• I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Doesn’t matter, go fucking vote. Vote like your life depends on it; depending on your demographic that could very well not be hyperbole. Vote like it’s a terrifyingly close election, because despite all the polls and the analysts, this election is still going to come down to razor thin margins. It is VERY hard to compete with the sheer fanaticism of Trump’s base; a large number of them literally think he’s the Messiah or that Harris is the antichrist so they feel justified in all sorts of batshit actions.

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      3 months ago

      SCOTUS can’t overrule an election outcome unless there is contention and proof. Won’t happen. Her numbers are too good, and that’s taking into account that polls only reach old people.

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        SCOTUS can’t overrule an election outcome unless there is contention and proof

        They can do whatever the fuck a majority of them wants. That’s why Mitch McConnell considered stacking the courts much more important to his legacy than electoral success.

        The way the broken system works, they have the final say on ANYTHING and can only be overruled by the by now impossible constitutional amendment process.

        No matter how nonsensical or blatantly corrupt their reasoning, their judgment is effectively final.

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          If SC tries to force an illegitimate Trump presidency down our throats there will be hell to pay. Biden might also need to use some of his newly-acquired presidential immunity superpowers and ship the SC to Antarctica to do science research for the rest of their tenure.

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            If SC tries to force an illegitimate Trump presidency down our throats there will be hell to pay

            There should be but there won’t. Just like when they forced an illegitimate Bush president down people’s throats in 2000 and the powerful ignored the millions decrying THAT injustice.

            Biden might also need to use some of his newly-acquired presidential immunity superpowers and ship the SC to Antarctica to do science research for the rest of their tenure.

            Even if he’d ever do such a thing (or indeed ANYTHING that violates the rules and norms that Neoliberals consider much more important than any outcomes of following or breaking them), they made sure that what constitutes “official acts” is up to the SCOTUS themselves, thus effectively making any executive overreach by Biden just as illegal as before and any by Trump the law of the land.

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              SC rulings from Antarctica aren’t gonna hold much more weight.

              This isn’t Bush vs. Gore, this would be an insurrection against democracy and that will be plain to see to the majority of Americans.

              In any case, just fucking vote folks.

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                This isn’t Bush vs. Gore, this would be an insurrection against democracy

                As was Bush v. Gore.

                that will be plain to see to the majority of Americans.

                As was Bush v. Gore.

                You’re simultaneously underestimating the establishment’s ability to wag the dog and overestimating how willing the Dem leadership are to fight against great injustices, especially ones that are technically within the obsolete guidelines established in the 1700s.

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                  It wasn’t an insurrection. The sentiment was “whatever, there’s always the next election”. And eventually we voted Obama in. That’s how the resilience of democracy is supposed to work. A shit hand one election doesn’t doom the country for eternity because when people get sick enough of it they can change things and vote differently. That was clearly Gore’s sentiment as well when he conceded to keep the country moving.

                  That sentiment no longer exists. This is different. Conceding is not some patriotic sacrifice to keep the country moving. It is the end of democracy and there is no coming back.

                  Neither of us really know how things will manifest, but this is not 24 years ago, the stakes are higher and the situation is far different.

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      “apologize for not listening” in your view, what difference does it make whether we listen or not, and why should we apologize? As you said, “won’t make a difference” right?