2 days ago

      Goes to show, he should have made a run for it and hit a bunch of people with his car. Then he’d get a reduced sentence.

    • booly@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      2 days ago

      People generally aren’t sentenced to the maximum penalty for a crime, so it’s not very useful to compare the maximum potential sentence for a charged crime versus the actual sentence received after conviction on another crime. The Indianapolis hit and run carried potential penalties of more than 15 years. This DVD guy will probably get less than 5.

  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    2 days ago

    stole “numerous ‘pre-release’ DVDs and Blu-rays” between February 2021 and March 2022. He then allegedly “ripped” the movies, "bypassing encryption that prevents unauthorized copying

    How? Especially pre-release bluray?

      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        edit-2
        2 days ago

        No, i mean, bluray DRM is partly bound to keys and the player. Even blurays from 2020 often fail with libbluray and a newish player. I see no way to rip a pre-release bluray.

        DVD is a bit more tame with only CSS and no BD+ VM on the drive.

        For Details, look here.

        • CriticalMiss@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          1 day ago

          I’ve never ripped BluRays but from what I’ve been told by someone who is apart of a P2P release group the jist is there’s an exploit in Intel SGX that made BluRay protection obsolete and the tools to crack BRs are practically publicly available if you search around for a bit. The funny thing is newer CPUs/mobos don’t support Intel SGX, which is one way to stop it.

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            14 hours ago

            With libredrive flashed on your player. Let the player decrypt for you, and then copy the decrypted stream, no need to break any encryption…

        • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 day ago

          This isn’t a “piracy is bad” comment, this guy in particular was feeding media specifically to a group that repackaged malware into it.

          • WR5@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 day ago

            Do you have a source for that? This article does not say that at all. It simply says that the person in question ripped Spider-Man Far From Home, that movie specifically was available from a lot of different users and locations, also had some cases where it had dangerous malware packaged, and that could have come from a Russian torrenting site. Nothing links this person directly to that malware or Russians at all.

            • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 day ago

              The article says

              Soon it became dangerous to download the movie, though, as popular demand for the movie quickly put a target on downloaders’ backs and scammers soon planted malware in Spider-Man movie torrents that ReasonLabs reported used the movie to “lure in as many victims as possible.”

              ReasonLabs said that the malware was “likely from a Russian torrenting site.” It took over the would-be Spider-Man movie watchers’ computers without setting off Windows Defender and with the goal of cryptomining in the background for the bad actors’ benefit.

              It could be that the article is misquoting people and displaying a Bias, but I wouldn’t know.

              • WR5@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                1 day ago

                Right, but that specifically is not linking Steven Hale. So your original assertion that he is selling/supporting Russian malware is not substantiated by this article.

                • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  14 hours ago

                  Exactly. That will have to be proved in court, and just making something available for anyone to use as they please is not “working with Russian hackers.” They would need to prove actual collusion to make the malware-ridden version more accessible.

  • Singletona082@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    114
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    2 days ago

    Yes let’s not go after the south African literally fomenting the rise of a fashist takovet. Let’s go after the guy selling bootleg DVDs.

    • Maeve@kbin.earth
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      29
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      Just started to say I’m glad they’re focusing on the important things. 🙄🤮

    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      He didn’t get arrested for theft. He got arrested for being part of a distribution network that empowered Russian hackers.

      To be clear. Copying or downloading media is not illegal. Distribution is.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        14 hours ago

        Downloading is absolutely illegal, it’s just not really enforced because you need to prove criminal intent. You’re still accessing copyrighted material without a license, which is a copyright violation.

        Distribution has much higher penalties and is more likely to push people to buying (harder to find copies = potentially more legal sales), so that’s where enforcement is focused.

        • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          7 hours ago

          If you can present the law that makes it illegal to download, please do so.

          The laws of the USA make it illegal to distribute, but license violations are beef between you and a company subject to civil dispute at most (which is entirely uneconomic to pursue) AND technically you haven’t violated the license, the distributor has.

          In fact, Facebook downloaded millions of archived and pirated works recently but claim no wrongdoing because they didn’t seed anything.

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 hours ago

            Here’s the interpretation by the US copyright office in their FAQ:

            Uploading or downloading works protected by copyright without the authority of the copyright owner is an infringement of the copyright owner’s exclusive rights of reproduction and/or distribution.

            The enumerated rights of copyright owners are detailed in Title 17, section 106, with exceptions (e.g. fair use) described through section 122. The relevant portion is:

            (1) to reproduce the copyrighted work in copies or phonorecords;

            (2) to prepare derivative works based upon the copyrighted work;

            (3) to distribute copies or phonorecords of the copyrighted work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending;

            My understanding is that the copyright office is using 1&3 in their interpretation. So my understanding is that Meta is violating copyright by downloading copies of copyrighted work if their use doesn’t fall under the fair use claims.

            • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              2 hours ago

              Right, so the owners have their rights enshrined in laws to make copies, sales, and derivatives, but that doesn’t mean people other than owners are breaking a law by downloading a copy that a third party made and distributed. In fact, that text alone doesn’t make it illegal to make copies, derivatives, or distributions, that would instead be outlined in U.S Code Title 17 Chapter 5 Section 506 which says:

              §506. Criminal offenses

              (a) Criminal Infringement.—

              (1) In general.—Any person who willfully infringes a copyright shall be punished as provided under section 2319 of title 18, if the infringement was committed—

              (A) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain;

              (B) by the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180–day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000; or

              (C) by the distribution of a work being prepared for commercial distribution, by making it available on a computer network accessible to members of the public, if such person knew or should have known that the work was intended for commercial distribution.

              (2) Evidence.—For purposes of this subsection, evidence of reproduction or distribution of a copyrighted work, by itself, shall not be sufficient to establish willful infringement of a copyright.

              (3) Definition.—In this subsection, the term “work being prepared for commercial distribution” means—

              (A) a computer program, a musical work, a motion picture or other audiovisual work, or a sound recording, if, at the time of unauthorized distribution—

              (i) the copyright owner has a reasonable expectation of commercial distribution; and

              (ii) the copies or phonorecords of the work have not been commercially distributed; or

              (B) a motion picture, if, at the time of unauthorized distribution, the motion picture—

              (i) has been made available for viewing in a motion picture exhibition facility; and

              (ii) has not been made available in copies for sale to the general public in the United States in a format intended to permit viewing outside a motion picture exhibition facility.

              (b) Forfeiture, Destruction, and Restitution.—Forfeiture, destruction, and restitution relating to this section shall be subject to section 2323 of title 18, to the extent provided in that section, in addition to any other similar remedies provided by law.

              (c) Fraudulent Copyright Notice.—Any person who, with fraudulent intent, places on any article a notice of copyright or words of the same purport that such person knows to be false, or who, with fraudulent intent, publicly distributes or imports for public distribution any article bearing such notice or words that such person knows to be false, shall be fined not more than $2,500.

              (d) Fraudulent Removal of Copyright Notice.—Any person who, with fraudulent intent, removes or alters any notice of copyright appearing on a copy of a copyrighted work shall be fined not more than $2,500.

              (e) False Representation.—Any person who knowingly makes a false representation of a material fact in the application for copyright registration provided for by section 409, or in any written statement filed in connection with the application, shall be fined not more than $2,500.

              (f) Rights of Attribution and Integrity.—Nothing in this section applies to infringement of the rights conferred by section 106A(a).

              (Pub. L. 94–553, title I, §101, Oct. 19, 1976, 90 Stat. 2586; Pub. L. 97–180, §5, May 24, 1982, 96 Stat. 93; Pub. L. 101–650, title VI, §606(b), Dec. 1, 1990, 104 Stat. 5131; Pub. L. 105–147, §2(b), Dec. 16, 1997, 111 Stat. 2678; Pub. L. 109–9, title I, §103(a), Apr. 27, 2005, 119 Stat. 220; Pub. L. 110–403, title II, §201(a), Oct. 13, 2008, 122 Stat. 4260.)

              As with your quote from the FAQ, the entire section says:

              Is it legal to download works from peer-to-peer networks and if not, what is the penalty for doing so?

              Uploading or downloading works protected by copyright without the authority of the copyright owner is an infringement of the copyright owner’s exclusive rights of reproduction and/or distribution. Anyone found to have infringed a copyrighted work may be liable for statutory damages up to $30,000 for each work infringed and, if willful infringement is proven by the copyright owner, that amount may be increased up to $150,000 for each work infringed. In addition, an infringer of a work may also be liable for the attorney’s fees incurred by the copyright owner to enforce his or her rights.

              Whether or not a particular work is being made available under the authority of the copyright owner is a question of fact. But since any original work of authorship fixed in a tangible medium (including a computer file) is protected by federal copyright law upon creation, in the absence of clear information to the contrary, most works may be assumed to be protected by federal copyright law.

              Since the files distributed over peer-to-peer networks are primarily copyrighted works, there is a risk of liability for downloading material from these networks. To avoid these risks, there are currently many “authorized” services on the Internet that allow consumers to purchase copyrighted works online, whether music, ebooks, or motion pictures. By purchasing works through authorized services, consumers can avoid the risks of infringement liability and can limit their exposure to other potential risks, e.g., viruses, unexpected material, or spyware.

              For more information on this issue, see the Register of Copyrights’ testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

              Statutory Damages are civil. Risk of liability for downloads means it isn’t certain. There are no criminal proceedings for downloading copyrighted media, it isn’t illegal.

              In fact, it’s actually even more lenient than I had expected, you STILL don’t qualify for criminal charges even if you cost the real copyright owner $999.99.