• derf82@lemmy.world
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    36 minutes ago

    No medieval city claims that. Hell, they are more walkable and transit oriented than more modern cities that were designed for cars. Stop with the straw men.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      28 minutes ago

      No medieval city claims that.

      Its a common enough argument in the UK. I’ve even seen a few instances in which bus stops have been taken down because people were complaining about the traffic they created (small street with no passing lane, so when the bus stops, the dozen cars behind it are bottled up).

      None of the busybodies trying to sabotage the local transit system seems to want to recognize the twelve cars behind the bus as the problem, of course.

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    1 hour ago

    If you don’t have room for busses now, when will you have room for all the parking required for everyone to drive a car around all the time?

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    9 hours ago

    Here in my town, they simply have a refurbished van with like 12 seats hauling people around.

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      I’ve seen those. In the suburbs here they often have call-ahead pickup to specific locations, like the only remaining mall or the library.

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    10 hours ago

    It’s not the medieval cities that fight tooth and nail to prevent public transit.

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      They don’t need to sit that many. It’s not an interstate route that runs thrice a day and carries 300 people in each run. For it to be an alternative to cars you need to have lots of route and they need to be quite frequent - which means less people in each minibus.

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      7 hours ago

      My hometown has very similar ones and they can hold up to 25 people adding up seating and standing space, don’t underestimate them

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    Cities should be transportation centric. Not just cars, not just bus, or bike, or walkable, it should be designed to fit them all together so people can use whatever they want and it’s not a headache. Cities currently are NOT car centric, otherwise traffic lights would be timed correctly by a standard that works. Cities are “create traffic” centric, and there is no intentional design going into making sure people can get from point A to point B under any circumstances. The metrics they currently use on traffic is how long people spend in it, so if you get frustrated and simply go home instead of running errands, they see that as a success. One less person. Instead of supporting local economies by making travel easier in general.

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      Cities are inherently car centric. Think about a typical crossroads controlled by lights. When the light is green, a car can enter the junction and can then leave in any direction (sometimes it has to wait for oncoming traffic, but it can always leave when the lights change again). When the light goes green for a pedestrian at the same junction, they can cross 1 road only.

      Fundamentally, the cars are in the middle. They don’t have to cross pavements (or cycle lanes) to turn. Everyone else has to cross the road.

      Of course, there are exceptions, where a junction has been designed so that, for example, pedestrians can cross diagonally. Likewise the cycle lane sometimes continues across the junction, but mostly doesn’t.

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    19 hours ago

    In case you missed the markings on it, it’s also free and runs on electricity, which in France is low carbon.

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      17 hours ago

      I wonder how much of the length cutting was just from being able to remove the ICE and all its associated components.

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        And the distinction is pointless. It’s a bus. It is. It simply is a bus. Some kind of bus.

        Bus.

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          Shuttles tend to be free of charge more often than buses, for various reasons. This shuttle being gratis does not imply that any other buses in the area are free.