Get in here losers
We’re dunking on everything
Data-driven Understanding
Zero data
very good paper, well done
are my feelings data?
This idea is strengthened by reports of r/GenZedong (a tankie subreddit) showing aggression towards Uyghurs online.
Oh gee, that sounds awful! I wonder what that was about?
“As an American, I am very proud of working for the US government in Guantanamo…”
Oh my god, how little self-awareness can a person have? Accusing China of having secret concentration camps while proudly declaring employment at a known, verified torture facility.
I stg every time I check the receipts on “far-left hate speech” it’s in response to like, “Hi, my name is Nazi McFedstein and I love torturing minorities.” How hard is it to make a wrecker account in a leftist space and then cite your own account saying something fucked up? They just don’t even care because they know their audience won’t follow the links because it fits their confirmation bias.
lol I remember right after we federated there were tons of people complaining about getting banned from here. They’d complain about dog piling, about how they’re getting harassed, how they were just talking normally and didn’t do anything wrong and were suddenly banned. And you’d look at the modlog and it was always something transphobic or racist they said, then reiterated multiple times
god i hated that time but also loved it. these
were incensed at being banned for ‘doing nothing’Oh yeah they’d post a meme with no context and get thousands of upvotes and then you check the modlog and it’s
Rushan Abbas debacle is probably the only time mainstream reddit had a good reaction, IMO certainly because it was so cartoonish and incompetent to a level that(at that time) it was impossible to defend. These days the reaction would be completely different, pretty much blue MAGA would be like “oh yeah so what they’re also actualy literaly a fed agent? Don’t you know that is required training for understanding how to use and spread Western Values?”
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However, when it comes to everyday societal challenges that are usually points of interest for the left wing—like policing, climate change, healthcare, housing, and workers’ rights—tankies seem less engaged.
Really huge “I clicked on a couple of memes and did no further investigation” energy radiating from this sentence.
They can’t identify “tankies” when they’re engaged on those topics because the only method they have of defining a tankie is as someone that supports AES and opposes the state department’s line.
Everyone who isn’t visibly a tankie is just a regular marxist to them. And everyone who is saying anything the supports AES or opposes hegemony is a tankie and not a regular marxist.
They don’t realise they’re the same thing behaving differently in two different settings. Marxists aren’t ranting about aes and stalin when talking about unionisation ffs.
I love they don’t even label every color they use
It’s true that not all the Muslim countries give a shit about Muslims - see gulf states, Saudi Arabia - but anyone with half a brain should be curious why even the most pragmatic, business oriented Muslim countries aren’t willing to side with the US despite the latter basically funding their existence, or why only white countries that participated in wholesale slaughter of Muslims for 2 decades are the only ones who “genuinely” care about Muslims.
Or if they’re extremely liberal, ask why the fuck Mike Pompeo and other GOP officials are concern trolling about the welfare of Muslim prisoners in a rivaling country given their views on Muslims at home and in the Middle East
Against China: Imperialists, colonizers, white supremacists
On China’s Side: All the actual Muslim-majority countries
- “Race traitor” definition of tankie (AES citizens aren’t described as tankies, Communist leaders today and historically aren’t identified as tankies. only westerners who admire the former categories can be tankies)
- Study is entirely focused to reddit communities (a platform used exclusively by losers and cranks)
- “Data Driven understanding” but it’s just the authors own conjured impression that Tankies care more about “state-driven events” and not “policing, climate change, healthcare, housing”. Author should choose a random PSL branch instagram and see what they post about if they believe this.
“Acceptance of X narratives” - 
making a conclusion based on analysis. Fuck, just because you disagree with someone, doesn’t mean you can write them as if they’re not reasoning, coherent, analytical agents. this baseline applies to chuds too if one was to seriously try and understand them also.
