The precedent is sent. Abducting, killing, striking heads of state is now on the table. Make of that what you will, world.
Israel already killed Yemen’s president
Just remember that although these people may look and behave like devils, they are bags of meat no more durable than any other human.
putin, just fucking do it, capture zelensky
He has tried to capture/assasinate him for a while lol
I mean why wouldn’t you, would make the war easier to take out the other side’s leadership. Russia would’ve been stupid not to try
It’s a huge escalation, people don’t just assassinate heads of state like that, because the people giving the order would be heads of state who don’t want assassinating heads of state to be normalized.
But I guess it is now.
Ukraine would’ve lost a lot of fighting spirit of Russia had managed to take him out. Especially if they managed to capture him.
Wars aren’t won on ‘fighting spirit’.
They actually told Zelensky they weren’t going to target him. Early in the SMO he was afraid to leave his bunker. There’s no point targeting him because he’s not a real leader. The US is pulling all the strings. It’s why Russia doesn’t negotiate with Zelensky and negotiates with the US.
They also told they weren’t going to attack…
That’s nonsense. Zelensky is a moderate in his own country. He’d likely be replaced by a fascist.
The same goes for Putin. If he were killed, he’d be replaced by a nationalist who would probably drop a nuke in Ukraine.
Both are moderates in their own nations, and neither side desires a more unhinged leader across the table.
How would the war have gone worse for Russia after they took out Zelensky, what is the scenario the Russians are afraid of?
Always was, just countries with opportunities won’t ever take them
theres a very funny possible branch of the future where venezuela kidnaps trump too
What a grim and depressing thing to wake up to.
Been glued to the live news all morning, can’t unsee the bombed city. The billowing smoke gives me shades of Chile in 1973:
One thing I’ve been thinking about is if the rest of the MIC is using Trump to do unpopular stuff on their behalf, and then when he keels over, Dems, European leaders, and others can turn around and declare “a time for healing” or whatever other bullshit they put out while holding onto the imperial gains. This would basically be the same as what happened with Bush Jr. I fucking hate it.
Absolutely, it almost feels like a now or never effort before a democrat inevitably gets in. More than just Bush Jr though, I feel like that’s been the cycle for decades upon decades in most western countries since the 1940’s. The right get in, make a shit load of changes unimpeded, and then democrat equivalents regain a few meaningless scraps. Then the right get in again.
Ratchet effect working as intended.
There is a theory out there that Cuba is the ultimate target here (cutting off Cuba from Venezuela economically). I’m not sure I believe that if we’re talking overall strategy but I can see that as Rubio’s personal mission, though.
It is. Rubio wants to make Cuba an American colony.
Yeah, same
Infinite death to AmeriKKKas forever
Not long until the Venezuelan taliban emerge from the caves and stab the occupiers in the throat. At least that’s what I hope for. An insurgency. I don’t care who funds it. I’m a full-blown sociopath at this point and Trump must pay. I hope his supporters protest. If I was in the US right now I’d be visiting all the Trump supporters in their 20s and 30s and I’d tell them to act now. Protest at the White House and call for Trump to be removed.
I hope his supporters protest. If I was in the US right now I’d be visiting all the Trump supporters in their 20s and 30s and I’d tell them to act now. Protest at the White House and call for Trump to be removed.
Yeah, I’m sure this is the last straw for them, they’ll definitely turn on him, Drumpf is finished!
In any case, this will make it much easier for china and russia to justify their plans. This isn’t a victory for trump and especially not for America.
The US just bombed a country and (supposedly) kidnapped its leader and wife.
You: What about China and Russia tho?
I think they meant it in a positive way
It’s possible that I misinterpreted, but talking about Russia and China having ”plans” is something that has a certain feel to me. Especially if your last comment contained the absurd assertion that Trump supporters could start protesting at the White House over an attack on Venezuela.
Based on the username, it’s a new zealander. They’re settler colonists, so of course they’re being a
libThis is part of a big power competition and that’s the only way to see it. But there will be idiots who think that Trump is great. He’s going to stop the drugs and election fraud by invading venezuela. Wait a few days and see what ridiculous opinions emerge. Americans won’t benefit from this and will lose on the long run. Rules based order my ass.
Rules based order my ass.
When the US talks of a rules based order they mean “we make the rules and you take the orders.”
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The EU is so fucking satanic. I hope nothing but the worst for them. That their quality of life goes even further to shit, that the albatross around their neck of Hungary becomes heavier. They deserve nothing but contempt and suffering.
Burgers only protest when they see bodybags, and even then, when they themselves can plausibly be in bodybags
Dark times. I hope the fumble this one just like they did some two decades ago with Chavez but I don’t have high hopes.
With Chavez he always remained in the country. I think in this case, if it’s true he’s been successfully captured and flown out by the US, it might be over for Maduro. The rest of the government remains.
What happens now is the real question. These people think Machado will peacefully ascend to power and open the floodgates to looting, but the military is Maduro loyal and the people are organized into armed militias.
If the shoe was on the other foot we would issue an ultimatum of 24 hours for the presidents safe return.
I just don’t see how this ends well. Maybe the military sees the writing on the wall and rolls over?
