• Frosty@pawb.social
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    To other Americans, I identify as a New Englander or a Masshole. :)

    To the outside world, I’ll probably say I’m from Boston first (I’m not, but it’s the closest big city the outside world might recognize) before saying I’m American.

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    Depends on who’s asking generally. If it’s someone from my state I say the town, if they’re from the US I say the state and if they’re from outside the US I just say American. But it really just depends on how specific the conversation is at the time

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    Generally the closest that’s relevant to who’s asking. e.g. if the one asking is from the same state, I will say the town. If it’s someone from another state, I’ll say the state, and from another country, I’ll just say the US.

    As for identify, I know this sounds pretentious, but generally “human” or “citizen of Earth”. I have no control over where I was born, and I’m more concerned with where I’m going in life than where I arbitrarily started. I’ve also never felt that I need to be proud of a place just because that’s where I’m from.

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      Interesting. Have you ever traveled to a place where people don’t speak English? Not being able to understand what’s happening around you definitely makes you realize you belong somewhere

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        Have never left the US (mostly due to being poor lol).

        That said, I work with a surprisingly diverse group at work (especially given the state I live in), speak somewhere between “vacation” and barely fluent Spanish, and have spent time immersed in other cultures (though still in the US).

        As far as language goes, I can generally pick up on that pretty quickly as long as it’s Latin-based. It may be very (sometimes very, very) broken when I speak it back, but I can typically at least get my point across and/or follow along and understand the gist of it. I also like the challenge.

        I guess my sense of belonging is a pretty flexible is what I’m trying to get at.

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    If I’m talking to a fellow American, I say I’m from New Jersey. If I’m talking to a non-American, I say I’m Canadian. (Kidding, mostly.)

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    I don’t identify as a US American.

    I identify as an American.

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    I realize that foreigners, in languages other than English, use terms that directly translate to US American. However our preferred nomenclature is American.

    When interacting with someone from another country, I identify as an American.

    When interacting with a fellow American, I identify as a resident of my state, where I have lived nearly my entire life, excepting times spent out of state & out of country while I was in the military.

    When interacting with a fellow resident of my state, I identify as a resident of the major city in whose suburbs I reside.

    When interacting with a fellow resident of the metro area, I identify with either the general region of the metro area or the specific municipality in which I actually reside.

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      I realize that foreigners, in languages other than English, use terms that directly translate to US American. However our preferred nomenclature is American.

      I usually use US American as Canadians and Mexicans are also Americans, and that can go all the way to Central and South America depending on how you divide continents

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          You won’t find many people who would seriously complain about that phrasing, but it would come off as awkward and stilted to most people from the US.

          Awkward, stilted, and a little holier-than-thou.

          And if you extrapolate this and start saying Mexico Americans and Canada Americans for people in those countries, you’re just going to confuse people

          Mexico American - doesn’t make sense

          Mexican American - American whose origins lie primarily in Mexico

          Canada American - doesn’t make sense

          Canadian American - American whose origins lie primarily in Canada

          Frankly, I think most Canadians would probably feel insulted if you addressed them as Canada Americans. They don’t want to be tainted by association with us.

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            Mexicans and Canadians have those demonyms, so no need to worry for them.

            Frankly, I think most Canadians would probably feel insulted if you addressed them as Canada Americans. They don’t want to be tainted by association with us.

            I’ve seen Canadians being okay with being called “North Americans”, when discussing something impacting both Canada and the USA, so it seems in this situations it’s fine by team. Canada Americans would indeed be strange.

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                The UK British example is interesting.

                Not British, so hopefully I’m not butchering this up.

                UK is Great Britain (so Scotland, England, Wales) + Northern Ireland.

                UK British in opposition to UK Northern Irish makes limited sense because both demonyms are enough to see who’s who (British vs Northern Irish). And if you want to go deeper, you can use Scottish, English, Welsh.

                To have a situation similar to America would be to have the English using British to only qualify themselves, disregarding Scottish and Welsh people.

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              Take this with a grain of salt bc small sample size, but I’ve also heard from South or Latin Americans that simply saying “American” = USA. It’s just that rest, I don’t know why.

              Language might be one reason, and Hollywood and other cultural exports, but also I think people there identify more with like a Global South than as part of the American continent.

              So to me it’s one of those things that you would think increase welcomingness and inclusivity, but for whatever reason in practice kinda somehow does the opposite (or not opposite, but just has the negative effect of sounding awkward without much of any positive benefit).

              But I’d be happy to be proven wrong if that’s actually the way it is. If you find out, please let us all know, maybe with a post about it!? :-D

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                Take this with a grain of salt bc small sample size, but I’ve also heard from South or Latin Americans that simply saying “American” = USA. It’s just that rest, I don’t know why.

                In English, I assume? Because in Spanish, they would usually use “Estadounidense” (https://dle.rae.es/estadounidense)

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                  I did strongly wonder if that is the reason why, but ultimately can only guess or relate from someone who actually knows:-).

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    I’m from a small town, so depends who I’m talking to?

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    I identify with my city a lot and you can’t get away from country. Im proud of my state currently and city but not so much my country.

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    I feel no connection to anywhere, not country, not state, not city, not my ancestors, not the human race, nothing. I don’t hate that stuff, it’s just like those are places and people like any other, not special or “mine” any more than some other group or place.

    Maybe it’s because I’ve lived all over the country. Maybe it’s because I’m not particularly fond of my birth place. I’m thoroughly American as far as enculturation, language, temperament, etc as I’ve never lived anywhere else, so it’s not like I’m a “stranger in a strange land” or something intriguing. It’s just blank. Null. That organ other people seem to have making them feel “at home” just never developed when I was in the womb., nor do I feel any need to have it.

    If I had to guess who “my people” were I think I’m more akin to something like a hermit. Lockdown showed me that a lot of people are genuinely different from me in terms of the needs they have. Even now that I’ve finally managed to acquire somewhat of a “hermitage” for myself I feel like its temporary steward rather than a place I “belong”. When I describe this to people they consider it sad, but I am quite happy.

    I did, after false starts, manage to find a partner that feels the same way, so I’m not “alone” or lonely. Her family was actively abusive and cutting ties was an excruciating process that left scars. Nothing like that ever happened to me. I still speak to my family, just not frequently. Again, not totally sure why. Perhaps whatever I have is genetic.

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      Interesting. Have you ever traveled to a place where people don’t speak English? Not being able to understand what’s happening around you definitely makes you realize you belong somewhere

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        Yes I have. I actually like being in foreign places, I hate traveling itself though so I have only done it a few times. Actually not speaking the language is kind of peaceful.

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    I live in Chicago, which is a major city. So I’d say Chicago, believe it or not, I guarantee more people are familiar with the city than Illinois.

    But if I lived somewhere else in Illinois, I’d say the state.

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      When I hear “Illinois”, I think generic midwest–agriculture, some manufacturing. When I hear “Chicago”, I think major metropolitan area. So you’re pretty spot-on.

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    Used to say I was American because it’s the truth, but since last month it’s been Californian, and I’ll be using that abroad in place of American