• kellenoffdagrid❓️@lemmy.sdf.org
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        Yeah but it’s not that accurate, and it leaves most normal mobile users out of the picture. I know YouTube knew exactly what they were doing when they removed dislikes, but it still seems absolutely insane to remove such a useful tool for sifting through the bullshit.

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      It was removed because Biden got too many downvotes. It’ll be back soon. It was stupid of them to take it away.

      • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        That’s not why it was removed

        It was removed not long after one of their Rewind vids was disliked to hell.

        And it ain’t coming back, at least they haven’t so much as hinted at it

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          Nah, that’s what they told you and you believed. Don’t be a fool for the media. It’s a bad look.

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              I talk truth in my own thoghts. You speak lies in talking points you were told to say. And you do. Be smarter. Don’t follow the herd.

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                I am glad to see that in his personal bankruptcy, Alex Jones has decided to spend the free time here on Lemmy…

                Welcome to have you, Ale, I can’t wait to hear more about the chicken fried steak that God talked to you through.

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                Alright, why do you think that google would remove dislikes becausr of biden

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                  I don’t think it. It’s true. The reason is because they were pushing his agenda. They’ve already admitted that. They removed it because he was getting too many. Just because you disagree doesn’t make me wrong because that is straight truth.

          • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            Whoa this guy’s badass.

            He knows what’s really going on, and it just happens to always be opposite of whatever “the media” says.

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                Ooooh boy it must feel super special to have this secret knowledge that nobody else but you can seem to keep up with. Almost as if it’s bullshit.

                Tell me, based my one reply to you, who am I following? Is anyone who disagrees with you automatically a “follower”? That would seem a little too convenient, no?

                The fact is you’re a basic-ass, run of the mill contrarian. Most of us have learned how to deal with people like you in our real lives, but it’s always a little bit sad to see someone who clearly doesn’t have anyone in their life to tell them to shut the fuck up every now and then.

                So here, I’ll do everyone a service: Shut the fuck up.

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    So now we have to read a community note to know a video is garbage instead of just seeing a massive dislike bar and clicking off?

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        The removed the dislike count a couple years ago, so you can no longer see if a video is terrible.

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            Works surprisingly well even after all this time. I often forget its been removed.

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            It’s not real though, you do know that right? There isn’t some hidden dislike count that YT has that the extension can access.

            I imagine it’s taken from other users of the extension clicking the dislike button. A biased and wildly uneven sample. I would not put much stock in it at all.

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              Can confirm it is real, I have it installed right now via revanced, Grayjay, and Firefox extension.

              Also, I have a terrible imagination, but that’s OK, as it’s open source and you can see how it’s calculated on their github.

              It takes the ration of likes to dislikes from users of the service, and applies that ratio to the total number of likes to estimate the total number of dislikes.

              It also archived a lot of video’s dislike counts before the dislike field was removed from the API.

              As a user of the extension who knows how it works (no thanks to yourself), take it with whatever sized grain of salt you feel comfortable with.

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              It is real, it’s just not data from YouTube. The information on how it works is made very clear, and people using it should be aware of the drawbacks.

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          The thumbnail and title alone is typically enough to know how garbage it is.

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        The dislike bar was real, I’ll tell ya, I’ve lived nigh on eighty years and me own two eyes seent the dislike bar clear as day! Ye better believe, sonny, it’s the truth!

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        I don’t see what was wrong with the comment of /u/voyajer. Can you elaborate?

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        Yeah, the dislike bar used to be a thing. You could see how many dislikes there were compared to likes, all represented on a line below the two buttons. It was sort of like this image, except imagine the “yes” and “no” as a single line (but retaining their separate colors).

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          Wait till you tell him youtube used to have a 5-star rating system

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          which is unfortunate, i think YT does it to save paid labor on moderating comments, but this allows video posters to upload misleading info and delete correcting replies, which also pairs well with hidden thumbs down

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            It also allows uploaders to stop hate filled posting, like incels trashing the comments on anything positive about female characters in media.

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              It also allows uploaders to stoke hate with their videos and delete reasonable takes and people calling out misinformation in the comments.

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              Honestly, I’d rather the channel have the first say here. It would be even better if some independent mod team could override channel owners though if there are enough reports.

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                Enough reports is how brigades are effective.

                There isn’t a great solution that solves all the possibilities, it is a difficult problem. An independent mod team sounds great until you get into the details of how they are formed and the fact that they are people too who might miss nuance or hold their own shitty opinions.

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                  Sure, but a manual review is way better than any form of automated system. To combat brigading, the mod team could issue temporary suspensions if that’s deemed to be the case, and full bans if the behavior is repeated.

                  It would be quite expensive for YouTube to do that, so it’s not happening. Best we’re getting is some automated nonsense, probably based on AI.

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        And Youtube will 100% allow creators to hide notes, as well. Corporations will not allow themselves to be criticized on their own pages.

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      I value my mental health too much to regularly dive into the YouTube comment section

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        I must be watching different videos than the people complaining about YouTube comments. The ones I see are virtually all positive.

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          Don’t just look at the comments. Look at the replies to the top comments. 8 out of 10 times they turn super toxic super quickly in my experience.

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        Yeah clearly training data does get much review for these peasant facing products. I am assuming real tool will take legions of pros to properly tune up.

        The issue not LLM per we, the issue is that none of these clown companies appear to do Amy data quality control. They just rush whatever janky thing they got to drive headlines.

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      Damn I miss those. Nowadays it’s really hard to find a video that’s in another language and has subtitles. The only subtitles you will find are the automatically-generated ones, which suck

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        They’re at least understandable (usually), but they’re like 5-10 seconds behind the video (sometimes longer), and they can be difficult to interpret at times.

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          They’re only about 90% accurate and usually that’s better than nothing, but sometimes the little bit that’s wrong is very confusing

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    This sounds like a great spot for scammers to flood for maximum visabilty. It’ll be too much effort to moderate, so creators will just disable them (if they can) or this will be shut down in about (checks YouTube’s history of dealling with scammers) 3.5 years.

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    I mean, if this is basically Twitter’s Community Notes feature, but for YouTube, I’m all for it. Bit of a balancing act, but it’s the last thing that hasn’t been completely wrecked now that Twitter became Xitter.

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    I give this about two weeks before they realize that it’s as effective at helping their advertising as having dislike buttons are.

    I am not condoning poisoning of this well of information, but I will laugh my ass off when it inevitably occurs.

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      I condone poisoning this feature with false info. maybe it will teach them that the dislikes should be public again. using an extension is cool and all, but so many people still don’t know about it.

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      It really is unfortunate as it COULD be a really good feature if it were being implemented by someone who wasn’t just trying to crowdsource AI training data that will go into commercial products without compensation to anyone. It could be a great tool for professionals and experts to expand on what creators say, a way to call out falsehoods and Hypocrites, and a way to find your people in a world that is growing ever bleaker. But no, it is just being done to force more ads down our throats and harvest more money from us.

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      And, once they discontinue it, I hope someone creates an add-on to bring it back like they did with dislikes.

      It’s a bit out-of-scope, but it’d be a great SponsorBlock feature!

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      Advertisers working in your native language cannot hijack your attention when foreign language videos are running. Subtitling facilitates that, and encourages site activity that differs from consumption, such as broadening one’s horizons and being inquisitive about the real world.

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    lol, considering the “quality” content in the comments section it’s just going to be a continuation of that dumpster fire.

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      I would never go as far as to say that they’re “quality,” but I do think YT comment sections aren’t the complete shitshow that they were a decade or so ago. It really does depend on the channel though too.