Looking for a Lemmy instance with the following :
- free speech friendly
- federated with all instances except csam
- allows bot majority communities
Edit: I would define free speech as speech that doesn’t make an actionable call for violence. If some one the extremist instances have defederated then that’s fine.
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So, I gather what you’re encountering is communities that are tossing out posts and comments that do not break any laws, on the basis that they find them distasteful. And you’re looking for an instance where communities will not do this, but that is also federated with all of the instances hosting the communities that are doing this.
But to what end? If you are still trying to interface with those communities, the posts will still be removed. Being on a “free speech instance” doesn’t insulate you from the rules of the communities you are engaging with. There’s only an issue if you’re finding yourself under pressure to change your own behaviour under threat of the admins banning you from the site.
You’re looking for a space where you will feel welcome, but where one of the key defining elements is making it easy to ignore that local space.
I’m not sure you’re presenting a coherent desire here.
I’m looking for an instance to move my community to where the admins will not intefear with how I moderate the speech on my community while still allowing people from other instances to interact.
You are not going to find “free speech” instances federated with everyone, because what you are looking for is an instance allowing bigotry and racism, things that most of lemmy don’t like.
I don’t like racism, but that doesn’t mean I want to forbid racist people from expressing their views.
Wait ive seen people giving sdf shit for their admins not nuking people content. What’s their policy like is it how they run things or just lax admins?
Nobody is stopping people from expressing their views, but we’re not obligated to view them, or give them a platform to say them.
Fucked up
They can still express their views.
Just not here.
So you are a racist. Got it.
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allows bot majority communities
Fucking why?
Also: Changing the definition of “free speech” doesn’t change how people will react to what you have to say. “Free speech” doesn’t mean “free to say things that piss people off without being kicked out of the group/location or beaten up.”
Your own instance. But don’t complain if you get defederated
I swear I have seen this “free speech instance” nonsense at least 3 or 4 times before this in the last month. All with similar combination of words. This is probably a same troll.
This is the first time I’m asking. I guess Lemmy is just getting more of the mainstream and I guess that’s going more towards free speech. BTW do u enjoy exercising ur free speech to shit on the concept of free speech
your concept of free speach is just bullshit, that’s all
Downvotes are free speech.
Yeah. That’s one of he reasons I don’t care how many I get.
downvotes arent allowed in freeze peach patriots
It’s pretty basic to understand why what you’re looking for doesn’t exist. Every instance that has rules for it’s own users will defederate from an instance that prides itself on breaking those rules. So you’re not going to find an instance that allows you to break the rules that most of the community agrees with while also being federated with everybody. You’d essentially have to create an entire alternate network.
I post this every time someone is looking for “free speech”, and it has been completely relevant every single time.
Ahh yes cos the American government invented free speech. Someone should really come up with a philosophical idea based on it hey?
“Free speech is I get to say whatever I want, and you have to sit there and listen to me!!”
That’s not free speech, that’s a hostage situation.
No, that xkcd is relevant because that’s exactly what free speech means. Your government won’t arrest you for saying stuff, but for the same reason you are free to speak, we are free to act within law against you.
And there is no law forbiding people from boycotting or unhosting or simply not listening to what you say.
You are free to speak, we are free to listen.
You’ll call some things free speech and others not. No instance is going to allow everything. You’d need to create your own instance so it aligns with your views. Then the other instances will decide whether they want your content or whether to defederate.
For example, I hope you wouldn’t consider planning how to exterminate Jews allowable free speech. There will always be limits on free speech, the question is where your limits are.
For the context: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37235684
OP, not sure you’ll find such a “free speech” instance among the popular ones. Maybe a smaller will accept you.
What about the one with that privacy community that got vetoed?
Went down. It was !privacy@links.hackliberty.org, right?
That was the one. Oh well, I’m outta ideas then. The Fediverse in general is a very trans safe community.
There is no such thing as ‘free speech friendly’. Free speech is not absolute, and is defined / restricted differently across countries. So different instances will have to comply with their different local laws.
Also: an instance allowing comments doesn’t mean there won’t be consequences. For example: you can criticise the Thai royal family all you want on a US based instance, but don’t ever show your face in Thailand after doing that if you value your freedom.
The instance you are imagining will inevitably be inundated with the output of spambots. You don’t want a completely unmoderated instance because it will just not be an enjoyable place (even for you! even for people who have no problem with getting exposed to “hate speech”!) to hang out on.
I think lemm.ee defederates from very little, that is the closest I know of, but I see that that’s already where you are, so I can’t help you much more than that.
