• finitebanjo@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
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        You mean like an equity, equality, human rights kind of communist or the China/USSR kind?

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          I’ll get back to you on that. I’m currently reading Roland Boer’s ā€œSocialism with Chinese characteristicsā€ (with ā€œThe basic economic system of chinaā€ queued up afterwards) and it sort of overthrows my entire perspective on marxism, socialism, communism, etc. I’m in favor of equity and equality, human rights and well-being for everyone, but so it seems are the Chinese, and it seems there’s actually a lot of work to that end happening in China. It’s just being obscured by western liberalism. Who knows what I’ll see on the other side. I don’t mean to say that atrocities didn’t or don’t happen, they obviously do. What’s interesting to me and what other books on China kept from me is that actually Chinese do know about those atrocities. They’re fully aware and critize them just as much as we do, just with their own lens instead of a western liberal lens.

          It remains to be seen how I’ll think about China, but I can already tell you the situation is much more complex than you might see from a western perspective.

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            Fucking Tankies, China is a dictatorship run by hateful conservative psychopaths.

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              I’m genuinely not a tankie. I’d actually consider myself anarchist, but I’m also interested in actually learning about things. Roland Boer has actual experience in China as well as in a Chinese school for Marxism, so who am I to immediately disregard his opinion because the whole idea is unpopular here?

              Right now your response is very shallow and ignorant, and thus easily manipulated by people with big wallets. I mean it truly is a kneejerk reaction from you. Those are the most easily exploited.

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                If you don’t think you’re a Tankie after explaining your beliefs to me, then you didn’t know what a Tankie was until I told you.

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                  My belief right now is merely that China is much more complex than I previously thought. I don’t think you’re necessarily arguing in good faith here.

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                    lmfao the Tankie says my argument isn’t in good faith, that I’m not being fair and I should consider Human Rights violations and Dictatorships are tolerable evils.

                    Thanks for that input.