Dear Linux community,
In these unpredictable and often challenging times, I feel it’s more important than ever to pause and share heartfelt wishes. Merry Christmas to each and every one of you!
Let this holiday season be a moment of peace, where you can step back, breathe, and find some calm amidst the chaos. Take the opportunity to reconnect, reflect, and perhaps even find inspiration for the year ahead.
May your days be filled with joy, your systems stay secure, and your kernels remain stable. Here’s to a festive season full of positivity and open-source spirit!
Warm wishes,
Your fellow penguin at heart.
P.S.: I had very little time, so the whole thing, was AI accelerated! Please forgive me :-)
Taking the humanity out of christmas is an insult to it
Your AI acceleration makes the whole thing a lot less genuine.
yawn. So long as he used a local FOSS model there’s nothing wrong with AI.
Lots of downvotes in this reply chain. Not to be a “I don’t wanna be either side” kinda guy but AI isn’t all bad and isn’t all good either. (Greys!)
Merry Christmasing should be a genuine hug. Even if this was made by a homegrown open-weight open-dataset inference model, it’s nearly 100% low-effort generated – holidays need the human aspect, no? Covering yourself up too much in AI takes away from the humanness with corporate diction, and people need evidence of risktaking genuineness nowadays.
On the other hand, AI is definitely useful… but elsewhere. It’s not strictly anti-human even if conglomerates are using it that way, which I think you agree on. Wading through HOA using local NLP setups is human. Looking through a Mandarin thread when typical translation sucks, is human.
But there are domains for its use and there is ethical stuff to work on. This post just doesn’t fit the domain too well, as others agree…
It being proprietary isnt in the top 5 of the list of my problems with AI
The idea that AI is fine is anti-human
This is irrational and reactionary.
It’s a take based on an appeal to nature and noble savage fallacies propogated by neolibs and marketing teams making the “organic” play with their products.
AI is just a tool, it’s misuse by Corpos is something we all agree is bad, but by themselves tools do not make you or anyone else less human, nor do glasses make those of poor sight less human etc.
How the absurdity of making such a statement on a sub defined by an identity tied to a computer operating system is beyond me.
Be better.
Edit: and no it’s pointless to argue, nobody changes their minds, I’m just posting stuff like this so assholes I would like to have blocked come out and make themselves known as they always do.
merry Christmas friends ❤️🎄
It’s chrism
Nothing says “Linux” more than paying a megacorp to steal the hard work of artists…
I don’t know why everyone is saying it reads weird or its AI slop. To me it seemed pretty normal while reading, but I guess I’m so used to everything being written by AI nowadays I didn’t notice at first. How do you all spot it usually?
AI structure can be pretty obvious if you know which English weapons it loves to spam. Let’s walk it through (sorry for the wall of text lmfao):
I skip the image because the chimney mistake and overdone shading is obvious
- Corporate style.
- “In these unpredictable and often challenging times” – This is very corporate. How many messages have you seen like this during the pandemic? Buuut just because it’s soulless doesn’t mean it’s AI, but I wouldn’t expect it from a community of this archetype. (ai suspicion +1)
- Tricolons, especially ascending. (source)
- This is something ChatGPT loves. Essentially, there are three “things” in a sentence, sometimes clauses. Sometimes each one is larger than the last (ascending), e.g. “I honed my skills in research, collaboration, and problem-solving.” And it appears a lot even in this short snippet
- “…you can step back, breathe, and find some calm amidst the chaos”. The third element is longer. Ascension spotted. (ai suspicion +2)
- “May your days be filled with joy, your systems stay secure, and your kernels remain stable.” Elements are successively syllabically longer. Ascension spotted. (ai suspicion +2)
- “Take the opportunity to reconnect, reflect, and perhaps even find inspiration for the year ahead.” Third element is longer. Ascension spotted. How funny – three tricolons! Three three three three (ai suspicion +2)
- Obsession with superficial positivity.
