it’s how she describes herself lmao

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    i have to stop myself from becoming too reddit trans but it’s hard when i basically have no real trans people to talk to for 90% of the week so reddit memes are my only real way to interface with being trans

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      to be clear: there is nothing wrong with being reddit trans. people are annoyed about it becoming so big, but it’s not like there’s actually a problem with enjoying catgirl praise kink memes or whatever. do what brings you joy

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        oh absolutely. i spent $22 on a pair of really nice thigh highs and they are worth every cent. I bought a whole case of pink monster energy too because it looked trans femme and don’t regret that either

        • Thigh highs are nice. Granted, the pair I got as a programming socks meme is the pair I wear the least. Mostly because avoiding attention at work while waiting stripped pink socks is probably harder, but wearing just regular solid colored socks under my pants means I don’t have to feel my pants as much - its was extremely rare for me to wear pants except for dress code just because I dislike the texture.

          Anyways, reddit is what lead to me questioning my gender and I’ve spent plenty of time in places like egg and tra and I’m a weeb who’d definitely take being anime-cat-girl if that was a realistic option that wouldn’t lead to social ostracization. And I’ve made programming socks joke elsewhere as well. OTOH, skirts kinda “meh” imo.

          I don’t think sometimes making such jokes or liking certain things alone makes someone “reddit trans” when they can still have normal conversations and don’t project their preferences onto others.

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          that new ruby red flavor of monster is not only my new favorite, but the can also has trans colors and has little cat faces on it. they knew what they were doing and i’m not ashamed to say it’s working.

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      lmao i was considering posting that here later

      Try and stay away from Blanchard jokes if I can help it, but once you come up with ‘deadliest warrior style infographic comparing battle stats of AGP vs. HSTS’ you simply have to shoehorn it in

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      the terms HSTS and AGP have melted my brain. whenever i feel any sort of attraction to women i think to myself “certified AGP moment” and then feel disgusted with myself

      i used to be bi but i’ve psyop’d myself into being het

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        Blanchard is a quack, his ideas could never be backed up with any clinical evidence, there is nothing that indicates a meaningful difference in the transness of straight and lesbian trans women and bisexuals or asexuals do not even exist in his model. The entire concept is a lesbophobic gatekeeping plot by a horny chaser bastard and if you come across a psychologist that still believes this, it’s a good reason for trans women never to be alone in the same room with him when the door is closed. I’m unfortunately not joking, the last remaining Blanchardian in my state is a massive sex pest. These are the kinds of people we’re talking about.

        But let’s assume for a moment they are correct and liking girls makes me a confused fetishistic man. Given that the women i date are all transbians as well, that would make all of us gay men. Which would in turn make all of us HSTS. Which would then make all of us lesbian. Which …

        You see how none of this crap makes any sense at all?

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          Blanchard is a quack, his ideas could never be backed up with any clinical evidence, there is nothing that indicates a meaningful difference in the transness of straight and lesbian trans women and bisexuals or asexuals do not even exist in his model. The entire concept is a lesbophobic gatekeeping plot by a horny chaser bastard and if you come across a psychologist that still believes this, it’s a good reason for trans women never to be alone in the same room with him when the door is closed. I’m unfortunately not joking, the last remaining Blanchardian in my state is a massive sex pest. These are the kinds of people we’re talking about.

          oh so it’s “vaccines cause autism” but for trans women

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        iirc in the blanchard lore bisexuality is explained by “meta attraction” I.e. you’re just attracted to the idea of yourself being more feminine by being with a man.

        hot take but I think being “agp” is not bad or pathological any more than being trans is. Cis women get to enjoy feeling/being perceived as hot without it being a mental illness, why shouldn’t trans women

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          AGP is obviously an anti-trans slur, not a description of an actually existing sexual phenomenon. The only people that ever apply it to cis women are trans women making a joke. What you’re describing is just called “feeling sexy”

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          hot take but I think being “agp” is not bad or pathological any more than being trans is.

          Maybe we can just leave this AGP shit out of conversations about trans women entirely. Nothing is gained from using a harmful, completely fucked, brainwormed gatekeeping term and applying it to normal human behavior.

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            the problem is pathologizing and shaming behavior that doesn’t actually harm anyone- it doesn’t matter what specific term you use to do it, hence why the term “agp” is in quotes.

            i was trying to push back against the common rebuttal of “we’re nothing like those gross perverts Blanchard writes about” because it leaves room for the transphobes to move on to something else. it concedes too much! Imo people should be allowed to transition because they have a right to as a matter of bodily autonomy, not because they fit within some abstract standards of behavior.

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              Ok, i get it now and i largely agree that a certain “do i want her or do i want to be her” mood is extremely common among cis women as well, and i particularly agree that transness isn’t something to be diagnosed in the first place. I also think that both of these arguments are among the many, many good reasons to discard the term AGP in its entirity. I just read the quoted part as you actually arguing within AGP discourse, the way it’s worded is just a bit ambiguous.

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                i mean i pretty much was, op admitted to having brain worms around the term so i was trying to suggest re-examining/reclaiming it from that angle

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      im irreversibly brain broken from some chaser coming into my dms on another site at one point and mentioning AGP in passing and me innocently asking what that meant and being exposed to it from some chaser who went on to ask me for feet pics powercry-2

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        I mean I’m not super deep into the world of trans social media but I kinda thought that was a thing everywhere. Hell I feel like I used to see a decent amount of it here.

