I’ve had turkey just about every possible way it can be cooked, and it just isn’t that good.
Doesn’t matter how juicy or dry and it doesn’t matter what herbs or spices are used, it just not that tasty.
Give me a brisket or a standing rib roast or just about anything that isn’t turkey for thanksgiving.
Thought you were talking about the country at first
Who says he isn’t?
But have you been to Istanbul with rosemary in your pockets!?
All hungarians were hungry to see this comment
Glad I’m not the only one
Yeah I was going to say I assumed he meant the country, perhaps as a holiday destination 🤦♂️
Since Erdoğan is there, it s been a shit show. Waiting for better times to enjoy it
He needs to be baked at 350 for 1 hr/lb.
Because everyone only eats it once, maybe twice a year, nobody knows how to properly cook a turkey. Combine that with the only turkeys being butterballs from a grocery store and it’s no wonder you don’t like it.
A properly cooked, quality turkey is incredibly good and is one of my favorite meats. Definitely prefer it over chicken or other poultry
Yeah grocery store turkeys are the blandest factory farmed things on earth lol. There’s a reason why you can get them on sale for like 80¢/lb.
It’s actually because it’s a loss leader. Most consumers aren’t just going to buy a turkey. They’re getting all of those other fixins that go with it, and those prices are pretty minimal and steady no matter the store. Even cheaper by the pound, it’s probably gonna be the most expensive thing you buy for a Thanksgiving meal. But most people are going to need one. People know all of this, so they shop for the best deal on turkey. That gets them in the door and since they’re already buying, they go ahead and buy all the other things they need to prepare. They almost definitely lose money on those turkeys by themselves but make more money overall by selling them cheap. And for chain stores, the individual store isn’t eating those costs. Those losses get written off and corporate eats the loss.
And sure, there are better quality turkeys, but you’re gonna pay through the ass because those farms aren’t producing at the same scale and can’t sell to the stores for less, and there definitely wouldn’t be enough to go around for all the people buying turkey every year. But if more people buy from those small farms, they can’t upscale that same process to cover all those turkeys, so they’ll resort to factory farming as well to keep up with the demand. It’s very much a similar problem as complaining about traffic when you are also traffic. The only solution is to opt out but we live in a society and opting out can have consequences.
All of that is an excellent point. I’m only speaking to the quality though.
It’s probably a good thing that everyone can get a turkey for thanksgiving for $15, and you can make them taste very good. If they really just sucked then people wouldn’t still be buying 100 million turkeys a year lol. The cheap ones are perfectly fine for the vast majority of people.
I’m more speaking to OPs point of rather having a brisket or standing rib roast over turkey for thanksgiving. Both of those are extremely expensive compared to a turkey. Cheapest standing rib roast I saw even at Costco was $130 and a brisket will run you upwards of $50 at Costco and well over $100 at most regular grocery stores most of the time too. For those prices you absolutely within range of buying from a high quality producer and the difference will be night and day from a mass produced butterball.
Definitely not everyone can afford that, nor could production ever keep up that high quality to meet mass demand either. But for someone already willing to spend $100+ for their main thanksgiving meat, trying a very high quality turkey might be worth it.
I’d be happy to find some way that turkey could be prepared that I would be amazed with. Really, I would. But I’ve been disappointed time after time. And it’s not like it was ‘bad’ turkey or whatever, other people would seem to be really enjoying it. So, I felt like somehow I just ‘didn’t get it’.
There’s plenty of ways I like chicken and duck, but for me beef or lamb are what really satisfies me.
I’ll have it again I’m sure, but I’d never request it or make it for myself.
I did a lot of research before hosting a decade ago, and have now had to host all future thanksgivings since I am apparently the only one in the family who can make a decent turkey. Read on at your own risk:
- Turkey bag or a covered roasting pan is a must. Turkey gets very dry easily.
- Carefully lifting the skin away from the meat (without ripping it!) will allow you to put an entire stick of herb butter between the meat and the skin.
- Flavor injectors are another essential. Just a salty mix of basically Worcestershire sauce and vegetable oil and garlic and pepper. About a half cup total injected all the way in the meat every few inches. Back the injector out partway and push back in on a new path a few times for adequate coverage.
- Inside the bag or roasting pan should have some veggies. These cook down to help make a better gravy but I think also just provide more steam to keep the turkey moist.
- Sliced apple in the neck might be a myth but I do it anyways haha.
- Meat thermometer to make sure you don’t overcook it. Should be slid into the meat like a millimeter away from the inside cavity in the thickest part of the turkey.
- Let the turkey “rest” in the pan or bag for an hour after you pull it out of the oven, otherwise the very hot juices will just evaporated away when you start carving.
- Carving direction matters. YouTube it. Basically, you remove half of the entire breast in one go and put that on a cutting board and cut it like a bread loaf.
Seriously I used to hate turkey but with all the above I actually look forward to it.
Have you tried smoked? It really is nice. But generally yeah, I’d rather just eat a nice vegetarian dish than a bland turkey.
