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      Obviously there’s a need for people in this comm to uninstall their boot loaders, and a frustration that Windows won’t let them.

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      Noticed that too, my memory is absolute godshit and even I remember having seen it at least twice now in the current recency.

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      And it’s not even that great of a flex too. “My OS lets me sudo commands that will break my system.” Great, so your system lets you accidentally break the system with a fat finger mistake? Why would I want that?

      Windows is geared towards a general audience that includes some of the dumbest and least technically literate people to ever walk the earth. And they have to support it. Of course they’re going to limit your permissions.

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          Did I say I was defending MS’ restrictions on Edge? No. I think it’s dumb, but not for the reason you think.

          MS prevents you from uninstalling edge because for some stupid reason a bunch of system processes and their store all require and use edge as a dependency. Removing edge would actually break a lot of things in windows. Is it stupid? Absolutely. But the reason they don’t want to do that is because MS implements a lot of restrictions like this to prevent their end users from breaking windows with stupid mistakes.

          But this meme isn’t about allowing people to removing edge. Its trying to flex on the capabilities of linux vs. windows but using the laziest smooth brained way to do that. There are a lot of benefits to linux over windows. But the ability to sudo fuck your bootloader isn’t one of them.

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            The reason they don’t is because of the antitrust suit they had back in the day. The tried to argue internet explorer was a integrated part of the OS so they didn’t have to remove it. Now they are forcing edge to be just that so they do their old anti trust shit again

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            Are those lot of things actually useful? I forcibly removed edge or most of its files anyway and had no issue. The links won’t work obviously but that’s a feature to me. Fuck edge and windows.

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              Look I’m not going to defend windows or Microsoft. Personally I doubt its useful at all but it doesn’t really matter. A broken dependency is a broken dependency.

              Even if it’s a pet project from a bing exec that’s completely unnecessary - if removing it will break things, an os geared towards a general public should prevent it from being removed.

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            One of the things that people like about Linux is how configurable it is. This meme is alluding to the power that Linux gives users through a technique known as “humor”.

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              Oh duh, you’re absolutely right, I forgot about the oft used configuration option of “sudo fuck my boot loader = enabled”

              If linuxmemes thinks this meme is humor, it explains a lot.

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          It could be said that while there’s a million good reasons to allow uninstallation of edge, this is taking one of the weakest ones.

          You could easily vouch for it and still think it’s not really that great to point out something that would easily break the PC for a lot of inexperienced users.

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    Wait… Microsoft is still pretending that having their web browser installed is vital to the continued operation of their OS?

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    The first thing I do on every install. Delete the bootloader and all the bloat files in /. Especially those goddamned .files

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    Aaaaannddd again.

    Install Linux, drop any and all Microsoft software, you don’t need it

    Fuck everything about Microsoft

    And lately I’d like to add Google yo this too, but at least google has working and dependable products

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      This is a bit unrealistic. Games may work better than they did in the past, but performance isn’t 1:1 yet. More importantly, device drivers can be a lot more dicey.

      Personally, the main thing keeping me from actually using my Linux partition most of the time is that my mouse buttons can’t be properly rebound. Yeah, I could find some janky work-around, but that would be eating into my workflow.

      I also do, in fact, need Windows for development.

      GNU is great, but pretending it’s a viable Windows replacement for every use case is just disingenuous. It doesn’t help anyone and it only makes GNU supporters seem that much more out of touch with the average user’s experience.

      There are literally people who will think the internet is broken if they accidentally delete their browser shortcut or just straight up can’t find it in the sea of icons on their desktop. These are the users that Windows is protecting from themselves. The same users probably wouldn’t be able to figure out how to use the command line if their life depended on it.

      There’s a place for Windows, and there’s a place for GNU. I’d love to see the place for GNU expand and the place for Windows shrink, but that doesn’t make it so.

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        Microsoft seems to think that windows is the solution to all usecases, I think the reverse.

        Yes, Linux too has its issues, but I’ve seen major growth in Linux whereas windows had been a steady decline to becoming an ad riddled bloatware machine that you pay for

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          Windows definitely isn’t the solution for all use cases. There are some use cases for which it’s completely ineffective. There is no one operating system that’s perfect for all use cases.

