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    This is NOT a purity spiral

    Right, because that’s exactly what people who are not in a purity spiral say.

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        Basically, it’s a term used for infighting in a group/cult stemming from one or more members being pointed to as straying from the original cause. It often happens when one group sees another group within the same crowd as not pure enough. The first sign of this in this particular context was when Maga started referring to many supportive Republicans as Rinos.

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          Happened to my grand parents’ church in the 90s. They had this big disagreement over rocks (not joking) and then the infighting tore the church apart. Half of the group left and built their own building across the street and the other half stayed. Neither church ever really recovered from that.

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            They had this big disagreement over rocks (not joking)

            Please don’t leave us hanging on the details

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              There was a children’s summer program where they painted crosses on rocks and other symbols of faith, like the Jesus fish. They were having the kids hold them in their pockets and hold them while they prayed, like a daily reminder kind of thing but also an arts and crafts idea.

              Well, one elder got super pissy about the idea their grandkids were “praying to idols” and got a bunch of parents all hot and bothered. After a bit of handwringing, the church asked the teacher to either step down or leave the church. That triggered the other half of parents who either 1) didn’t see the whole ordeal as such a big problem or 2) liked the teacher and their family. Chaos spiraled from there… all over painted rocks.

              Edit: this happened in rural Texas, there wasn’t much going on down there so I’m convinced people did this kind of thing for the mere sport of it.

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                Amazing that arguments like this were tearing European cities and nations apart 500 years ago. At least this time no one was willing to die for their cause. But you can see how quickly it spirals out of hand.

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            And the green party in Sweden. Went from a lefty pro environmental party to some crazy anti everything party.

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          The term “RINO” is much older than MAGA. I remember hearing about them in the 1980s and 90s, and even then it wasn’t like it was a new concept.

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          Yeah no it was clear from context, just never before publicized to any degree, and a weird term to begin with.

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      Rats are actually wonderful, loving little creatures. Maybe “wasps” is a better perjorative, for more than one reason?

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        I’m not that guy, but someone from science_memes will be here shortly to advocate for the many wonderful qualities of wasps for some reason.

        I guess they’re also considered pollinators? And . . . some of the species aren’t psycopathic murderous bastards? Or something.

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          They kill pest insects. They’re voracious hunters. And they are the only insect that pollinates figs.

          How’s that?

          Amazing how even asshole wasps manage to be more useful than MAGA creeps. There’s not a single useful thing they do for anyone or anything. Hell, they even shoot dogs!

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          Some social wasps are poor to middling pollinators. Some social wasps don’t pollinate at all. All social wasps are flying terrorists.

          Add some more bees and get rid of all social wasps.

          Solitary wasps are cool, though. They can stay.

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            Nooo they kill pest bugs!

            Wish we could convince them to expand their repertoire and go after MAGA pests too…

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              So do other species that aren’t evil incarnate!

              If we could change their behavior into leaving all humans except fascists alone, I could see the point of keeping them around, though 😁

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          To be perfectly clear, domestic rats and wild rats are different. Domestic rats are bred to express behaviors appropriate for living with humans. But either way, they are incredibly smart, clean, and capable of a lot of love and compassion.

          There have been many experiments to investigate rat social behavior, which show that they will ignore food in order to help another rat “in trouble,” even if they’ve never met that rat before. They will also show friendliness to a new rat from a different species if they have met and interacted with a different rat from that species before.

          As the video explains, rats do have a very short lifespan. Two years is good for a domestic rat, and I’ve been in full weep over losing them. I just can’t do that anymore, it’s too often.

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    We want the energy, passion, and future-facing vision

    Maybe the candidate is the problem? Just a thought.

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      “Those people are all working against us, sir.”

      “So who do we got?”

      “Cynical self-interested assholes and weirdos who sniff bike seats.”

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    The revolt was likely begun by far-right extremist Nick Fuentes

    I hate that this shitbag has any amount of sway in our politics.

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      The fact that this “incel” got caught on stream watching gay porn and wasn’t immediately purged from the right-wing movement says a lot about how seriously the right takes their values.

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        Woah. I had no knowledge of this. Searched and found it on the old site. I am genuinely shocked that I hadn’t heard of this already.

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      I don’t think I’ll ever understand how non-white people end up involved in a white supremacist movement in any capacity, much less in leadership positions. What exactly is your end game here my man?

