Difference was that when trump was in charge, there was wall to wall coverage of the atrocities US was committing. Then when genocide joe got in charge, crickets.
He said the line!
Hey grown up, your very serious Last Bulwark Against Fascism is shitting his depends and committing a genocide. You’re a genocide supporter. You’ll never get clean from this.
If you have a better polical system to replace this one then the floor is yours.
I do, it’s called communism and it’s what lifted over 800 million people out of poverty in China in just the past few decades. One has to be laughably ignorant to even ask such an absurd question.
China is a capitalism. China also has camps for Muslims and a 1 child policy that murdered a lot of kids. They have a system that watches their people and rates them.
China is not a capitalism, but given your other comments it’s not surprising that you have no clue about China. Maybe spend a bit of time educating yourself instead of spewing nonsense on topics you have no clue about.
if the mode of production gets some blame for individual crimes (as it should) this comparison is not going to come out in favor of capitalism. you just ignore the lives that were improved by socialist policy and ignore social murder when it’s done by capitalists. (btw the 1 child policy ended in 2016, your information is out of date)
Awesome, yeah, you’re so right! I’m going to go vote in an American socialist to be president. Oh, you’re telling me that the entire American political establishment has made this course of action impossible by setting all manner of social institutions, from the press to the criminal justice system, in direct opposition to socialism? You’re telling me every single attempt to establish socialism by democratic means has been subverted and squashed by military operations backed by the US government and the US intelligence apparatus? And that these blatant affronts against democracy are still celebrated by reactionaries in Guatemala and Chile who spent decades murdering leftists for their brief time as the dominant political group, for the horrible crime of putting the means of production in the hands of peasants and workers?
You’re telling me that the only successful attempts at establishing a proletarian state had to “anti-democratically” suppress bourgeois political parties to maintain stability in the face of American imperialists? And that all avenues of peaceful revolution have been tried and inevitably lead to the forceful encounter and resolution of the historical dialectic between classes through violent revolution, just as much as this was the case in every major change of mode of production in history?
Dear golly me then, looks like those Marxists in Palestine, Cuba, the Philippines, Laos, Vietnam, the Soviet Union, China, North Korea, Burkina Faso, South Africa, Angola, and countless other countries that fought off colonizers aren’t just savages who weren’t capable of understanding the noble ways of the Western Left, and liberal democracy isn’t the way for workers to achieve political power. You’re not going to dismantle the master’s house with the master’s tools.
Buddy you are not doing democratic socialism any favors by being a racist piece of shit condemning immigration and then labeling yourself as a democratic socialist.
The people here already have a very very poor view of democratic socialism and you could not have just done a better job of reinforcing their point.
Funny BC I see a lot of news about biden, isreal, and Palestine.
So there’s wall to wall anti-Israel coverage of the genocide from the mainstream media? There’s no media support for Biden and Israel, and all the outlets are reporting the atrocities accurately and with the appropriate language? So basically there’s no pro-genocide media anywhere to be seen in the west, is that your claim?
You know news is global now in days. We have the internet. Yes, there is coverage of what isreal is doing and how the US is supporting the genocide in the Gaza. Also how other countries are also supporting isreal.
Now does the US have a media monopoly problem that is supported by certain groups? Absolutely. Your point is both do it but one gets a pass which is not true.
There’s only like 3 major news outlet that are covering the conflict without just taking the IDF at their word: Al Jazeera, Middle East Eye, and sometimes Reuters. Al Jazeera has been the best but Israel has banned them from reporting in Israel. The US State Media has continued to report lies about the genocide like Hamas being the aggressor here, Oct 7th being unprovoked, etc. They fail to report on major events like Israel’s strikes on aid convoys, schools, and hospitals, yet when they do report on these conflicts they get their lines from the IDF who claim these civilian targets are Hamas, or that Hamas is using them as shields.
Acting like the media has been fair or free with regards to this genocide is pretty unhinged, you have to admit that they’re 100% complicit and that it’s very difficult for people who aren’t already clued in to left Tik Tok or other sources of news from a left wing perspective to get an accurate view of what’s happening.
Cmon man. Mainstream press has been nonstop talking about how Biden is upset at Netanyahu, how he gave him a stern talking to, how Rafah invasion would have been a red line, how he is trying to broker a peace deal (that Hamas put forth and Israel outright rejected), etc. etc. while Biden is giving Israel god knows how many tonnes of bombs per day. If you think Biden is getting the heat he deserves for perpetrating a genocide then you are off your rockers. If it wasn’t for the multitude brave protestors the media would have probably even cheered for Biden’s role in this brutal ethnic cleansing.
