• DarthBueller@lemmy.world
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    You know how they seal kids teeth, and insurance covers it? It basically keeps kids from getting cavities until the sealant eventually wears off. Well, they could put the same sealant on adults. But they don’t.

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      I’ve lived in at least two places where that treatment is available for adults. Insurance may cover it depending on what kind of insurance you got, it is expensive but not ridiculously so in comparison to other dental procedures.

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        I had it done in the USA in the 90s when I had my adult teeth, not sure if it was before or after I got my 12 year molars. I asked about it a few years ago and the dentist said that insurance only covers it for kids.

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          What do they use for sealing? I’m swiss and we don’t do this. Is it because you have corn sirup everywhere?

          edit: so, uh, is this widespread?

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            I have no idea. It’s white and it cures hard with exposure to UV light. It might just be filling media used as a surface sealant—not a dentist, sorry.

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      My wife works in dental insurance so I asked her. She said for the general public, the effectiveness of the sealant decreases as the client ages, because an adult’s tooth is more smooth than a child’s. So there’s a critical age where the cons outweighs the pros.

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        If you think that the entire dental industry is fully prepared and willing to negate billions of dollars in profit per year but the porosity of adult teeth has simply tied their hands… I’ve got a couple bridges to sell you.

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          I am 38 and have so far had no cavity. Turns out adults have a very easy handle on dental hygiene, brushing your teeth, flossing and avoiding candy and sweet drinks

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      It’s useful in immature teeth because the grooves have not yet taken up enough fluoride to be acid resistant enough against the modern diet. Not all immature teeth need them either, as not everyone has those deep grooves. Furthermore, this only protects against decay on that surface if it’s done well - and a lot of the time a wriggly kid means saliva has contaminated the surface and now you have an extra interface of failure.

      In adults the benefit is a lot less (if the groove was decay prone, they would have formed a cavity there by the time they see a dentist), and doing this procedure may actually increase the risk of decay than reduce (due to the extra interface of failure).

      Lastly, this only protects that surface - not in between teeth. A lot of cavities happen between because there’s a lot of plaque being left behind there… Because almost nobody flosses properly.

      Use your interdental brushes folks! And stop drinking soda… And use extra high fluoride toothpaste.

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        Does fluoride do anything for adults? I had a retired MD-credentialed public health director recently tell me that it only is useful for the first (7? Can’t remember) years of life.

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          Mineral constantly comes in and out of the enamel crystal matrix due to acid challenge (which occurs for a variety of reasons), and including fluoride when it goes back in creates a more acid resistant crystal.

          This occurs no matter the age of the individual. Systemic uptake is something to be mindful of at young ages, so it’s actually important to have not too much when younger, but you can go up to an adult dose past the age of 7.

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            That’s what I had always heard. He told me the contrary info but then said he still ordered the water to be fluoridated back when he took over a health director position. He’s not a conspiracy guy so I wonder where he got his info. He could be just a bit flaky with age.

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      One of the reasons we don’t seal adult teeth is because insurance doesn’t cover it and people don’t want to pay for it (there are other reasons like prior fillings, loss of tooth structure, groove being less prominent, etc). If someone asks for it to be done and agrees to pay out of pocket we’ll definitely do it.

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      I’ve had it done as a young adult. Fluoride treatments too. Maybe my dentist is weird, but some places definitely do it.

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      Same with skin dermatology type conditions. How they fuck do we not have a pill or cream to cure itchy scalp. Why do I need to use expensive shampoos every two days the rest of my life or else I scratch my dandruffy scalp until it bleeds because there’s some fungus I now have to deal with until my immune system gets so old that the fungus takes over

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        This probably won’t help you but I’m saying it anyway just in case it does help.

        I dealt with something similar for over a year that just wouldn’t get better even after I tried all the dandruff shampoos I could find at the store. My doctor prescribed this lotion called taro-mometasone (I think?) and within a week the dandruff was gone and it never came back. This was about 7 years ago, and I haven’t used the lotion since. And it was awful dandruff. It was becoming like scabs on my head and my hair was starting to fall out.

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      I read an article about that. IIRC it’s mainly because there is only minimal bloodflow in your teeth - barely enough to supply it with nutrients (and still not enough you should skip external flouride etc.).

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      Because every dentist would kill a bitch to keep it secret. It is an extremely lucrative career.

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      I will sacrifice myself and get titties as long as I have good teeth!

      edit who am I kidding, I already have removedtiddies

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          ahh that makes sense now… I was wondering wtf are removedtitties. I thought they were talking about a mastectomy or something.

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          I don’t get what it’s supposed to be. Can you spell it out for me with a between every letter or something to defeat the filter?

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            I’m not the guy who wrote it, but if I had to guess he probably meant bi.tchtiddies?

            The slur filter on lemmy.ml is weird, that’s why I changed instances.

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              My first instinct was mantiddies, it makes sense with the “I’d grow a pair if it means healthier teeth”. But it would be an absurd word to filter.

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        DIM doesn’t increase estrogen, it reduces it. It forces the body to metabolize estradiol into 2-hydroxyestrone, which cannot be converted back to estradiol and has lower binding affinity, so it just gets pissed out. It’s often used for breast and thyroid cancer treatments.

        So yeah, this could be really bad for women.

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    Dead bio-volumes in all dosages were not detected, eliminating the possibility of antimicrobial activity elicited by DIM treatment.

    From the paper. Interesting it’s NOT an antibiotic but just inhibits biofilm formation. The paper also alludes to an anti-acne application.

    This is very cool. Thanks for sharing!