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        From his Wikipedia page (the first sentence is the relevant part but the rest is so funny I had to include it):

        According to himself, Fuentes is of Mexican descent via his paternal ancestors and is Catholic.[27][28]

        Fuentes identifies as an incel (or “involuntary celibate”), although some of his supporters have criticized him for being a “voluntary celibate” after he admitted that he kissed a girl while he was in high school.[14][29] He has described himself as the “straightest guy” and attempted to defend himself as an incel by claiming that “the only really straight heterosexual position is to be an asexual incel”, as “having sex with women is gay … What’s gayer than being like, ‘I need cuddles. I need kisses … I need to spend time with a woman.’”[30][31][32]

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          If an HBO dark sitcom had a character that’s exactly like Nick Fuentes, audiences would complain that he’s too much of an over the top parody to be a believable character.

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          having sex with women is gay

          I don’t understand why someone who is gay would align themselves with people who hate gay people so much, and go through these Olympic level mental gymnastics. You could just… Not be a part of the group that hates you, and be a part of a group that doesn’t care if you’re gay.

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        It’s crazy…my sister in laws family literally snuck in from juarez Mexico in the 80s. They are now legal, and she was born here.

        All of the older family are hardcore Trumpers, are not wealthy, and have family in Juarez still. They are all very pro border security. It’s insane how delusional they are. They literally bad mouth illegal immigrants and even migrants. “Took our jerbs”

        Luckily SIL is not like them.

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            Do you understand that Mexican people can be white? Mexican people can be white. Mexico is a country, not a skin color. That’s why demographic questionnaires have “white, hispanic” and “white, non-hispanic” as separate entries.

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              That’s why demographic questionnaires have “white, hispanic” and “white, non-hispanic”

              No they don’t. They have 13 flavours of Asian, then ‘aboriginal’, caucasian and black, none with any granularity deeper than that. I assume Latinos come under ‘caucasian’ here but I’d support a case of abo too, depending.

              (At least in my area).

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            What bearing does his religion have on his skin color?

            Does one have to be catholic to be a “true Mexican” or something?

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    Yes, please do fire them and hire even worse ones, just like you did with your lawyers in your many court cases.

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      We all know who’s in charge of the shit show and it’s not them. They’re just doing their best to keep the shit contained.

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    It’s almost like conservatives are prone to devouring their own at the sign of any weakness. What sad, terrible existences.

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    I like their energy…

    “I can clearly see that [the Trump 2024 campaign is FAILING! We want to see changes! We want the energy, passion, and future-facing vision that we know Donald Trump for. Stop the autopilot into oblivion and fight for us!"

    Trouble is that it’s sleepy Don that’s lacking the energy and the passion.Sad!

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    I can’t wait til they notice things really took a nosedive when he announced his VP pick. I’m willing to bet that sooner or later, they will demand he dump Vance.

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      They would have to then lose Ohio’s votes for VP because the Ohio filing deadline has already passed (Aug 7th) and they didn’t change things before it

      Ohio’s deadline is the reason why the democratic party had their virtual rollcall thing recently

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        Except they did push the deadline forward, but did not make the law to do that effective until September, or something like that. I’m convinced they did that on purpose, so they can accommodate a late Republican change but still have reason to complain about a late Democratic one.

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      Are the Trumpets going to try to hang another of Trump’s VPs? That was a record turn around time.

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      And that’s when you take them to court because it’s too late in the election cycle, they’ve already printed out the ballots, blah blah blah.

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    Wouldn’t it be ironic if the Civil War we were all so worried about turned out to be a bunch of incels in Spider Man PJs angrily pointing at each other

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      It’s pretty much that. When you pair all these supposed militias against each other, it’s mostly “Diesel vs Solar” in how they power their shitty camps. They’ll kill each other before any rational American who didn’t agree with them.

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      DES MOINES, IOWA - JANUARY 15: Republican presidential candidate, former U.S. President Donald Trump’s senior campaign advisors Susie Wiles © and Chris LaCivita ® leave a meeting with Trump on caucus day, January 15, 2024 in Des Moines, Iowa.(Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

      I bolded some parts

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    I wouldn’t get too excited, it’s a bunch of fringe edgelords on a platform no one uses. Hoping it spreads and they start to fracture, but groypers are a pretty fridge edge of the maga movement.