Rather than highlighting concerns over detention and genocide, they portray the situation in a less severe light, e.g.:
Go back to watching Vaush
Aahaha these fuckin losers, these nerds get a load of this
What is a Tankie? The term tankie has seen several shifts in its connotation over the years. Originally, it was a pejorative label for communists who supported the Soviet Union’s interventions in Hungary and Czechoslovakia. Yet, its contemporary application is much broader. Today, the term refers not only to pro-Soviet hardliners but also to those who back China’s policies on matters such as the Uyghur genocide and the Hong Kong protests. A recent study by Petterson portrays tankies as: “regard[ing] past and current socialist systems as legitimate attempts at creating communism, and thus have not distanced themselves from Stalin, China etc.”
Just pathetic. What is this CIA-ass website? I’ve never seen or heard of it before.
Anyway, extremism is when you take a principled stance against verifiable, undeniable genocide
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My problem is the amount of heavy lifting done by that “etc.”. If you don’t want to be an authoritarian tankie you have to distance yourself from a person, a country and stuff like that.
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They often opt to use the nomenclature ‘Communist Party of China (CPC)’—Beijing’s preferred language—over the more colloquial ‘CCP’ […] Overall, there’s a clear inclination in tankies’ dialogues towards viewpoints aligned with the CCP (or CPC in their vocabulary).
Brain legitimately spilling out of their ears.
We find the tankies’ usage of ‘Zelensky’ aligns with the r/DemocraticSocialism’s usage of ‘Trump’. This parallel suggests a certain scepticism or opposition towards Ukrainian sovereignty within the tankie community.
Wow! I had no idea it suggested this. Care to explain why opposition to a Western puppet who shakes the hands of Nazis and wears their merchandise means scepticism/opposition towards Ukrainian sovereignty (in a data-driven way)? Of course not. The “parallel” drawn is so shallow and meaningless. “This subreddit doesn’t like Trump, these people don’t like Zelensky, waow is there a common link here in that both of these groups don’t like separate people?” And then nothing is done with this comparison?? Filling the word count to the brim.
If I actually wrote something this bad and shallow I would at least forget to put my real name on it.
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more colloquial
more colloquial to who?
more colloquial to WHO, motherfucker??Libs love to (correctly) bring up that Republicans made a point to refer to the Democratic Party as the Democrat Party, solely because it sounds worse. They will then turn around and laugh at the idea of using the CPC’s correct name.
If you don’t call a square a triangle you’re an extremist sweetie.
They needed to build off of the word association with the CCCP otherwise people wouldn’t get mad enough on their own.
These are the same people who scream at you if you spell it Kiev
Their positioning, further to the left than subreddits like r/communism, r/socialism, and r/Anarchism
I like how they use informedtankie as their first example of a tankie space, then act like /r/communism and /r/socialism are somehow less so? All three literally share moderators, and have shared many former moderators who are now spread across hundreds of projects on the site.
It’s so fucking badly researched. They know literally nothing about socialists or the fact that among marxists there’s very little issue with “tankies”. There is no separation or division. They seem to think that there is.
They’d have a fit if they realised Corbyn upholds AES, advertises the Black Panthers, or Dianne Abbot defends Mao on national tv, or John Mcdonnel waving around Mao’s little red book in parliament. Like wtf do these people not know what marxists are? It’s like they have literally never encountered actual socialists before and really only have a particularly vague understanding of any of this shit. I can’t think of a single marxist figure in the mainstream (for a marxist) that wouldn’t fit their definitions of “tankie” if they ever actually inquired as to what any given marxist believes. The only real difference between any of us is our position on China diverging between ML, Trot and Maoists, which isn’t really that divisive at all.
The only group that anyone really has any beef with are the gonzaloites.
they have literally never encountered actual socialists before and really only have a particularly vague understanding of any of this shit
This was me until I was like 25 years old - though in my defense I wasn’t writing news articles about them.
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Data science is easy when you can just ignore relevant data that disagrees with your predetermined result.
This is the person calling you a tankie
this is the person calling you a tankie
this is the person calling you a tankie
teleports behind you
While you were reading theory I was internalizing state department press releases.
While you were posting online I was the one reporting them.
While you spent months going outside and touching grass for your own ‘sanity’ I was using ‘data’ to make graphs about internet posts
Nothing personal, kid
When your sword costs so much, you can’t afford a belt…
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Tech companies must recognise and respond to the adeptness of groups like tankies in evading moderation efforts. Developing advanced content moderation tools that can detect and mitigate the spread of extremist rhetoric, irrespective of its political orientation, should be a priority. Collaborative endeavours between researchers and tech platforms can lead to the development of more robust and unbiased moderation systems.
