Do you think if he kneels down and kisses trump feet he would be okay? I’m so worried damn…

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      The bankruptcy claim comes up a lot. I hate Trump as much as anyone who can form opinions that don’t come from a radio talk show, but I’d be willing to he’s the bankruptcies were by design. He probably did what the toys r us CEO and 50 cent did, where they funnel money out of a company, and the company goes under.

      That being said. He’s still a fucking piece of shit who’s making the founding fathers roll in their graves

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        It’s the generous interpretation where Trump abused the bankruptcy system for his own benefit, and I definitely agree.

        Still wouldn’t want a country run that way, the people are the consumers about to be conned or the investors about to be fleeced.

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      I saw the “and there’s no filing for bankruptcy on this one” at the end and all I could think is that even if you thought running a country like a business was a good idea (it’s not) why would you pick a businessman who’s filed for bankruptcy quite a lot to be the one to do so? I feel like he needs to ask himself that.

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    Maybe, just fucking maybe, the government isnt a business and you should stop thinking the proven vampires of the world will somehow be good for us cattle.

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    Conservatives are for the most part still deluded into thinking that his goal is to “balance the trade deficit.”

    It’s horseshit. That’s not his goal, it’s his pretense; the idiot reason he gives his idiot followers so that they don’t see him for the Russian asset he is.

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      Believing that others in their tribe (who they THINK are in their tribe) are being truthful is probably the most ubiquitous flaw conservatives have.

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    he is a business man

    No he isn’t. Everything she’s ever touched turned to utter shit and went bankrupt. He bankrupted a casino. Like, how even do you do that? That’s not incompetence, that requires a very specific skill set to do

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      Not just one. He managed to bankrupt 3 or 4 casinos on the Jersey Shore in Atlantic City in the late 80s and early 90s.

      That’s like burning down a mint 4 times.

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      You very well and most likely all of us are missing the Y as to why Donald Trump has done the things he’s done and managed to always fall upwards.

      I say that because if he’s so bad, he wouldn’t be continuously hired upwards. He’s now the most powerful position in the world so keep it in mind. He didn’t get there because every large business and its founders and CEOs are so much more dumber than the rest of us that they didn’t know what they were doing.

      Some CEOs are hired as a hatchet CEO to destroy companies on purpose. To dismantle them from the inside. You guys need to start thinking that all of this is on purpose and is malicious and that they’re smarter than you. The art of war: do not underestimate your enemy.

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        Not underestimating either cheeto nor Elmo by stating the simple truth that both are fucking idiots born into wealth, and -amongst other things- being extremely lucky

        I’ve been yelling for nearly a decade now that Elmo is an incompetent but also evil motherfucker, glad that people are catching on.

        Just watch interviews with either from decade(s) ago, just hear them stumble about anything that has to do with what they do, they don’t know or understand shit. Elmo calls himself the world’s best engineer yet he doesn’t have a clue what an engineer even does

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        This is a prime example of survivorship bias. It’s the equivalent of an idiot winning the lottery, continuing to buy tickets, winning the lottery again, and having people say “look how much money he has, he must be some financial genius!”

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    Things that make about as much sense as “Conservative Environmentalist”:

    • Anarcho Bidenism
    • People that enjoy fruitcake
    • Jumbo shrimp
    • For Profit Social Services
    • Anarcho Capitalism
    • People referring to a lion being the ‘king of the jungle’ without realising lions don’t live in jungles.
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      Fruitcake is actually really nice, provided you make it yourself. Those bricks they sell in stores are nothing like the real thing. I think the store sold stuff is intended as replacements for structural support walls.

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    “we need someone to run the government like a business” “lets pick this guy with 40 bankruptcies” my guy even if the premise wasn’t idiotic what did you think would happen

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    He is doing something…for the insider traders. Where the OP lost 15% the insiders dumped off ahead of the storm and will buy the dip.

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    Those aren’t TRUE CONSERVATIVES and will be banned shortly.

    Only TRUE CONSERVATIVES who love licking that orange man’s knob are allowed to comment in r/conservatives. Loyalty oaths will be presented shortly.

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      love licking that orange man’s knob

      Well, I’ve been on Lemmy for all of four hours and just threw up in my mouth. Thanks for that!

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          I first heard what a poop knife was about 10 years ago from my wife. Evidently they had one in her house growing up.

          She and some of y’all need jesus lol.

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            I heard about it on Reddit, I have a pretty good diet, haven’t ever needed, or known anyone that needed, a poop knife

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              Yea, I don’t want to see the cornsnake that some of these folks are churning out to need a thing like a poop knife.

              And christ almighty the effects on the plumbing, having to transport such a thing! Won’t someone think of the pipes!

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                shudder fuck the pipes, won’t someone think of the poor plumbers that have to come deal with poopknife family homes?

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    The guy that has had way more business failures than successes (and even that’s questionable if you control for fraudulent reporting) doesn’t understand how economics works? The hell you say…

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    There’s no point trying to make rational arguments against something that’s fundamentally irrational. Trump’s tariffs are just more Rambo posturing for his diehard MAGA legions, who don’t even understand that they’re the ones paying the tariffs.

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    No, just thought of Canada being part of the US is just mind fucking blowing. People here besides the military have no clue what war fucking is. That alone is bonkers. Anything besides that is just as mind blowing. Not even a fucking conversation or thought to have. Canada is Canada and I’m glad to be their neighbor. Anyone want to grab a puppers?

