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PugJesus@lemmy.worldM to Historical Artifacts@lemmy.worldEnglish · 5 months ago

Ring engraved with 'for Allah' found in a Viking grave, Sweden, dated mid-800s AD

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Ring engraved with 'for Allah' found in a Viking grave, Sweden, dated mid-800s AD

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PugJesus@lemmy.worldM to Historical Artifacts@lemmy.worldEnglish · 5 months ago
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/engraved-ring-found-in-sweden-suggests-contact-between-viking-age-scandinavians-and-islamic-civilisation-10118283.html

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    I love all of your historical artifacts posts, PugJesus. Fascinating!

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      Just trying to bring a few intriguing historical tidbits to the Fediverse! 🙏

      • DogPeePoo@lemm.ee
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        Your posts are an oasis in a vast desert of political corruption , environmental apocalypse, and financial malaise. Anyways… I, and I am sure others, thank you.

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          Totally! You’re kicking ass pugjesus

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          For real dude! It’s so bad out there.

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        You bring a lot of interesting things in many different spaces here. Thank you

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    So… Viking who converted to Islam, or loot from a raid, or what?

    Clothes and jewellery around the decomposed skeleton showed it to be a female burial dating back to 850 AD.

    Or maybe some Viking found himself a Muslim wife?

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      We have found Damascus steel in viking camps in Sweden, so it is quite possible that this ring was traded for, or looted.

      Until we find conclusive proof of conversion to Islam, we should be very careful in reading further into this than simply being an interesting artifact.

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        I thought it was pretty standard for people to travel around this far, especially the Vikings. They were sought after as mercenaries, afaik, and I imagine this sort of artifact could be part of a pay packet.

        There’s Viking graffiti in Istanbul’s Hagia Sophia, for example.

        • stoy@lemmy.zip
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          I think that some people will connect the artifact to the current gang issues here in Sweden.

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            That seems like a huge leap. As a non swede my first impression was that some viking probably “married” a pretty Muslim girl he came across doing what vikings purportedly did.

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              Thats fair, as a Swede I have been used to people constantly taking shots at us lately about migration and gang crime

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      Loot, trade, conversion - it’s fascinating because the possibilities are really endless.

      • xiao@sh.itjust.works
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        True

    • 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆@lemmy.world
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      I’m gambling on booty for booty

    • ladicius@lemmy.world
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      Slave trade. Wife is a loose term in that context.

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      Guess a genetic analysis (if bone sizes isn’t enough) would check that quickly.

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    Have y’all not seen the documentary about this?

    https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1911-the-13th-warrior

    • CheeryLBottom@lemmy.world
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      Excellent movie!

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    Just a tip, either put a date in the title or don’t write it like it’s something new. The article is from 2015.

    • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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      And the ring is from 800. It’s all old stuff!

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    Present from Basim?

  • Noodle07@lemmy.world
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    Ring went from Allah to valhalla

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    Tie your knickers up. The viking probably brought it back from his travels. This is not a sign that extreme muslim immigration to the nordics has always been the norm.

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      Don’t know why that was your immediate reaction, but okay.

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        Because this is Lemmy, and I can read communist minds like they’re an open book at size 22

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          Communists famously known for their ties to religion…

          • cro_magnon_gilf@sopuli.xyz
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            They do love islam and muslims for some reason

            • Saleh@feddit.org
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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_Soviet_Union

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China

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          You are reading like my nephew was at ~4 years old. Opened up a book demonstratively and started reading out loud what he’d imagine could be written in there. It’s funnier when it’s a 10cm thick brick of a book in an old leather casing and he reads how the kangaroo gifts his bunny friend a firetruck Lego set. You doing that same thing with a great replacement obsession is tragically pathetic.

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