From the lemm.ee sidebar “No bigotry”
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Don’t think bigotry means what ur think it means https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bigotry
idHt you dont need a freeze peach instance only a freeze peach community !chadmctruthstruth@lemmy.world
Freedom of speech means you can say what you want (within reason) and the government can’t stop you. It doesn’t mean that anyone has to listen.
If you want to engage in what is largely regarded as hate speech, see where trump and musk post, they’re pretty good at hating.
I’m unsure if there is an instance like that especially as you can’t force for something is completely open to anything being said from federating with everyone. You are probably better off creating your own Lemmy server tbh.
I’d be happy with majority federation and free speech like how I defined in my edit.
What is wrong with the instance you are currently on if I may ask?
The word Free Speech is often used to allow for hate / bigotry towards minorities in current day. So it’ll good to know what you are actually looking for.
Depends how u define hate/bigotry. Nothing wrong yet, I have a community on db0 but have been told to move cos I agreed with and didn’t silence someone saying they beloved trans women have an advantage in sport. Im looking for an instance that let’s speech go as long as it isn’t calling for violence or hate.
Most instances don’t allows spread of misinformation especially about minorities such as trans people. You’d be better off creating your own instance if you want to have 100% control over what you see.
For more information about that topic here’s an article about it: https://www.gendergp.com/new-report-confirms-trans-athletes-do-not-have-biomedical-advantage-in-elite-sport/
I’ve already read the paper that article cites. They say after 12months their is no differences between trans women and cis women of equivalent size and height in the same article they say those 2 things give an advantage, u can’t have ur cake and eat it. What you are also implying is that u have to undergo 12months or hormone treatment to be trans.
Dude.
Dude.
Just don’t, okay.
You don’t have the training or background to interpret the data on the subject, and have obviously not done due diligence on the matter. You are talking out of your ass based on not understanding what is going on.
Part of that is shitty writing on other people’s part; a lot of articles out there are written by people that don’t actually understand what they’re writing about, so when people read them, it gets even worse.
But there’s a bloody reason why nobody with a degree relevant to the matter of advantages or disadvantages of medical transition comes down as it being an inherent and universal advantage. It just isn’t.
I’m saying this because there’s a good chance you don’t intend to parrot bad information, that you think you’ve done enough reading on the subject to have a good grasp of it. But you haven’t. Stop trying to be some kind of free speech martyr and go back to the books. Go back and do more than just read pop science level articles.
Also, the “of equivalent size and height” part doesn’t mean what you think it means.
When two people of the same mass and height are equivalent, that means there isn’t an advantage in one of them being trans. A cis woman that’s taller and more muscled than their competitors has the same advantage as the trans woman. That’s what it means, that size matters, but transition doesn’t. There’s no contradiction in that.
Now, if you want to argue about how long after beginning hormone treatments a trans person needs to wait before competing in their sport of choice as their confirmed gender, that’s cool. But, since you don’t just change clothes and start competing as it is, you’ll find it’s a pointless argument.
The process of transition is longer and more complicated than you seem to think. People aren’t just jumping up, declaring that they’re trans and trying to compete with cis women the next day. It doesn’t work like that at all. By the time a trans woman or girl is competing against cis women, they have been undergoing hormonal treatment.
I’m gonna ignore ur condescending insults that are vaguely dressed up as educating. And get right to the point.
When two people of the same mass and height are equivalent, that means there isn’t an advantage in one of them being trans. A cis woman that’s taller and more muscled than their competitors has the same advantage as the trans woman. That’s what it means, that size matters, but transition doesn’t. There’s no contradiction in that.
I don’t think u quite understand the issue here. I agree a cis women of similar size and heigh to a trans women will be relatively equivalent.
I’m sure we can agree that a cis man will be larger and taller than a cis women (I shouldn’t need to specify but on average).
Given this and that the size and height are not significantly reduced post transition we can then conclude that a trans women will be larger and taller then a cis women. And ur paper acknowledges that a larger size and height are advantageous.
I think u may have missed the forest through the trees.
Ohh and I am absolutely qualified to read a scientific paper and interpret a graph.
The first amendment only applies to the government. Instances are free to do whatever they want.
Ahh yes free speech was invented by the American government. Someone should come up with a philosophical idea about it shouldn’t they.
As what has probably been said a million times, “free speech” is not some absolute thing.
i mean, philosophical ideas aren’t rights…
ronald reagan invented free speech liberal thats historic fact