So you’re saying liberals would support Trump like they support Biden and publicly back everything the cheeto does because their “way of life and money aren’t affected”?
So Biden and Trump are equally popular and liberals don’t care who wins?
So you’re saying that I’m say that everyone likes both the same?
No, if we had a more “extreme” canadate that supported higher taxes on wealthy, more social programs/finances for needy, build houses for homeless, tax corporate greed, and stop being the center of everyone else’s world, yes they will flip to his side.
Awesome, I thought again, and the genocide is still happening. Looks like failing to think beyond electoral politics is useless as always.
If all the choices you’ve been offered lead to countless children getting slaughtered to make Lockheed Martin and Boeing more money, you have a human duty to reject that system and wield political power outside of it you spineless lib.
If you think trump would be different, think again.
So what you’re saying is you are a genocide supporter. Thank you for your honesty
Yup that is my stance. You got me.
Difference was that when trump was in charge, there was wall to wall coverage of the atrocities US was committing. Then when genocide joe got in charge, crickets.
Funny BC I see a lot of news about biden, isreal, and Palestine.
Now your argument that the media hyperfocused on trump for ratings is accurate. He is a lightning rod for views BC you either love or hate him.
If you have a better polical system to replace this one then the floor is yours.
Do you have any idea where you are
Great point, correct this and let the grown ups talk. They’re
Anyone who disagrees with me must be a child. I’m very intelligent.
If that is the level of your understanding of the world, I’m sorry. I’ll use pictures instead.
He said the line!
Hey grown up, your very serious Last Bulwark Against Fascism is shitting his depends and committing a genocide. You’re a genocide supporter. You’ll never get clean from this.
you should follow your own advice kiddo
I do, it’s called communism and it’s what lifted over 800 million people out of poverty in China in just the past few decades. One has to be laughably ignorant to even ask such an absurd question.
China is a capitalism. China also has camps for Muslims and a 1 child policy that murdered a lot of kids. They have a system that watches their people and rates them.
China is not a capitalism, but given your other comments it’s not surprising that you have no clue about China. Maybe spend a bit of time educating yourself instead of spewing nonsense on topics you have no clue about.
no they aren’t.
no they don’t. you are Hui off base.
if the mode of production gets some blame for individual crimes (as it should) this comparison is not going to come out in favor of capitalism. you just ignore the lives that were improved by socialist policy and ignore social murder when it’s done by capitalists. (btw the 1 child policy ended in 2016, your information is out of date)
:snowden:
shit someone call Robert FICO
So you are arguing for a country that does the same as the US minus it have a “communist” authoritarian head of state?
Fun fact but the Uighers, along with every other ethnic minority in China, were historically exempt from the 1 child policy
If you had a brain this would lead you to question whether or not China is actually conducting a genocide
However,
You need to read more.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037
https://www.npr.org/2021/05/31/1001936433/who-the-uyghurs-are-and-why-china-is-targeting-them
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/31/china-unrelenting-crimes-against-humanity-targeting-uyghurs
For folks passing through:
https://redsails.org/china-has-billionaires/
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq.html#on-mao-maoism-and-marxism-leninism-maoism-and-the-prc
Democratic socialism is a better system.
how to say you’re historically illiterate without saying you’re historically illiterate
I’m sure you will find away
you’ve already done it masterfully
Let me guess that “way” involves voting for democrats every election and punching left?
How original.
Who are you voting for?
Awesome, yeah, you’re so right! I’m going to go vote in an American socialist to be president. Oh, you’re telling me that the entire American political establishment has made this course of action impossible by setting all manner of social institutions, from the press to the criminal justice system, in direct opposition to socialism? You’re telling me every single attempt to establish socialism by democratic means has been subverted and squashed by military operations backed by the US government and the US intelligence apparatus? And that these blatant affronts against democracy are still celebrated by reactionaries in Guatemala and Chile who spent decades murdering leftists for their brief time as the dominant political group, for the horrible crime of putting the means of production in the hands of peasants and workers?