- ChatGPT, even when making stories about evil, is very partial to love, friendship, joy, making up, peace, tranquility, (pseudo) “unconventional” friendship. Excessive meaningless positivity is an archetype too, though ChatGPT’s factgivings are usually neutral-positive.
- “more important than ever to pause and share heartfelt wishes” Share wishes. Would a human on c/linux say something like that without elaborating further about wishing for something, perhaps death to Windows users? (ai suspicion +1)
- “moment of peace” “find some calm” “positivity” “open-source spirit” but they never talk deeper, again. (ai suspicion +1)
So yeah this is at least 90% OpenAI. Too fuckin’ bad.
I will have to stop manually typing ascending tricons. LOL. I have used them often in correspondence and documents. It was a technique taught in English class.
Only if there’s too many is it a worry. I use it now and then bc I LOVE things in threes (I’m not Ben Affleck I swear), but…
in the above, the tricolon bonanza is insane – how can you fit that many in such a short text?
You probably don’t need to cut down :)
Saved, thanks
That was really helpful. Do you have any more tips on spotting ai generated text?
Sorry for the wall of text again c:
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AI text as a whole is usually structured, neutral-positive to positive shallowness. It’s called slop because it’s easy to make a lot of substanceless, nutrientless goo. One common structure is
Introduction
Since the dawn of time, ethics has been important.
AI Structure: Hidden Secrets Revealed
- Being considerate: Being considerate can help relationships.
- This structure: is untrustworthy. Be suspicious when you see it.
- Lots of broad statements: that don’t say anything—often with em-dashes.
Conclusion
In conclusion, while ethics can be hard, it is important to follow your organizations guidelines. Remember, ethics isn’t just about safety, but about the human spirit.
What do we spot? Sets of three, zero grammar mistakes (but useless grammar structures are allowed, but these are harder to spot), uncreative colon titles, SEO-style intros and conclusions, an odd corporate-style ethics hangup, em-dashes (the long —), and some of the stuff in that reddit link I mentioned are often giveaways.
Here’s some examples in the wild:
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Playing Dumb: How Arthur Schopenhauer Explains the Benefits of Feigned Ignorance. PeopleAndMedia. has useless headings and the colon structure I mentioned. There’s also phrases like “Let’s delve” and “unexpected advantage” – ChatGPT likes pretending to be unconventional and has specific diction tics like “Here’s to a bright future!” One interesting thing is that the article uses some block quotes and links – this is rare for AI.
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Why is PHP Used. robots.net. This is from a “slop site”, one that is being overrun by AI articles. Don’t read the whole thing, it’s too long. Skim first. See how many paragraphs start with words like “additionally”, “moreover”, “furthermore”, like a grade school English lit student? Furthermore (lol), look at the reasonings used:
The size of the PHP developer community is a testament to the language’s popularity and longevity.
PHP boasts a large and vibrant developer community that plays a pivotal role in its continued success and widespread adoption.
ChatGPT-esque vocabulary is used (this is something you unfortunately get a feel for), and the reasoning isn’t very committal. Instead of evaluating some specific event deeper, the article just lists technologies and says stuff like “PHP has comprehensive and well-maintained documentation, providing in-depth explanations, examples, and guides.” So what if there’s docs? Everyone has documentation. Name something PHP docs do better or worse. Look at this paragraph (SKIM IT, don’t read deeply):
CodeIgniter is known for its simplicity and speed. It is a lightweight framework that prioritizes performance and efficiency. CodeIgniter’s small footprint makes it suitable for small to medium-sized projects where speed is crucial. It provides essential features and a straightforward structure that allows developers to build applications quickly and efficiently.
It doesn’t actually SAY ANYTHING despite its length. The paragraph can be compressed to: “CodeIgniter has a light footprint”. It doesn’t even say whether we’re talking about comparative speed, memory usage, or startup time. It’s like they paid someone (openAI) to pad word count on the ensmallening I mentioned.
Before reading something, check the date. If it’s after 2020, skims to be too long and not very deep, and has too many GPT tics (tricolons, vocab like “tapestry/delve”, the SEO shit structure), then it’s AI slop. Some readers actively avoid post-2020 articles but I can’t relate.