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        Indeed. But my point is how in the hell do you even entertain that idea or finish a sentence like that post? Shouldn’t even be a topic nor a joke. Anyways…… I can go for a puppers.

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      And when he does run an actual business, he tends to go bankrupt, and rarely profits more than a broad market index fund would.

      In other words, he’s objectively bad at business. He would be poor if he hadn’t been born rich.

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      Mine haven’t. I pulled my money out a month ago when I saw that the new Trump presidency wasn’t going to be like the first one.

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        Well, he’s being the same failed businessman and bigot he’s been his entire life, the biggest difference between the two terms is that now he doesn’t have undoing all the things that a black man did while in office to keep him busy.

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        I can’t decide what the right move right now to do is. I lost months of growth in a couple weeks. The market has always come back before, but the orange shitstain is pretty uniquely awful, and showing us how he cares jackshit about nuking the economy.

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          He hates America and Americans, so do with that information whatever you want, but he doesn’t want you to make money and he doesn’t want anyone in this country to succeed that’s not him. Like that’s so obvious I don’t know why it’s not something people discuss constantly. We made fun of him for his entire life along with his father. We’ve tried to throw him and his dad in jail multiple times. We didn’t take a single thing he’s ever done seriously and he has a chip on his shoulder over this.

          He was partying in the USSR where they were treating him like a fucking king before the collapse. Imagine the kind of shit he would’ve been able to get into in that country during chaos how many friends he made with various oligarchs and power players. He was the Russians in on America for fucks sake guys. He’s the reason why Rudy Giuliani was able to “clean up New York“. Yeah, because he was able to use the Russians to replace the Italians. Which was probably just an extension of his fucking racism! He didn’t clean shit up. It was just the level of corruption they were dealing was different instead of drugs you have sex trafficking. One deals with the dredges of society and the other deals with the richest so that’s why New York looks cleaner and that’s how Trump met his wife and that’s how Epstein was able to do what he did.

          And it’s just all there if you take time to read.

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          If there’s money going in probably the best option in the very long term is to not sell/pull money out but to instead keep buying while the stocks are depressed. Buy low sell high as they say. If the entire US economy collapses we’ll all have much bigger problems than worrying about what we selected to do with our retirement portfolios

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          Oh it will definitely bounce back up eventually. No idea when this will happen though.

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            I tend to think a lot of this damage is permanent. That doesn’t mean you’re wrong, but it might mean our growth is stunted forever or for many years. Screwing over allies like this, and a public who would re-elect him? Why would they trust us as a trade partner if they can avoid it?

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              Please be careful with your investments. Respectfully, you seem to be mistaking the idea that markets like these reflect reality. The market and reality can remain out of alignment as long as all the major players are willing to keep pretending. This is the nature of a bubble, for instance, and no one can predict when it will pop (except those who can cause it to…).

              Trump is VERY likely: aware of the market swings he’s causing, doing it on purpose, and taking advantage of predictable moves with friends. He very well may issue statements next week that cause it to shoot back up.

              You’re a consumer of investments, meaning a mark, rube, or bag holder for the people who actually exert influence over these things. You should almost certainly leave your money alone and not make moves that play directly into the hands of the folks who want you to sell low and buy high.

              Edit: typo

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                I appreciate this. I think you have a better grasp on things but I was leaning toward not doing anything. In any case my portfolio is fairly conservative. Index funds and a retirement plan set to light risk setting iirc. Yeah, these motherfuckers care about their own money so I figured they were taking full advantage, incredibly illegally, but who will stop them? No one. I was considering moving some of my savings into my index funds because of the buy low sell high thing but I’m too spooked to change much.

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                  I’ve got a similar portfolio to yours and every time I’ve made changes based on what look to me like inevitable events / movements, I’ve regretted it. As maddening as it can be, I just leave it alone now and slowly balance toward (traditionally) safer investments (AKA not stocks or even indexes of them) as I get older. Cheers and good luck, I understand the frustration!!

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              Exactly. It could be back to the level it was 1 month ago in 1 month from now if Trump does a complete 180 to his approach (doubtful and yet somewhat still believable) just like it could take 10 years.

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      And countries can totally do the same. Argentina was bankrupt at least twice, Venezuela has defaulted on bonds, Greece was restructured. And I’m pretty sure there are others.

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        Bye, bye reserve currency status and all the cheap loans, inflation reduction and broader economic influence that comes with it …

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          You couldn’t think that that was gonna last forever. I mean, it was very obvious. We were headed straight towards the collapse regardless. Cheap loans reserve currency inflation reduction literally all of that is just making climate change worse so this was all gonna end regardless.

          I don’t think anyone should care about any of that stuff that was making it worse for all of us anyways. We need to start thinking in a way of how do we grab back power and then build this world up in our vision.

          Because we’re not going back to the before time that’s not happening.

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            If it happens fast (because the US defaults on its external debt) rather than slowly (the slow decay from the post “Imperial” era), the damage will be very different because it will be a sudden shock rather than something slow enough that people and companies can adapt to it.

            It’s the difference between, sudden hyper-inflation within a few months and having a few decades of higher inflation than its trade partners (which is actually what has been happenning so far) or a sudden forced significant cut on just about all kinds of public expenses (because nobody will be lending money to the US and printing money will generate way more inflation when a significant proportion of new dollars aren’t going abroad anymore, which links to the whole hyperinflation thing) and decades of fiscal contraction (again, what’s been happenning so far).

            If you think people are dissatisfied because average salary growth isn’t keeping up with 7 or 8% inflation, imagine when it’s 30 or 40% inflation.