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        People rarely use them in real life, but ISO 8601 and RFC 3339 (both are almost identical) are the most natural ways of writing date and time. Just like how we write numbers, their components are written from left to right in the decreasing order of significance: yyyy-mm-ddTHH:MM:SS. I like it by default for precisely the reason you mentioned - sorting. It even helps quick visual comparisons.

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        If it weren’t so ingrained, I would be permanently using YYYY-MM-DD instead of DD/MM/YYYY.

        Works great for east Asia, and it sorts!

        I’d also like to advocate for using 24 time in speech.

        See you at 21 tomorrow :)

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          Just don’t care and use them. People understand them. Maybe they’re not used to hearing it, but it doesn’t matter. This is what I do and never cam across someone who was so dense that he didn’t understand me. I also never had someone tell me that it was strange to do so.

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        We wouldn’t in America in most cases. I’d say it’s August 9th 2023. I honestly feel like this is such a dumb argument to have because it doesn’t matter except for communication with people who use other methods. Now metric vs imperial makes way more sense to me because the metric system is just so much easier for mathematical conversions.

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          In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade—which is 1 percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. An amount of hydrogen weighing the same amount has exactly one mole of atoms in it. Whereas in the American system, the answer to ‘How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?’ is ‘Go fuck yourself,’ because you can’t directly relate any of those quantities.

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            I like how Europeans pretend they’re all scientific, but then still use seconds, minutes, and hours without thinking twice.

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              Lmao Europe is not the only place where they use metric (I’m not European).

              Seconds are part of the metric system and are the base unit of time. Just because they didn’t define it initially doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist or makes sense. They use milliseconds and kiloseconds; minutes and hours are used for convenience but are not part of the SI

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          Which extrapolated, who the fuck would say “the September of 2024” and not “September, 2024” for example

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        Look it’s easy, you just wait until the 13th of the month to figure out which format it is. Is 12 days really so much to ask?

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            Also changing it to periods doesn’t avoid confusion about the order. Also pretty sure we fought a whole war over not being like the Germans, so…

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              It’s quite simple really. The order is “small to big”. You start with the smallest unit, in this case the day. Then follows the next largest unit, the month, and finally the year. Basically the same as in the top picture, but in reverse order.

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      The first isn’t ambiguous at all; the second is hella ambiguous.

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      No, the second one says “Sept. 8th 2023” and that last panel is obviously British (you can tell by the teeth) /s

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      I was unaware of this. But it uses the same logic as the British date format so I am okay with it.

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            He’s making a pedantic joke. Lower case m is sometimes used to indicate minutes.

            Albeit a weak one since many formats use lowercase m to indicate month. Such as programming languages like python & PHP. IBM & Microsoft standards also use lowercase m and so forth.

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              I did think he might be making a joke but since as you said it would be a weak one I gave him the benifit of the doubt

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              Yeah it’s a bit mixed bag. Powershell command get-date expects mm for minutes and MM for months, which has messed up my scripts logging few times lol

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    Last two are both dumb, YYYY-MM-DD or DD-MM-YYYY or go home

    Yes I’m American

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      The last one is ambiguous because it could be either august ninth or september eigth.

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    I swear, a lot of you would have no joy in life if you weren’t able to bitch about the stupidest shit.

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      If you it’s the stupidest shit then you never tried to figure out why you can’t log in to VPN for 2h just to realize password expired week ago but you looked at the date and thought you still have 3 weeks till expires

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        Which is why written down or typed without a format prompt I use “12 Aug 2023”

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        I use Fahrenheit just because it’s a pain to get everything set to Celsius and other Americans don’t understand it. But I use grams, kilos, millilitres, kilometres, etc. Yes. And if someone asks me to guess the length of an object I will give centimetres, and refuse to translate to inches and their stupid fractions.

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          Yes. And if someone asks me to guess the length of an object I will give centimetres, and refuse to translate to inches and their stupid fractions.

          Some proud neckbeard shit right here. “Fuck communicating effectively with people. They don’t even know I only use the metric system!”

          But yeah, got em… I guess.

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            I kind of get it, it’s like language immersion. How do you easily describe anything besides the freezing point and boiling point of water in an objective way? The rest, you can point to and say “this weighs a kilo” ot “this holds a liter.” And if you don’t force people to use it, they’ll simply refuse. And we all carry handy unit conversion tools with us wherever we go these days, so if they don’t want to learn, they can easily translate it themselves.

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          So you use Fahrenheit because Americans don’t understand Celsius but you don’t convert to imperial for them if they don’t understand? That just seems inconsiderate as it’s really no trouble at all