Dry brined and smoked turns out incredible each time.
“Butterball” sounds so good though
Just add butter to your turkey! Butter makes everything better. I think chefs would consider it sacrilegious for me to do so, but I even add a little bit of butter to duck. Helps it crisp up nicely.
+1 to this
We use 2-3 sticks of butter (+smoked paprika/salt) minimum to coat the outside of the turkey. Seals in a ton of moisture and makes it much better.
Turkey is cheap, and can be cooked a variety of ways. It’s an amazing food source. Last year I brined a turkey breast for Thanksgiving, this year I’m doing a lemon-herb butter rub.
Before cooking my own turkey, it was just whatever my grandparents or inlaws made for thanksgiving, and it was usually dry and bland. You can do better and you should do better. That bird died for you, and you have a duty to make it delicious.
It is called Türkiye - Turkish people are quite adamant about it by now… I consider it silly though …
Yeah and everyone needs to start calling Germany Deutschland.
Or Little Turkey lol
Tell me you’ve only ever had overcooked turkey without saying you’ve only had overcooked turkey. Moistness is not a certain sign of properly cooked.
It’s just impossible that he has a preference? What a stupid take.
Nah fam this is like the “I don’t like vegetables” crowd who’ve only had boiled or steamed vegetables and thinks that’s the only way they taste
“I don’t like vegetables” vs “I prefer other meats to turkey” is vastly different. I agree that the I don’t like vegetables people are dumb, but comparing that to this is a huge straw man. I guarantee you that I would vastly prefer the best brisket in the world to the best turkey.
If it’s that hard to cook most people haven’t had it and liked it… it’s still bad. It’s easy to cook a delicious chicken in an air fryer.
That’s like saying that poison fish (fugu?) isn’t good because the average joe can’t prepare it without killing the whole dinner party.
To be fair, I have had fugu in Japan and it is incredibly bland. People are only interested in it because it’s poisonous if you don’t prepare it just right.
Agreed. Turkey was a fine meal for settlers. Better things to eat nowadays. “But…but… it’s tradition!” they say. Well, so is the Running of the Bulls in Spain and most people wouldn’t do that!
Comparing eating turkey to running with a bunch of bulls is hilarious
Most of the bulls are extremely confused why are a bunch of two legged mammals running around and screaming at them.
I applaud each maiming.
Don’t mess with the bulls.
I’m going to agree with you. Turkey is just not that great.
I shared your opinion until I recently had a properly smoked turkey for the first time. It was juicy and smokey and incredibly flavorful.
Because of the smoke. But while I don’t have as strong a feeling as op on this since it’s very much a first world problem, turkey really has a bland, inoffensive taste while I could smoke a rat to be delicious.
Hey you the guy selling smoked rats?
[Whips open one side of long coat revealing a display of smokey smelling rats]
Mesquite, hickory or applewood?
Post oak?
That’s probably because they’re domesticated and bred for breast size and not flavor. The same thing happened to pork.
You can fix this by brining the turkey and adding aromatics to the chest cavity before roasting if you don’t have a smoker.
My point is, if you gotta do that, it’s not good meat.
If that’s the case then chicken, pork, and most cuts of beef aren’t “good meat” either. I can’t think of a food that doesn’t benefit from added flavor. Even pork belly gets cured and smoked to become bacon.
I guess wild foods have flavor without needing cooking and seasoning. But a lot of cooking techniques are there to disguise their gamey flavor.
Fair enough. Good food is good food. And I wouldn’t say no if I thought there was a chance it could be amazing. But I would also never request it, nor would I decide to make it myself.
I’ve had turkey roasted, brined, smoked and fried. People eating it would say “Mmmm this turkey is AMAZING!”, and I’d be interested thinking this would be the time that I’d like turkey. But each time I’m left with a plateful of disappointment and sadness, and I’m thinking my friends and family are insane.
Could just be that my tastebuds aren’t tuned for turkey.
I liked how the original sub had food as a banned topic because everyone’s taste buds are different
Yeah, I could understand difference in tastebuds being a thing, but why ban it if everyone is respectful. I guess I can see that some people might get a little too heated about it.
I don’t begrudge anyone that likes turkey, and I’ll probably try it again hoping to not be disappointed. Maybe one day I won’t be. So far that hasn’t been the case.
For me thanksgiving is about being with people I care the most about.
I never had turkey (it simply is not a thing here), but I guess with a dish that is a) only made once per year and b) size-wise far out of the ordinary daily cooking experience, this will lead to a lot of below average experiences.
It’s basically a giant chicken with minimal flavor. It tastes of whatever seasoning you use, just like some shitty supermarket tofu.
OK, so I never missed a thing.
Smoked turkey legs 🍗 ftw
I like it outside of the holidays. Turkey is my preferred sandwich.
i felt this way and then my aunt tried seasoning the turkey in a new way and -oh man- does it taste FANTASTIC.
can’t wait for tonight!
Goose is the better turkey.
Absolutely.
Also duck.
