To be fair, I don’t think the gag order included attacking the judge

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    Why even issue a gag order that will obviously never be followed if there is no intent to follow through?

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      They just gotta keep up the illusion of consequences for Trump. Fines (which will never be collected). Gag orders (which will never be enforced). Bans from business and finance dealings (which will be reversed). But hey we’re doing something!

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        It’s infuriating. He gets treated with so much deference and kid gloves, and he’s still acting like he’s being persecuted. And the worst part is that his base eats it all up.

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          Someone should sprinkle some drugs on him. Worst case, he has to deal with Eric sniffing him for a day.

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        I’m surprised they don’t just declare that he paid the fine successfully rather than go through all that trouble to lower it.

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      It’s embarrassing at this point. “Don’t make your Trumpanzees send death threats to my clerks.” Donald makes his Trumpanzees send death threats to the clerks. “Oh, okay, you can post a much smaller bond and have some more time to get the money.”

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        “Ope, jeepers gosh, looks like you’re still having trouble with it, we can setcha up with a zero negative-interest payment plan there so once yer done makin’ those payments, you’ll get a li’l reward to getcha back on yer feet”

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      The gag orders lately have been leaving out the judge, prosecutors, and their families. Wouldn’t want an appearance of bias. What’s a few death threats between friends?

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        As I understand it, it reduces the chances of an appeal if they don’t include themselves in the gag order.

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          Yeah that’s definitely what they’re going for. It just seems like a huge overcorrection. There is way too high of a chance that somebody gets killed by one of Trump’s supporters. What appeals court is going to throw out a conviction because the judge tried to protect themselves and the prosecution from political violence instigated by the defendant?

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            What appeals court is going to throw out a conviction because the judge tried to protect themselves and the prosecution from political violence instigated by the defendant?

            If their luck doesn’t hold, and they get another judge whom we know values politics over the law but hasn’t been impeached yet, they want to make sure to leave as little to interpretation as possible.

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        They might be waiting for the people to finally do something about it. The government is infiltrated with members who put the well beings of very few over the majority of the people. We are improperly raging against the machine

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      Gag orders have narrow definitions so as not to infringe upon 1st amendment speech Trump gets around this by raging at every every person in the periphery of the specific gag order. Can’t talk shit about the jurors or the court clerks? Well judge such-and-such, you didn’t say I couldn’t say anything about you or your daughter! So he spews his vitriol at them and gets away with it. That’s why he got slapped with like 3 increasingly more broad gag orders during the NY fraud trial. Telling Trump to shut his mouth is guaranteed to elicit a reaction.

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        Judges have already verbally reprimanded him for violating the gag orders and then do nothing to actually hold him accountable, just issue another toothless gag order. What did those 3 gag orders accomplish when he just kept violating them?

        Normal people are put in contempt when they violate judges orders multiple times.

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          Oh, I agree. I would have loved to see actual enforcement of all of his previous gag orders, especially when he immediately turns around and violates it thoughtlessly. It just seems like he’s always on the fringe of a technicality or simply given a verbal reprimand and the courts are willing to let him off the hook as a result. Every single time.

          Nothing could convince me more that we are living in a society with a two-tiered justice system than watching this madness unfold. It does not seem to matter how obviously guilty Trump is, the system was designed to give rich and famous people the benefit of the doubt every step of the way. His evasion of justice and open mockery of the law are infuriating to no end.

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    Judge: “Don’t do the thing or there will be serious consequences.” Trump: Does the thing anyway. Judge: Does nothing. Trump: Smirks.

    Judge: “I’m serious this time. Don’t do the thing again or there will be serious consequences.” Trump: Remembers what happened last time, does the thing again anyway. Judge: Does nothing. Trump: Smirks.

    Judge: “I’m super duper serious this time. Don’t do the thing again or there will be serious consequences.” Trump: Remembers what happened last time, does the thing again anyway, says “what are you going to do about it?”. Judge: Backs down, Does nothing. Trump: Smirks.

    Judge: “I’m super duper serious this time. Don’t do the thing again or there will be serious consequences.” Trump: “Fuck off, I’ll threaten anyone I want.” Judge: Backs down, does nothing, again.

    The next judge: “That’s it, this is your final warning!” The media: “The courts are sick of this! They’ll put a stop to this next time!” Everyone else: Presses X to doubt. Trump: “Fucking lol.”

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      Seriously. I say again: Trump will die outside of any prison or jailhouse, having never been locked up, likely without even an ankle bracelet, of natural causes, while living a 1% lifestyle.

      We should all be dialing back our expectations, fucking dystopian and infuriating as that may be.

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      Why is this “innocent” man constantly attacking the children of the court staff? Why the children??? Hes pretty consistent about it too which is also strange and extremely dangerous.

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        Because children can’t defend themselves or fight back legally, whereas the judge can. Trump knows the judge has to maintain his veneer of impartiality so he doesn’t open Trump to an easy appeal, so he’ll threaten and attack the people around him instead. It’s the old mob trick of “well gee, if Bobby ain’t getting off, well…”

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    If Trump went after my daughter and I were the judge on his case, he’d immediately go to jail and be fined to the maximum extent.

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      Agreed. I admit I may be looking for a reason to justifiably put him on ice for a bit, but I’m astounded at the restraint of a judge when a figure with a history of weaponizing hillbillies targets someone uninvolved in the current case. Even mafia didn’t target the innocent relatives of doomed wiseguys.

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      There’s literally a law for this and he’s one of it’s proponents, dude cried for years when people even mentioned barons martian looking ass. For real dude looks like a grey in a skin suit and that’s coming from a fellow tall lanky white dude.