• RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    I swear, videos like this are peak YouTube lib shit. It’s total fearmongering. Skipping right ahead to the most brutal outcome and never talking about what it would take for such an event to even be possible. Who would be the aggressor in this situation? Who shoots first utterly changes the dynamic of this doomsday situation, and almost none of these videos start with that question. They assume that all these weapons are being fired off at the same time. In fact, in this video they do not explicitly say who fired the first missiles, but it is heavily implied that Russia fired the first missiles.

    Kurtkazat has made dozens of these kids of videos over the course of their existence as well, and they are heavily founded by neoliberal think tanks and philanthropic organizations like the Bill and Malinda Gates foundation.

    FLI appears to be founded by Vitalik Buterin, as he is noted as the largest donor thus far. Elon Musk is a previous donor. Their primary focus appears to be “AI Safety”. Just feels like a fucking laundering scheme, but what do I know.

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    4 months ago

    This is obviously a terrible take, but there’s a tiny bit of me that wants nuclear war in order to see Amerika die. But ya, pls don’t happen.

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    Depending on the quantity of nukes that go off and the direction of the wind somewhere between instantaneous death and a much slower death.

    I’ve been working on my death poses so I can make future archeologists laugh.

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    I’m portuguese and even though we’re pretty cucked for nato I still doubt there would be that much support to fight for america, especially if it starts over estonia or some shit. The communist party here would obviously be a vehicle for anti-war activism as it is now, so I’d be doing that assuming the state doesn’t go around murdering anti-war people and objectors.

    But if I just wanted to drop off the face of the earth? idk, I work for a company that works for the government and the type of service we provide would probably continue, maybe I’d move to the Azores or Madeira just so I wouldn’t get nuked (would be kind of a waste to spend a nuke there right?)

    EDIT: Just remembered that there’s an air base in the azores that would 100% get owned, so maybe I’d just stay where I’m at

    • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      4 months ago

      IIRC, there’s nothing “strategic” (read: nuke-ready B-2s or B-52s) at Lajes Field, just some support craft like cargo planes and tankers. Not to say they couldn’t use it as a stop-over location for fighters or long-range bombers, but if ICBMs and Tridents are flying, it’s so far down the priority list that you’re probably not getting hit with a nuke when a conventional strike is enough to take out the runway.

      • grandepequeno [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        4 months ago

        Good to know, among the left here the Lajes Field is mostly known as the place where Bush, Blair and our PM at the time Barroso (who later went on to head the EU comission and then to Goldman Sachs) declared war on Iraq

    • Tabitha ☢️[she/her]@hexbear.net
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      4 months ago

      The cool thing about Portugal is that if/when Russia/China/Iran/USSR/Monglia (IDK what’s going on) already fought all of Europe and finally gets to your doorstep, you can just assume NATO already lost and surrender without a war.

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    I would probably be fine. Nothing bad ever happens to westerners. All that war stuff is something that happens to the people in the jungle.

    Besides, all of Russia’s nukes are bad and old and non-western so none of them probably works. In the case they should work, superior western military technology is going to shoot them down.

  • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Nuclear War with Russia would inevitably draw in North Korea and China. In Annie Jacobsen’s Nuclear War: A Scenario, the president is basically given an ala carte set of options with different levels of mass destruction. The problem is that even the most “minimal” response to an attack , would result in the fallout and subsequent death of citizens in nations not directly involved; this would be treated as an act of war and lead to their subsequent response. Which would lead to further escalation.

    Additionally, given the assumed targets in America, Russia, North Korea, or China involve military facilities and, next in the list, nuclear reactors. Just one hit near a reactor would lead to a meltdown and a plume of radioactive smoke that would destroy any and all capability for life in a massive radius (a collapse in the energy grid would be the least of our problems).

    In short, anything above a hot conventional war would lead to catastrophic consequences to the the human race.