HALT CITIZEN, YOUR POST DOES NOT SUPPORT THE NEOLIBERAL CENTRIST NARRATIVE, YOUR FICO SCORE HAS BEEN REDUCED BY 100 POINTS
lol the only way that they’d get away with this is if liberals try to convince everyone that class discrimination against the rich is bigotry on the level of racism or sexism. I guess they’ve already tried this. Hexbear was created after reddit banned violent rhetoric against slave owners.
They’d have to set up a framework where wanting a violent revolution against the capitalists is extremist, but calmly rationally talking about the need to evict poor people from their homes isn’t extremist.
They’d have to set up a framework where wanting a violent revolution against the capitalists is extremist, but calmly rationally talking about the need to evict poor people from their homes isn’t extremist.
They already have this part down
New political compass dropped
Nobody worth their oxygen has ever posted a graph like this unironically. Completely unreadable
don’t know what BunkerTube is, but if it’s a subreddit devoted to a growing movement of vaguely Hoxha-aligned video essayists that would be lovely.
Networks are notoriously difficult to visualize. All you can really say with a chart like this is “we have graph data”. I’m reading through the actual paper now.
It made me think of the spryograph art set I had when I was a kid.
Tag yourself, I’m lowercase c communism because it’s further to the left than those “Communist” liberals
Dune heads get in here. New map of the Golden Path just dropped.
It’s like they got a toddler to scribble crayons on some paper and then just threw labels wherever. More deranged than any nonsensical graph ever dreamt up.
liberals: IM NOT OWNED IM SO DIFFERENT THAN A CONSERVATIVE
At least it put a liberal on the right, where it belongs.
No Nazis on this map, though. Trash.
Utkucan Balci (@utkucanbalci) is a Ph.D. Candidate at Binghamton University and a student researcher at iDRAMA (The International Data-driven Research for Advanced Modeling and Analysis) Lab. His current research interests include understanding online communities and how they break up into more divergent subcommunities.
Michael Sirivianos (@msirivia) Associate Professor of Computer Engineering and Informatics and the Dean of the School of Engineering and Technology at the Cyprus University of Technology. He serves on the Board of the CYENS Centre of Excellence and researches ways to help social media users tell lies apart. His research interests include the trust-aware design of distributed systems, device-centric authentication, federated identity management, discrimination based on personal data, cyber safety, transactional workload scalability, and measurement of blockchain systems
Jeremy Blackburn (@jhblackb) is an Assistant Professor in the Dept. of Computer Science at Binghamton University. Jeremy is broadly interested in data science, with a focus on large-scale measurements and modelling. His award-winning research into understanding toxic behaviour, hate speech, and fringe and extremist Web communities has been covered in the press by The Washington Post, the New York Times, and Infowars, among others.
Assuming at least the last two of these people are libertarians who think the left is the real menace to be worried about. Imagine putting in your bio that your work has been covered by fucking Infowars.
work has been covered by fucking Infowars.
phrenology… on the blockchain
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explores online spaces where modern tankies gather and spread their extremist ideology
I am vomittting extremistly.
Fucking nazi fucks. Imagine thinking GenZedong is extreme. The liberal encounters someone with beliefs and convictions. They cannot comprehend it. Their world shatters in to a kaleidescope of possibility. Horrified, shaken, they cling to the only thing they know; change is impossible and anyone who wants to change anything is insane and evil.
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“Anercho”-capitalism, the ideology for business school incels, is closer to feminism than to Objectivism (a synonym for “anarcho”-capitalism).
This makes sense. I’m a very serious big boy data driven think tank thinker.
When a think tank is afraid of plagiarizing the political compass.
Are those supposed to be subreddits?
the amazing thing is that they use this as evidence that tankies are extreme left because they are the farthest left (except whoops Communist is in the center)
except whoops Communist is in the center
Yeah I’m a centrist
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Feminism, feminisms, radical feminism, and anarcha-feminism
