• linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1093·
    vor 2 Monaten

    Floods like this happen all the time

    And if they don’t it’s still a very natural thing to happen

    And if it’s not, it’s a cycle and it’s been the same since historic times

    And if it’s not then you shouldn’t build near water

    • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netMEnglish
      201·
      vor 2 Monaten

      Lol: someone reported this comment as ‘criminally wrong’ because they didn’t get your sarcasm

      • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
        151·
        vor 2 Monaten

        Damn the one time I don’t put a /s

        I honestly didn’t expect anyone not to get it, that’ll show me.

        Just to help for anyone else wondering it’s a modified version of the narcissist’s prayer.

        • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.worldEnglish
          81·
          vor 2 Monaten

          I guess it’s close enough to some folks viewpoints to hit a nerve.

          I’ve had some conversations that make me want to time travel to prevent the conversation from happening.

    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
      171·
      vor 2 Monaten

      Ashville NC which is kinda the epicenter of where the worst of the reporting is coming out of is 250 miles from the coast and located in the mountains. This isn’t just “yeah you built in Florida you signed up for extreme weather events” this is “the fucking Appalachian mountains flooded!” This should be the wakeup call the climate change is coming for everyone and will make more extreme weather events for everyone

    • dubious@lemmy.world
      6·
      vor 2 Monaten

      i see the sarcasm, but now for a real question:

      we are already seeing the things they warned us about years ago happening now. further unrealized warnings call for large habitat destruction. we could see large extinction events. the same people that bury their heads in the sand are the ones who stand in the way of legislating solutions to mitigate this. entire species of animals that are completely innocent could die because these ignorant people will block solutions. what do we do?

      • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        vor 2 Monaten

        Vote for who you can. Push to remove first past the post. Then vote for your best option.

        Fund/work protests. Sadly there is little you can do alone to make a difference

          • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            vor 2 Monaten

            There have been plenty of protests over time but never anything big enough to make anyone in the government worry whatsoever. They’re not going to act until they’re afraid for their jobs.

              • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                vor 2 Monaten

                Not sure, did you catch the footage of the massive Hong Kong protests?

                They are not really considered successful.

                • dubious@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  vor 2 Monaten

                  yeah, that’s kinda my point. I don’t think protests mean shit any more. I think that’s a 20th century relic at this point. I wish someone would prove me wrong. I’m kinda being drawn to a single conclusion and I don’t see anybody else promoting any better ideas.

    • Crampon@lemmy.world
      71·
      vor 2 Monaten

      For real though.

      If you settle in an area famous for being a flood plain, you can’t be mad about it when the plain floods.

      Germany are now doing experiments with controlled flooding of old flood plains to channel water away from too narrow man made canals. The flooding also kills invasive plants as they were only allowed to grow because of the geological changed forced upon the land.

      interesting watch on the topic.

      Lar summer in Norway we had a flood matching the regular high points. Only issue was that the last high point was almost 100 years ago. So people stopped caring and the areas close to the river was regulated as river front houses.

      Climate change is an issue. But people being dumb as fuck is an even greater one.

      • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        vor 2 Monaten

        They got 36cm of rain in short order. Places that aren’t in the 100-year flood plan still got drowned.

        The area is primarily rolling hills. So every time it flattens out just a little bit every tiny creek just overflowed.

        A couple hundred miles inland you can’t just expect everyone to build only on the top of the highest location.

        This is deep in climate change denier country. I suspect we’re about to get some climate change converts, after it’s way too late.

        • Crampon@lemmy.world
          52·
          vor 2 Monaten

          I’m not claiming to know anything about this specific flood. Sure might be sick idk.

          But there’s a huge amount of crisis’ that got greater because of how we built, not what happened.

          Take the flood in Pakistan last year. The same flood happening 50 years ago in the same area wouldn’t be such a catastrophe. What caused it to be so severe was the amount of people who had settled in a valley which is carved out by smelting water from glaciers. Building smarter is the most rational solution for short term gains. Stabilizing the climate is a much greater endeavour, and might be impossible short term.

          • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            vor 2 Monaten

            Yeah, that’s fair. For the most part in the US insurance companies charge you based on the 100-year flood plan for a given area. A place is in danger of flooding They charge you a significant amount of money for your home insurance which is required to get a loan for a home.

            With the escalating climate issues however, I suspect a lot of those insurance rates are under covered.

  • SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz
    84·
    vor 2 Monaten

    My sister is in Asheville. She now has no car and just got electricity back on 2 days ago.

    She says that her home will not have access to water for 3 months.

    Shit’s fuckin’ bad.

      • affiliate@lemmy.world
        311·
        vor 2 Monaten

        if there’s no one reporting on how bad things are, then things won’t be as bad. that’s how we stopped covid after all

      • buzz86us@lemmy.world
        7·
        vor 2 Monaten

        Sure there just won’t be any survivors because the storm wool come people won’t be prepared

    • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
      15·
      vor 2 Monaten

      Yeah, hearing similar things from others; it takes a really long time to fix the utilities when the roads are washed out all over the place, and need to be repaired to even bring heavy equipment in to many locations.

  • solsangraal@lemmy.zipEnglish
    752·
    vor 2 Monaten

    GOP: “it’s not climate change. it’s democrats controlling the weather”

    also GOP: “god is in control of everything!”

  • Zier@fedia.io
    221·
    vor 2 Monaten

    This is what happens when the Frosty machine breaks and thaws out.

  • Snapz@lemmy.world
    181·
    vor 2 Monaten

    Sir, this was a Wendy’s.

    Now please stop rolling coal and spraying aerosols performatively to “own da libs” and swim to the next window

    • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      vor 2 Monaten

      It’s like pooping on your own floor to get back at someone for saying you shouldn’t poop on the floor.

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
        2·
        vor 2 Monaten

        Waffle House is a reverse safe zone. It gets more dangerous as you approach and then inside it’s suddenly safer than the police station. Interrupt Little Pete’s pecan waffles one more time, you’ll see.

    • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
      91·
      vor 2 Monaten

      The move they’re making is to claim that Democrats control the weather and inflict storms like this on people. It’s bullshit, like most of their other claims, and really reeks of desperation.

        • Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world
          71·
          vor 2 Monaten

          True story. Not only is that miserable twat mtg spewing it on social media, but Friday a cousin of mine was taking about it when we went out for beers. That it was intentional so they could clear out certain areas for lithium mining

      • dubious@lemmy.world
        31·
        vor 2 Monaten

        regardless of how much we make fun of them, point out their hypocrisy, etc., these people still have a say in our government. we are witnessing the beginning of the end of civilization. how long are we going to just stand here and watch the world burn?

  • UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world
    9·
    vor 2 Monaten

    Wait till you find out what is going on with the permafrost at the Siberian flats, Alaska and elsewhere. If you freeze stuff in a refrigerator, the power goes out, well all that decomposing stuff will give off gasses and those gasses are way more potent as a greenhouse gas than c02.

    • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
      91·
      vor 2 Monaten

      I am so ashamed of my state. My school made a big deal to teach us about the environment and yet so many of these chill billy garbage freaks don’t care. The worst are the fishermen, if anyone should know better its them.

      I miss old school green peace that used fuck up trawlers and spike trees. But that time is gone now.

      • psud@aussie.zone
        4·
        vor 2 Monaten

        As a hobby fisherman I see that there is no longer snow when I go after trout in the mountain lakes, no longer as much water in those snow fed lakes.

        I notice I’m wearing summer clothes for more of the year and seriously considering getting air-con at home in a city where only commercial spaces had them in the past

  • Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world
    5·
    vor 2 Monaten

    Moved there in my mid 20’s. A few years after there was a “The Flood of the Century”. They found the McDonald’s Grand Piano standing in a field on the Biltmore Estate. By the time I got there the damage was mostly cleaned up to the point you couldn’t even tell there was a flood.

    Used to say that Asheville doesn’t really experience natural disasters…gonna keep my mouth shut from now on.

    Stay strong Asheville…

    • Marighost@lemm.ee
      9·
      vor 2 Monaten

      This city is up a mountain, dude. Some of the people hit hard are in some extremely rural areas, well outside town limits.

      I have some friends in Asheville. I’ll be sure to scold them for not doing enough to fix their city.

    • Kirby
      7·
      vor 2 Monaten

      This is Asheville in north Carolina according to the screenshot which has recently been hit by hurricane Helene. There is no way that I know of to ‘plan a city’ in a way that prevents a hurricane from devastating the area and killing dozens. If such a measure existed, then why wouldn’t it have already been implemented on the south-eastern US coast where hurricanes and tropical storms are most frequent?