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I think they just got steamrolled
Was treason necessary for his position to be known to the US ahead of time?
Given that the US had intel on Maduro’s location, the necessary steps to capture and extract him were to deny the local air defences, neutralize his personal guard (did he even have one at the time of capture?), and extract. I don’t know how the extraction happened, but it’s not the first time US spec ops carry out an extraction from deep in enemy territory. No reason to think this was impossible without inside collaboration.
Fair point I’ll delete my comment since it’s pure speculation based on frustration
And he has not really primed a successor. In all this time he needed to make a contingency, and now it is all up in smoke. The US gets to feel tough, and the whole world sees that resistance is nonexistent/futile.
The vice president appears to have taken control and the rest of the government is intact.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
When is the world gonna sanction the US as hard as they’ve done Russia?
Petition to refer to this and all upcoming US wars of imperialism as “special military operations” when talking to libs, just so it will get under their skin by highlighting their opportunistic, selective antiwar and anti-“dictatorship” political posturing.
I’ve seen American chuds argue in the past that the US has never lost a war (this was a long time ago, before Afghanistan and Iraq) because Vietnam wasn’t a war, it was a ”military operation”.
Same here. They still do it, and the even claim that it was a “withdrawal” from Vietnam after achieving their goals (??) and not a defeat as well.
They do something similar for Afghanistan too.
When someone is that deep in the trashcan of ideology I don’t think there’s any reasoning with them tbh. Best to just close the lid and walk away. We can talk about what objectives were achieved in these wars, sure, but if you want me to agree with you that these wars were victories for the US then I’m afraid I’m just not capable of that level of suspension of disbelief.
This isn’t a neighboring country so it’s fine to attack for some reason.
Kinda hard to sanction the country that prints the currency the world economy uses. If dedollarization had somehow happened, it might be conceivable. Even then, the west is structured, by design, as a hierarchy of subservience to the US, economically, militarily, even ideologically.
edit: I know you were drawing a comparison to the west’s reaction to Russia’s intervention in Ukraine to highlight the hypocrisy. I’m just sayin’.
It’s getting harder by the day not to fedpost, but I really do fucking hate these YanKKKee scum.
I know the feeling of trying really hard to hold it in, because I wish nothing but bullets to the head of the criminal imperialists and their accomplices.
Make sure to start using the phrase “Venezuela has the right to defend itself” IRL in the coming days.
People have been saying this.
I want to point out that the reason that Trump kidnapped Maduro is because Trump believes that the US owns Venezuela’s oil fields.
His bribers who instilled Rex Tillerson, former EXXON CEO, in his first term is buthurt they were kicked out of
because they didn’t want to pay a fair price for the oil.This is like Mossadegh in 1953 all over again.
Only now the quiet part has been said out loud already.
The US is a pathetic bully and a blight on the free world
Can’t stand this line being parroted about how ‘8 million refugees fled the Maduro regime’, when the reality is that they fled a country whose economy was being strangled by the USA to the point of collapse. The USA openly admits they were essentially holding the Venezuelan people hostage by destroying the economy - presenting two options: live in poverty or overthrow Maduro.
If this ends in a new right wing Venezuelan comprador government, there will be an ‘economic miracle’, and the west will report that Venezuela has been saved. The reality is that the sanctions would be taken off the economy, and a large extraction of wealth would take place within the oil sector, thus inflating GDP. In the short term, the people of Venezuela will see an increase in quality of life - a quality of life they never would have lost in the first place were it not for U.S encirclement. I’m sure a lot of Venezeulans won’t fight the change in government because it means a (perhaps temporary) reprieve from poverty, and peoples material circumstances are, as we all know, the bottom line.
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How odd. Libs who were acting like Trump was the spawn of all evil and the sole fascist actor in all of American politics are now buddying up with reactionaries in supporting Trump and invading another sovereign country to steal their resources while pretending it’s all for the greater good? I’m shocked! Positively shocked!
Fuck these libs istg
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It’s mostly CIA botting
“I disagree with Satan, however, I have fallen for all of Satan’s lies”
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Colombia President Gustavo Petro new tweet translated
https://xcancel.com/petrogustavo/status/2007386206292545629#m
A small correction. In paragraph 3 it’s not “how members”, it’s “as members”
So only talk of refugees. Fuck, not even going to posture that they oppose the US. It will be Petro tomorrow. The pink tide is dead
l didn’t expect 2026 to not be crazy dogshit.
But COME ON, its only just 2nd of January…
Remember how 2020 started with this new disease going around and the inferno in Australia?
And killing Soleimani
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2026 has been a long fucking year.
They’ve got Vanessa Neumann - Guaido’s former official ambassador to the UK - on BBC news spouting nonsense about how it’s a non violent operation, and is a restoration of democracy. She said her points unchallenged and then was like ‘as I said in my last 10 televised interviews with you’. Impartial news moment.
Damn I knew the US had some impressive military hardware but their pioneering development of “non-violent” bombs is something else!
They’re gonna do him like Saddam, aren’t they
They might even just do a public execution for the show
Good to see that Kirk’s flame is still being carried.
If they do they’ll gag him. Can’t risk him making a passionate speech before he’s killed.