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        This feels out-of-touch itself, like you haven’t actually tried in years. Yes, to rebind your mouse buttons, you will have to install a piece of software, and tell it what you want each button to do… Exactly like you have to do in Windows. I haven’t seen any janky work-arounds needed, and the software is a lot more responsive than I was used to in windows with the official logitech software. You don’t need command line in linux any more often than you need to edit the registry in windows - your typical PC user can get by without it just fine and probably should stay away from it. As for game performance, there will always be variability here, but there is no hard and fast rule like “you will lose 20% performance in linux vs windows”. Some stuff may not get along with proton or linux (big one is some of the “bad actor” anti-cheat stuff, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread that just won’t work at all), but the vast majority is running great under linux - imperceptibly different, if it is even different at all. Finally, there are plenty of distros that will handle all the drivers you need with little to no input from the user. One of the primary selling points of PopOS is fantastic graphics driver support “out of the box”, but they aren’t alone - many make the process invisible or butter smooth.

        I always love how many people that don’t use linux to do ‘X’ thing, feel the need to tell people that do use linux every day for ‘X’ how bad linux is at doing ‘X’… People going into windows specific communities and shouting about how bad windows is for ‘X’ or ‘Y’ task would be shunned to oblivion if not outright banned, but they come into the linux communities every day to tell us how bad linux is??

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          I emailed the dev who makes Solaar less than a month ago after my most recent attempt. They said clicking and holding would be on Logitech’s end, in their firmware. As the firmware stands currently, it’s not possible to rebind those particular buttons and click and hold them unless you rebind them to other buttons already on the mouse. Works in Logitech Options + on Windows, does not work through Solaar on any Linux distro.

          I attempted to contact the Logitech devs, but there doesn’t seem to be any open avenue for doing so. I tried talking to Logitech support, but they weren’t able to put me in contact or even forward a message.

          So yes, I have tried this recently. And literally the person who makes the software I’m trying to use has told me that my use case is not currently possible without some sort of workaround.

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        Linux is less dependable and less stable

        Yeah, you’re just trolling now. Linux desktops get installed, then work, and just keep working. I’ve had a Linux Desktop for over 20 years now, I’ve supported Linux and windows desktops for a similar amount of time and I can easily tell you you’re full of shit.

        Yes, Linux has issues like everything, but nothing has issues like a Microsoft windows desktop.

        It’s the windows machines that are always at risk for the next virus or shit, it’s the windows machine where next up the virus scanner makes the machine unstable and un dependable. It’s the windows machine where half the shit always works, well, half.

        Many apps? Yeah sure dude, “Linux doesn’t have many apps.” Is one of those vague "I have shit idea what I’m talking about"statements

        “Many devices” 20 years of Linux and I can tell you that Linux has more devices supportrd out of the box than windows. Yes, there may be some niche hardware that isn’t supported but if you really need that, ask the vendor.

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        Terminal:

        cd/
        cd %Program Files (x86)%\Microsoft\Edge\Application\EDGEVERSIONNUMBER\Installer
        setup --uninstall --force-uninstall --system-level
        

        or

        Powershell:

        get-appxpackage *edge*
        Remove-appxpackage 
        

        I know you guys foam at the mouth every time you see how much market share Windows has, but at least use valid arguments as to why you think your specific branch of Linux is superior.

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          I think the drama is the result of intent, not theoretical possibility for someone who knows a workaround. The difference is that Microsoft obviously doesn’t WANT you to uninstall edge, and makes it artificially more difficult to do so than 3rd party browsers, despite your ownership of the computer.

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            Does Linux want you to remove the bootloader? Cause that is what the post is claiming then.

            Windows is a lot more idiot proof, that is why it is so popular with non-techies. T’is a feature, not a bug.

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          i use windows myself, because vr gaming sux on linux. and i can’t uninstall edge. tried everything and i always get permission denied.

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            You’d get the same permission denied in Linux if you tried to remove the bootloader. You just don’t have permissions, my man.

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            Press the Windows key, type “Powershell”, right click “Windows Powershell” and click “Run as administrator”. Then use the commands listed above.

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              i always run povershell and command line as admin. even if i don’t need admin privileges.

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    Back when Windows 98 just released and I was a kid, my friend’s dad used his Acer boot CD to boot into DOS and rename the Windows directory to Linux.

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    C is the same. Free to do whatever you want until the system stops you. Yet people hate coding in C for some reason, as there isn’t enough hand holding.

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        Where Assembly stops, run an opcode fuzzer to locate undocumented instructions.

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            isn’t assembly code sent throu an assembler to get machine code ? i’m gonna ask google again brb edit the explanation i found:

            Both machine and assembly languages are low-level programming languages used to write programs. Machine language is the binary code computers understand and execute directly, while assembly language is a human-readable machine language representation

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              while assembly language is a human-readable machine language representation

              Yep. Same thing, but with letters.

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    I recognized it as Brainfuck, but assumed it was going to be a fork bomb for some reason.

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    Uninstalling the bootloader will brick your device.
    Are you sure you want to uninstall the bootloader?

    Society has stopped to extremes.