• SokathHisEyesOpen@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    I never understood why Al acts like having sex with his hot wife is a chore. Boomers sure are different.

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    Reddit once voted the end of an ep of Archer as the greatest moment in TV history or some such.

    The moment in question was a shot-for-shot homage to an episode of Magnum PI. No one seemed to acknowledge this.

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    It does also require a knowledge of the acting credits of Leela’s voice actress, though.

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      I actually had forgotten that Leela is Katey Segal. I thought it was funny without that extra context.

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        Unfortunately I’m exceptionally good at matching voices. I knew it was Peg Bundy before I finished episode 1, and then I went online to verify that.

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          Right? Can’t remember names to save my life but I can pick up voice recognition easily it seems.

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    That was one of Futurama’s weaker episodes even if you understand the actor allusion. If you don’t get the reference, a lot of screentime is spent on a couple of the characters behaving in slightly strange ways for no apparent reason.

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      It’s one of my favorites (when I saw it two decades ago) but I guess I get the references. I just thought Fry pretending not to know what a video game was and the internet being full of ads and sex still relevant? Bender also stealing everything was a delight.

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          I remember the joke before that being:

          “this statue’s only got one eye”

          “lazy sculptor”

          then when the “no eyes” bit came up … I was cracking up.

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        The internet being full of ads and sex is still relevant (ads possibly moreso) but yeah it’s not as fresh as it was. If anything the Napster episode aged worse than the plain internet one, but I think it holds up as an episode better.

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      Married With Childrens last episode aired in 1997 so it was in recent memory, and I’m sure you could watch a rerun of MWC same day this episode aired (March 19, 2000).

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        …if you cared to, which at least some of the audience likely did not. I’m sure the demographics of a live action present day dysfunctional family sitcom and a sci-fi cartoon don’t perfectly overlap.

        Then 23 years went by.

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      I guess it depends on how restrictive your parents were with TV access, Millennials born between 1990 and 1995 could have easily seen Married with Children and then Futurama and understood the reference from a young age, but Gen Z wouldn’t be very likely to see Married with Children at all, and I dispute the existence of a Gen Alpha yet because there is no way Gen Z are old enough to have kids with opinions in any sizeable demographic so therefor it isn’t a generational gap.

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        Married With Children would have ended when millennials were somewhere between 16 and 1.

        It doesn’t really matter how strict your parents were with TV. Most millennials weren’t really in the target demographic for it when it was airing; they’d have been more likely to be watching Rugrats, Power Rangers, All That, Dragon Ball Z or whatever if left to their own devices.

        They’d have watched it if it were something their parents watched. I literally never deliberately turned on Friends or Will And Grace, but since my parents watched them, I saw a bunch of them. Married With Children wasn’t a show my parents followed, though, so the Futurama episode would have gone over my head.

        It really seems like a reference aimed mostly at the oldest millennials, gen X, and boomers.

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          I tell you what, I didn’t exactly stick to age appropriate television from a young age. I could be an outlier, I guess.

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          As someone who watched rugrats and dbz, All that, and a Lil power rangers…YOURE FLIPPING WRONG! I also watched the heck out of MWC and also Roseanne.

          • Older Mellinial
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        I’m only 27, not American and I had never heard of married with children before. I can remember watching fresh Prince of Bel air and friends (repeats) and some other shows. Plus I’m on the oldest end of gen z and if I’d had a kid at 16/17 then they’d certainly be old enough to have opinions.

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          They’d be 10 so probably not opinions that matter, no. But if you were born in 1995 then I don’t think your parents were millennials, were they?

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        I am refiering to generation alpha. (2010 on since there is not really an agreed on date.)

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          To be Gen Alpha you must be the child of Gen Z who had to be the child of Millennials.

          So if you agree that a millennial was born in 1980 and had kids at 18 who then had a kid at 18 then a Gen Alpha would be like 6 or 7 years old maximum.

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              Listen if there is no generational gap between you and boomers, then you’re just a Gen X, mate. One generation to the next, no skipping.

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                  Do you know what the word Generation means? Literally in no other context is it defined that way, but you’re using Wikipedia as a source so clearly I don’t expect you to have any learning capacity at this point. Maybe you really are Gen Alpha at your mommy’s tablet.

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            Yes, as I have nephews that are gen alpha, that is how that works. You have kids now that are not gen Z and are around 10 that never knew MWC. Just because someone is young does not invalidate their status as people (yet, don’t give them any ideas).