- Corporate style.
Text may not be AI, image definitely is. Usually everything in AI images glows slightly, like here. And the placement of Tux in the sky has no rhyme or reason.
Also, what’s that L logo in a circle?
Lemocratic Party
Thank you!
So, the art is obviously AI slop, but is the post body also AI? Because it reads really weird.
The very generic message makes me inclined to think so too
You could have not using ai slop to illustrate your post.
Could they? What if they don’t have the skills to draw it themselves?
a mspaint black and white trackpad drawing would be better than this shit
I’d have taken a crayon drawing instead.
There’s something called a “stock image” and “editing tux onto the stock image”
I disagree with this sentiment; I’m inclined to believe that AI has actually lowered the bar for meaning.
Before AI, typically only skilled artists drew pictures for the web. But now that AI is making art that’s less meaningful than crayon pictures, there’s the growing sentiment of
I’d rather see a crayon picture than AI slop.
which could actually mean more people have the ability to go on and artify.
Of course this is anecdotal; it’s the reason I started drawing again :)
This is selective memory at best. There’s a lot of so-called art by real humans and text wishes that are way way worse than what OpenAI’s algorithms produce.
I’m not sure I agree but I’m happy to discuss! :)
Why are you calling my statement “selective memory” (am I intentionally excluding something?), and what do you mean by “way worse”? Do you consider unskilled art as not art at all (i.e. “so-called”)?
What I was trying to say, is that on social media, skilled artists formerly dominated attention (likes, upvotes) because viewers wanted well-constructed, pleasing-to-the-eye artwork. I wasn’t trying to say that they were the only art posters (sorry for my wording!). Continuing, now that AI is in the arena, “technically-decent” art is no longer the lower bound for pleasurable-to-see – now, viewers are more partial to knowing that a human was vulnerable when they expressed themselves with art.
It’s an intensification of internet-ugly aesthetic, which Douglas (2014) called "an imposition of messy humanity upon an online world of smooth gradients, blemish correcting Photoshop, and AutoCorrect” (p. 314). Now, online, handmaking art at all is a declaration of humanity, because you could corporately fake something full-colored and intricate, but arguably soulless, with lower effort.
Of course, I’ll try to take it from your perspective. I’ve seen really bad human art (I like art!), and I’ve seen less-artifacted AI art (have you ever seen Even_Adder’s generations on lemmy.dbzer0? they don’t have the overshading issue at all). Of course, some may disagree that the latter is art (is art only human expression?), but supposing I do consider the latter art, my point still stands – viewers are more on the lookout for genuineness now.
Happy to see what you think!
References
- Douglas, N. (2014). It’s supposed to look like shit: The internet ugly aesthetic. Journal of Visual Culture, 13*(3), 314–339. https://doi.org/10.1177/1470412914544516
A text post without a picture would achieve the same result just fine, without stealing work from artists and regurgitating it into a soulless, artifact-ridden and generally ugly picture.
So because they don’t have the skills they should steal and claim it as their own?
It’s just a sign of carelessness, a shitty drawing would mean more as OP would have put effort into it and willingness to learn a skill. And it’s not just the drawing, the text is AI as well, so OP just wants some free internet points with as little effort
good thing that you can learn skills.
Finally AI slop. Linux is now a fully grown corpo and therefore the year of Linux desktop is here
In these corporate times we can stay free, share the code, and help our neighbors. Together we can share the joyous spirit of friendship, hacking, and arguing endlessly over which distro is best. In conclusion, Linux provides us with many good things, and should be celebrated.
TempleOS is the only OS corpos won’t touch, It’s protected by a holy shield!
King Terry the Terrible is watching everyone that uses TempleOS and will execute anyone who misuses it with an A10 gun, the fist of God.
Nice idea but yeah, Ai stuff is a bit tacky. :)
Reminds me of “Ahh bro I’m offended by christmas its evil, take the santa cap off vlc”