You’re telling me that the only successful attempts at establishing a proletarian state had to “anti-democratically” suppress bourgeois political parties to maintain stability in the face of American imperialists? And that all avenues of peaceful revolution have been tried and inevitably lead to the forceful encounter and resolution of the historical dialectic between classes through violent revolution, just as much as this was the case in every major change of mode of production in history?
Dear golly me then, looks like those Marxists in Palestine, Cuba, the Philippines, Laos, Vietnam, the Soviet Union, China, North Korea, Burkina Faso, South Africa, Angola, and countless other countries that fought off colonizers aren’t just savages who weren’t capable of understanding the noble ways of the Western Left, and liberal democracy isn’t the way for workers to achieve political power. You’re not going to dismantle the master’s house with the master’s tools.
Buddy you are not doing democratic socialism any favors by being a racist piece of shit condemning immigration and then labeling yourself as a democratic socialist.
The people here already have a very very poor view of democratic socialism and you could not have just done a better job of reinforcing their point.
Who are you voting for again?
sorry, i thought you were a chud but i was mistaken, should have realised you are a liberal
So there’s wall to wall anti-Israel coverage of the genocide from the mainstream media? There’s no media support for Biden and Israel, and all the outlets are reporting the atrocities accurately and with the appropriate language? So basically there’s no pro-genocide media anywhere to be seen in the west, is that your claim?
You know news is global now in days. We have the internet. Yes, there is coverage of what isreal is doing and how the US is supporting the genocide in the Gaza. Also how other countries are also supporting isreal.
Now does the US have a media monopoly problem that is supported by certain groups? Absolutely. Your point is both do it but one gets a pass which is not true.
so no, you dont see it from the mainstream media.
Reuters? BBC? Al Jazeera? NPR? PBS? All pretty mainstream.
Reauters, BBC, NPR, PBS are anti-Israel and anti-genocide? Is that your claim?
eating from the trashcan, all the time.
There’s only like 3 major news outlet that are covering the conflict without just taking the IDF at their word: Al Jazeera, Middle East Eye, and sometimes Reuters. Al Jazeera has been the best but Israel has banned them from reporting in Israel. The US State Media has continued to report lies about the genocide like Hamas being the aggressor here, Oct 7th being unprovoked, etc. They fail to report on major events like Israel’s strikes on aid convoys, schools, and hospitals, yet when they do report on these conflicts they get their lines from the IDF who claim these civilian targets are Hamas, or that Hamas is using them as shields.
Acting like the media has been fair or free with regards to this genocide is pretty unhinged, you have to admit that they’re 100% complicit and that it’s very difficult for people who aren’t already clued in to left Tik Tok or other sources of news from a left wing perspective to get an accurate view of what’s happening.
Cmon man. Mainstream press has been nonstop talking about how Biden is upset at Netanyahu, how he gave him a stern talking to, how Rafah invasion would have been a red line, how he is trying to broker a peace deal (that Hamas put forth and Israel outright rejected), etc. etc. while Biden is giving Israel god knows how many tonnes of bombs per day. If you think Biden is getting the heat he deserves for perpetrating a genocide then you are off your rockers. If it wasn’t for the multitude brave protestors the media would have probably even cheered for Biden’s role in this brutal ethnic cleansing.
Would liberals support Trump like they support Biden?
Most liberals are white people that pretend to support social issues as long as it’s not in their neighborhood. So yes
So your argument is liberals secretly support Trump and would publicly back everything he does?
No my argument is certain people like to hold fake banners as long as their way of life and money aren’t affected.
So you’re saying liberals would support Trump like they support Biden and publicly back everything the cheeto does because their “way of life and money aren’t affected”?
So Biden and Trump are equally popular and liberals don’t care who wins?
So you’re saying that I’m say that everyone likes both the same?
No, if we had a more “extreme” canadate that supported higher taxes on wealthy, more social programs/finances for needy, build houses for homeless, tax corporate greed, and stop being the center of everyone else’s world, yes they will flip to his side.
So now actually most liberals are progressives-in-waiting and they wouldn’t back Trump’s pro-genocide stance, is that your claim?
This person doesn’t have enough processing power to have a claim.
what no understanding of politics does to a motherfucker
Awesome, I thought again, and the genocide is still happening. Looks like failing to think beyond electoral politics is useless as always.
If all the choices you’ve been offered lead to countless children getting slaughtered to make Lockheed Martin and Boeing more money, you have a human duty to reject that system and wield political power outside of it you spineless lib.