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git [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 9 days ago

State Department slashes fee to renounce US citizenship by 80% to $450

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State Department slashes fee to renounce US citizenship by 80% to $450

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The State Department has slashed by about 80% the fee for Americans to formally renounce their U.S. citizenship.
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  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    It’s funny when their desires conflict with their economic brain worms. They want liberals to leave the country and renounce their citizenship, but even though more of them would do it if the process was free they can’t help but try to make money off of it.

    • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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      gotta recover some of that lifetime tax revenue

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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        They don’t! $450 is an insignificant portion of a lifetime of tax revenue, and they don’t even need tax revenue because the government is not a business and doesn’t make money from taxes. There’s no actual rational explanation, these are brain worms.

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          because the government is not a business and doesn’t make money from taxes

          so you’re saying taxing the rich doesn’t make sense?

          • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.netM
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            Correct. Taxing the rich and doing what with it? Bomb more schools? Funding and allocation is not the issue with the US and social services. If the US wanted to fund them they would be funded. The issue is that the rich need people to be poor and desperate so that the rich can use the poor to keep themselves rich. Taxing them doesn’t solve this.

            Eating the rich solves this.

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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            Taking their money makes sense.

            EDIT To clarify: Not as a way to fund anything, but because they should have less money.

  • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    The virgin citizenship renouncer vs the chad guy who just doesn’t pay taxes

  • Hestia [she/her, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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    So if I renounce my citizenship I won’t get arrested for treason, just espionage?

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      They’ve abducted and arrested non-citzens who have never worked or lived in the US and charged them for treason in the past.

      Julian Assange is an example of someone charged with treason. Does it make sense? No. Do they do it anyways? Yes.

      This is a rule-of-law country, unlike those backwards countries like Iran.

  • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]@hexbear.net
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    This is a trap. You shouldn’t renounce your citizenship. Even as someone that hates the U.S, for now, a U.S citizenship protects you from near certain abuse of other statuses, like being a greencard holder.

    • Muinteoir_Saoirse [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      Renouncing your citizenship is nearly exclusively done by people who want citizenship in another country that does not allow dual citizenship. You have to file to renounce your citizenship of countries with dual citizenship bans

    • MeetMeAtTheMovies [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      I think it can make more sense in some cases for people who are living abroad and already do have dual citizenship. I don’t know the specifics of that though. Are people actually renouncing their citizenship as a political statement?

      • Ekranoplane [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        America is like the only country that requires you to pay taxes to them even if you’ve been living and working entirely abroad.

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          Mandatory filing, even if you don’t owe any additional taxes to the US. It’s obscene.

        • Flyberius [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          What if you just don’t pay them?

        • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          there are also banking reporting requirements for american citizens to disclose some information to the US government about their personal/non organizational accounts, sometimes making it difficult to get a bank account in another country as an american citizen if the bank lacks the infrastructure for compliance. i could have sworn i read about it somewhere.

        • Jabril [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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          I think you are exempt up to like $120k if working abroad

    • XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      nobody’s intentionally renouncing citizenship without having another passport already

    • SickSemper [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      I don’t think it’s for people in America, they’re trying to encourage emigration (genius economy move)

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    damn now i have to stop saying that nothing good has happened in this country since roe v wade

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    Is China accepting refugees?

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      No but you can get a job or study there or start your own business there

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        Unfortunately too old for undergraduate studies there.

        • Jabril [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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          Different schools have different age requirements but a year long language course at a university might still be on the table regardless of age and can get you a student visa

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          i wasn’t aware they had an age limit 😞

  • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    US State Department about to start marketing stuff like Harbor Freight

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    fuck, i just paid the higher fee

    • hellinkilla [they/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Maybe if you argue enough they’ll price match

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    Not on anyone’s fucking life. I was born here, I will die here, and I will fucking live here to spite all you fascist motherfuckers. I don’t care if I’m the last American living in a continent of magma and fire, I’m fucking staying.

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