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              The problem is there are people in the comments who seem to think they’re Gen Alpha, Millennial, or Gen Z without realizing they skipped generations in their calculation.

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                Yes and yet you are the only person that seems to think this is how generations work, that somehow you can skip at all.

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    Nonsense. Cultural history transferrence is a thing, I did not have to have watched Gilligan’s Island or the Honeymooners to get the references in every 80s tv show, it became clear from the context and its own meta joke.

    So no, just like a GenX-er did not need to have been a Baby Boomer to undestand the “One of these days Alice, Bang! Zoom! Straight to the moon!” reference, a Gen Z-er can quite easily get references about Gen X series from the frequency and context they encounter them.

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      I can confirm this. I am a huge fan of Mystery Science Theater 3000. I am Gen X. They were self-described “post-boomer(s).” I didn’t get some of the references to pop culture older than me, but often the delivery made it funny anyway. And people much younger than me who love the show feel the same way.

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        Tbh one of the coolest parts to me is that I can learn about other old movies and stuff that they reference, and then when I rewatch the mst3k ep I get other jokes that didn’t hit for me watching the first time.

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      My mom (border of gen x and boomer) explained all the references to me when I was a kid watching Futurama for the first time. Honestly, Futurama and seeking out information related to the references (either my parents would tell me or I’d look it up in the 2010s when I really started having access to the internet) is probably the biggest way I learned about past culture. At this point I’m explaining the references to my kid but he really is just so far removed from it. Because they’re from like 4 generations ago and have been referenced so much since. Still interesting but I do feel like it, “hits different” as the teens say.

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      Not to mention, streaming services are just about everywhere. If you look at the right time, sometimes you can even find entire seasons of shows on YouTube.

      Do some of the people from older generations commenting suddenly forget about the rest of the internet or what? Lol

      Some of us also have parents who collect DVD, CDs, Blu-Rays and more. I find it hard to believe that an entire generation would just be unaware especially with how all over the place media is

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      Leela’s voice actress played Peggy Bundy on Married with Children. Ed O’Neill played Al Bundy and is playing the shape shifter pretending to be one of Leela’s supposed alien race (she’s not an alien, but she didn’t know that yet then). They are re-enacting the look and dynamic of Married with Children in this scene.

      EDIT: I was mistaken, the voice actor is not Ed O’Niell, as kindly pointed out below.

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        Is that Ed O’Neill? Shit I never made that connection, he sounds way different.

        Futurama, Modern Family, Wayne’s World. Guy is an American national treasure.

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          It was not Ed O’Neill. He was voiced by David Herman, who also voiced Scruffy and Leela’s father.

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        Incase you still don’t, it’s referencing a late 80s to mid 90s sitcom Married with Children. It’s surprisingly good. Katey Segal who voices Leela played one of the main characters, Peggy.

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          i recognized all the characters, but my TIL was that they were preformed by the same actress 🤯

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          Well I didn’t get it at first but I certainly watched married with children. Mainly because there wasn’t anything else to watch at the time on TV.

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      The voice actor for Leela (Katey Sagal) played Peggy Bundy in the tv show Married… with children, which was hugely popular in the 90s. The above picture was a very common scene from the tv show. Peggy with huge hair, sitting on the couch with her husband watching tv and eating junk food. So, it’s a fun reference to her previous work.

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        In my headcannon Peggy left Al behind and joined up with a biker and his gang, creating a whole new life for her. Al meanwhile took the kids, left chicago for california and used his knowledge about sales to create a solid closet company. Out of that lead infested house, Kelly got her act together and met Phil - while Bud Was finally done with overcompensating.

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        So, it’s a fun reference to her previous work.

        So then not a joke, but a reference. I understood the reference but failed to see the joke. Maybe I am just overly pedantic.

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          No worries! I always thought of a “joke” as something that was intended to make me laugh. When I first saw this, I laughed as I didn’t expect a reference to her old show. So I personally consider it reasonable to call it a joke. Either way, this all has made me want to go back and watch an episode or two of Married with children. Cheers!

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          I watched this Futurama episode back when it aired and was disappointed to see this reference make it to the screen. It wasn’t clever and they spent too much time on it. The term “cringe” has managed both to come into and go out of vogue in the intervening years.

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          Yep. You’re the type of motherfucker nobody enjoys having a conversation with.

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      Katey Sagal speaks both Charakters and play one real and in this episode…

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    Well, I now need rule34 of Leela as Peggy, specifically those clothes with the top pulled down.