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          yeah it’s seen as a reddit thing because it was so dominant on r/traa. it existed everywhere but there’s been some pushback against it. you will mostly not see actual rejection like pictured in the comic, which is a humorous exaggeration, it’s just seen as slightly cringe

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                  conflate womanhood with a couple of choices in clothing

                  i don’t think it’s intentional but this is a deeply transphobic way of framing things you find cringe

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                  People on this website will really upbear one of the most stock transmisogynist catchphrases out there just because the hypothetical group of trans women targeted by the phrase have been hit with as unserious a label as being “reddit”

                  Like it’s perfectly understandable to not pick up on “the plight of the femboy” type rhetoric as a dogwhistle but this is literally just the most stock harrassment trans women get hit by on twitter but with a reddit label crudely stamped over it.

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                  Actually most of the callouts come from truscums and other assimilationists who police other transfem’s gender expression because they’re afraid cissies may find it cringe and tbh your take about “conflating womanhood with a couple of choices in clothing” is an outright carbon copy of terf talking points.

                • Wanted to clear up a few misunderstandings about my beliefs.

                  Some misunderstandings I think some people had:

                  1. I was complaining about fictional characters being called trans

                  No. I agree its annoying when people insist that characters aren’t trans. Characters like Ruka from Steins Gate and Ferris from Re:zero are common examples where its seems pretty obvious the characters are, yet people whine when people suggest that they’re trans representation or relatable for trans people. And even when Bridget was confirmed trans, there were still plenty of people who still refused to acknowledge that. Such complaints are transphobic and I’d never agree with them.

                  I think an adjacent assumption people made is that I’m totally against suggesting to a real person that they are an egg when they do things that suggest they’re eggs. I’d personally think I’d have preferred someone to have said something when I’ve made pretty obvious comments, so I’m not a strict believer in the “prime egg directive.” OTOH, even if I think someone is an egg, if they ask to be gendered a specific way, I’m always going to respect their request (unless they’re just obviously being transphobic, such as asking to be identified as an attack helicopter). Personally, I talk about how I think my mom might be an egg online and how her transphobia is the primary thing keeping her from realizing it. I don’t want to deal with her transphobia, so I have a hard time trying to talk about these things with her. I think Mafumafu is case of a celebrity whom I wonder if they might be an egg, but as long as he says he’s a man, I’m going to address him as such. I’d love to find out otherwise though. I don’t think reverse-transphobia is a thing, so I’m not suggesting its equivalent misgendering trans people for not conforming to stereotypes.

                  1. I was suggesting trans women are not women

                  Pretty clearly answered this already by saying otherwise. But I’m going to repeat it here: trans women are women. Whether someone conforms to local stereotypes for women or not have no bearing on whether they’re women.

                  1. I’m a cis man/femboy

                  Ironic seeing a comment calling a trans fem person a man and implying I’m a femboy being upvoted. I don’t blame the user, but no one thought to correct them? Pretty confident I’d have noticed if someone as active as I’ve been the past few weeks up to my ban was being misgendered like that.

                  1. I think badly of egg_irl/tra users.

                  The only reason I left is because of the reddit API and IPO stuff. I’d still be there otherwise and generally liked them (the trans communities were the main thing I missed about reddit). I’m not a fan of compliments personally, so I tend to avoid giving compliments: giving compliments feels like it is genuinely insulting. So, I have a tendency to make fun of things I like or consider myself a part of instead. Works better IRL because tone gets loss in text and people lack the context to understand that actual meaning. I do think reddit as a platform tends to push up cookie-cutter responses (“THIS ^”) that people feel rewarded for by karma, so certain things get a bit spammy. But the same is true across all of reddit and not intended to be a serious insult of the individuals who participate in such (including myself) and the spammy nature can still be fun (at least for a while). I personally found the weekly egg joke aimed at a specific IRL person who has asked repeatedly to be gendered otherwise distasteful, but not a serious offense. This is what I was referring to in the main sentence people took contention with. My intended point was people should have their gender respective regardless of how they’re presenting at that moment. If I wanted to complain about something seriously, I’d have brought up how often trans men were misgendered on accident.

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    i left my catgirl reddit trans phase long ago in order to enter my esoteric trans dog girl phase but i will always have respect and love for anyone who would be labeled “reddit trans”

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    I don’t think the reddit descriptor really works out if you apply it to yourself. The self-awareness required to do that prevents it from being true

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    internalized transphobia?

    is it bad to say that reddit trans type people make me actively embarrassed to be trans? is that pick-me behavior? i don’t want to be a pick me but good god it is so cringe

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      It’s pick-me behavior if it makes you embarrassed to be trans. It’s based if it makes you embarrassed to be familiar with Reddit culture

    • There’s all kinds of odd stuff, immature behavior, fetishes, neurodivergence, walks of life, backgrounds, beliefs, etc. in the queer community. If someone is doing stuff that you find cringey, don’t take that on yourself. These things are not transness itself and we’re not a monolith.