Look, all I’m saying it that those two chickens would eat each other, given a fair opportunity to do so without also being eaten by the other.
Both of them would gladly eat orcs by the dozen, given a fair opportunity to do so without being eaten by the orcs.
Chickens are fucking savage.
Just five hours ago, my hen damn near drew blood just taking a treat from my hand, and she likes me. Hell, I’m confident she loves me, and I am equally confident that if I ever fall down and can’t get up to bring her food, she will eat my eyeballs (which is fine by me, I’d rather my meat not go to waste, and keeping my baby bird alive is way more important than having eyeballs)
I can also tell anyone interested to go back to my most recent post showing off her eggs and read the part about the ones she ate.
I have zero issues eating the eggs of a critter that eats its own eggs when still having access to top quality layer feed, plenty of calcium supplements, and plentiful treats. If it was just my hen, maybe I’d worry, but that’s all chickens they dngaf unless they go broody, which is not the default.
And, just because it often gets asked, as much as I love my chickens (and I love them so much it hurts), I still eat chicken because those aren’t my chickens. Don’t ask me if I’d eat you in a pinch unless you want me to drool on you, because you aren’t my person. I’ll eat your chickens with gusto. And I’ll eat you if nobody else’s chickens are in the offing, then share your eyeballs with my chickens.
I’m really curious how most vegans will consider lab-grown meat. Yeah, the original cell cultures came from an animal, but it was probably quite a while back. Also, fertilizer for plants often comes from animals, so is it any different? I don’t think they should care, but I’m also not a vegan.
Most of us embrace the technology. Only a few confused ones still proclaim loudly that it’s unacceptable because it’s still connected to animal exploitation. But they’ve probably never looked up how much meat can be grown from a small biopsy and therefore how many animals can be spared from all that’s connected to meat production. Up until recently the highly unethical sourcing of fetal bovine growth serum needed for cultured meat would’ve made me an opponent too but as I understand this is practically solved:
I don’t know if I’ll eat it. I’m eating plant based for 6 years now and I really don’t miss anything. Did my bloodworks recently and they came back fine.
I also don’t know if this will be the holy grail for making the people turn away from the destruction of our planet that animal ag is. Looking at the statements of die hard meat eaters (especially carnivores) and the stances of current governments (especially the US under Kennedy) regarding tradition and rejection of science and how many blindly follow them and the advises of health quacks, I have strong doubts.
As a vegetarian who will happily eat vegan when the opportunity presents itself, I can’t wait for there to be affordable lab-grown meat that is almost indistinguishable from the real thing.
As an omnivore who will happily eat vegetarian or vegan when the opportunities presents themselves, I too, and looking forward to lab grown meat.
Would you or @Klanky@sopuli.xyz be interested in helping to grow and moderate a threadiverse community on this topic?
Akin to r/wheresthebeef in The Other Place, though we wouldn’t necessarily have to use the same name.
As much as I enjoy the food, it is far too politically charged for me to want to weigh in via moderation. Many vegans would eat me alive (figuratively, as I contain meat) for supporting animal murder. Many carnivores and other omnivores would do the same assume that anyone that likes eating vegetarian or vegan occasionally or regularly is trying to take away their choice to eat meat.
it is far too politically charged for me to want to weigh in via moderation
Understandable. If others were to take on the responsibility of moderation, would you help grow the community through posts or comments?
Perhaps. I have had to avoid participating and a number of the vegan Lemmy communities because of the aforementioned contentiousness. I’d be wary about participating in another.
I hear you. I’ve noticed that there tends to be a certain puritanical aspect to many vegetarian and vegan communities which I find somewhat perplexing, and think often runs counter to their own goals.
My hope for the new community would be to focus on the technological and economic barriers (and breakthroughs) to scaling production of lab-grown meat.
Ethical and ecological factors are an implicit bonus, but I don’t expect there would really be much to discuss.
“Think of the morality” 🤝 “Think of the efficiency”
🤝 = Lab-Grown Meat
Fuckin’ pastures and cultivated animal feed taking up massive swathes of land.
Huge… tracts of land, you might say.
Not every egg is fertilized, not every egg has to be fertilized.
The biological process happens automatically and the individuals are compulsed to abide by them.Therefore, we must introduce contraceptives to the bird population, to prevent unwanted and potentially dangerous nestings. For the sake of all birds everywhere, cloak those cloacae!
alternative, to make sure, you can fertilize them yourself
secrets Big Chicken doesn’t want you to know:
Jizz on your eggs - get free chickens for your backyard!
President Bush portentously warned us about a creature waiting to burst forth from our biology labs: human-animal hybrids.
- State of the Union address 2006
I think at this point I’m much more concerned about a food source’s ecological viability rather than it’s economic viability,
I don’t think chicken meat will provide enough emulsification to combine my cake liquids
I look forward to this becoming the world’s first cat food that’s cruelty-free in both directions
I’m a vegetarian because I think meat is gross. Fuck morality.
That’s why I was a vegetarian for decades and that’s why I went vegan (plant based, if you want to quibble that it’s only veganism if it’s derived from morality, I don’t care). Somewhere along the line, I started caring about animals more. They’re not my primary political concern, but thinking about their treatment now makes me actively sad.
That’s very refreshing honesty :)
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