This has been a doozy of a year. And it’s the best year so far blah blah. So how are you all coping? Does it hit anyone else like a bolt of lightning that probably I - we - won’t die of old age?

  • safesyrup@lemmy.hogru.ch
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    2 months ago

    I don‘t. I‘m accepting that i, as an individual, will not be able to impact it and so i‘m pretty much going with it. Humanity will survive, thats for sure but i make sure to make the most of it in the time where it‘s still bearable.

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        2 months ago

        Some humans somewhere will survive. We’re the most adaptable and intelligent species on the planet

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          We’re the most adaptable and intelligent species on the planet

          Which makes all the other life on earth really sad if you think about it. /s

          It’s easy to fall into doomerism, but the truth is we are incredible in taking immediate dangers head on. We just happen to be shit tier in doing something against anything vague in the future. A human TPK, without tapping into SciFi, is out of the question.

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          2 months ago

          We are the most intelligent, not the most adaptable by a long shot.

          That also doesn’t guarantee anything, we are smart not capable of impossible feats of magic. If the situation is irreversible that’s what it is and you die. The end.

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        Nah. It’s only been around a very, very short time and it won’t remain much longer despite probably being one of the longer stints the planet’s seen of life so far. We should still get to punch MAN into the high score screen and be seen by other players later on, like we saw with DNO.

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        2 months ago

        My guess is humanity will, but society probably won’t, at least not in or near it’s current form.

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      I think I’m on an accepting phase too.

      I’ve been through a lot personally and emotionally since I started reading about collapse 9 years ago.

      I had a look at this publication a few years ago, it put me in a rough place for a few days.

      Recalibration of limits to growth: An update of the World3 model

      https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/22b9ba56-4ef1-49a6-8587-887bd74a0701.jpeg

      Humanity will survive I’m certain of it, however our thermo industrial civilization will not and most of the people currently living in the planet will not.

      It will happen whatever I personally do.

      The best I can do now is to find ways to have the happiest life I can using as little ressources as possible for my family, my community (neighbors, friends …) and me. It’s a process that forces us to reassess a lot of things we were doing but it is fascinating.

      Practically it means finding ways to lower our monthly expenses, try to consume local as much as possible and learning a lot of new techniques…

    • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldOP
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      I am educated in science and I do not think humanity will survive, no. Most megafauna will probably die out. There are ~10 planetary boundaries and we’ve crossed a lot of them. Earthquakes and volcanoes will start picking up. AMOC collapse could be as soon as 2025.

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          Earthquakes and Volcanic Activity has been tied to sea level and air pressure changes. So one leading theory is that climate changes will more likely than not cause more activity, however the last year has shown no such changes yet Source on last year activity

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        AMOC collapse could be as soon as 2025.

        No. I also read that. There was a prediction that AMOC collapse might be inevitable by 2025 and take a couple centuries to happen.

        We have pretty good evidence the currents are slowing, but no real data to predict if and when it might stop. A couple researchers made a prediction that is not currently accepted by the field. It’s just pretty dire, but would affect a few generations from now even if true

        • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldOP
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          No, it won’t take a couple of centuries to happen, you misread. The collapse will most likely happen before 2050 according to new research which speeds up the timeline on the old research. The various environmental fields do actually agree on this and it’s accepted.

          The impacts of an AMOC collapse would leave parts of the world unrecognizable.

          In the decades after a collapse, Arctic ice would start creeping south, and after 100 years, would extend all the way down to the southern coast of England. Europe’s average temperature would plunge, as would North America’s – including parts of the US. The Amazon rainforest would see a complete reversal in its seasons; the current dry season would become the rainy months, and vice versa.

          That means the collapse will happen, with immediate consequences as well as consequences that won’t stabilize for over 100 years, not taking into account other destabilizing forces. Like can you read?

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        Can you please elaborate on what you mean by “educated in science”?

        • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldOP
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          2 months ago

          I have taken a variety of science classes, especially in biology but also in chemistry, engineering, and physics, at undergrad and masters level at multiple decent universities.

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        Then you should recall that some of the largest megafauna ever lived for tens of millions of years at much higher temperatures(and therefore sea levels)

        • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldOP
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          At higher temps that changed over thousands of years gradually. This is not that. And that’s even if “high temp” was the ONLY planetary boundary being crossed. It is not. There are numerous SIMULTANEOUS extinction events happening. And we know megafauna isn’t surviving this time because we are in the middle of a major extinction event already. Millions of sea life and millions and millions of birds and insects are dead already, from being boiled alive in the ocean to starvation to pollution to bird flu.

        • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldOP
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          2 months ago

          Lol no you’re the poopy-butt!

          Do you see how silly ad hominems are? Do you want to talk about something substantial? Or would you like to continue your tantrum because you don’t think the same as I do?

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    2 months ago

    The biggest threat to your life from climate change is this kind of doomerism making you suicidal. I’ve been down that road myself.

    Either get off your ass and do something about it or stop worrying about it. You’re not helping anyone by making yourself sad.

        • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldOP
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          I’m asking for coping methods or strategies. For example, I sing a lot because it doesn’t contribute anything to capitalism and more fossil fuels being released, and it releases oxytocin so it makes me feel good. I also read and spend time with others, smoke cannabis, take psilocybin.

          That we don’t want to die, and don’t want the planet to die, shows that we are very much not suicidal so it’s just weird you brought that up at all lol.

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    2 months ago

    Same as always. Live my best life right up until the very end. Set a good example and understand my place in the universe.

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    2 months ago

    I bike as much as possible instead of driving and lobby my local government for zoning reform.

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    I’m a silly goose with young kids and I’ve been head-in-the-sand trying to deal with my own survival. Once I had an iota of stability, I started to let the outside world in again and often wish I hadn’t.

    I estimate I live in a place least likely to be dramatically affected by climate change, early on. It’s not like I’m in Florida and can’t afford to insure my home any longer because of hurricane risk. It’s not like I’m likely to be one of the 1.2 billion climate refugees by 2050.

    So I try to take little steps to get prepared for something I never thought I’d need to be prepared for. We’re growing more and more of our own food, we’re expanding our water/food stores and storage. We plan to get a solar system soon (so we’re the 1/10 that makes it through an extended grid outage), while global supply chains still function.

    I’ve started a little (20TB) apocalypse library, full of illustrated guides, youtube videos, books, and resources.

    My biggest stumbling block is starting community. I generally don’t like people and as you’ve seen in this thread, most people don’t take climate change seriously.

    And, as someone else said… weed and time in nature.

  • Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I joined a climate activism group in my local area, frankly it’s the best possible way to deal with it. You can make a difference, the messaging we get is often intended to make us feel powerless to keep people from protesting, but it’s actually one of the most empowering ways to deal with it. Being with a group of passionate people amplifies your ability to effect change, and given how broken many of our governments are, it’s necessary. The biggest thing stopping us from forcing big changes is our lack of numbers, solidarity is strength.

    It certainly beats sitting around feeling angry and stressed.

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    2 months ago

    Does it hit anyone else like a bolt of lightning that probably I - we - won’t die of old age?

    Wait, do you actually believe this?

    • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldOP
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      Yes. I am friends with ecological scientists, biologists, soil scientists, ornithologists, and other various environmental researchers. The rest of my natural life would be ~40-50 years. We probably have 10-20 at most. Remember, the heating is exponential and delayed, and we’ve also exceeded several other planetary boundaries. Our governments are decades too late. We are literally already in the middle of an extinction event.

      Even if everyone TODAY stopped burning all fossil fuels, we’d still have to sequester millions of tons of carbon in 10-20 years with no infrastructure for it. To do this will release more greenhouse gases. Amd we still have to address the 9 other planetary boundaries we’ve crossed including ocean acidification, soil destruction, and pollution.

      The absolute best shot we have is to deflect a percentage of the sun’s rays from ever reaching earth with some kind of space blanket or shield. Likely we will just inject sulfur into the atmosphere with unknown consequences.

      That you don’t realize how bad it is, is the sadder thing. We have seriously failed in educating people about science. Chemical reactions need specific energy requirements to work, which means specific temperatures. It’s a big deal to our very cells themselves that the planet is getting hotter. And again, that is only 1 planetary boundary and we have crossed others.

      You can literally see footage online of people’s housing falling into the ocean, and their property wasn’t oceanfront when they bought it. You can look u0 articles about billions of sea life boiling alive off the oregon coast and baby eagles flinging themselves from their nests to die due to heat. You can see the recent article about Dubai being beyond the wet bulb temp for humans to survive. That’s not normal, ya’ll. None of this is normal.

      But whatever, it’s too late. Enjoy your remaining years as much as you can, and don’t forget you can always starve yourself to death for free if you don’t have a bullet. Good luck everyone.

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