• Rom [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    159·
    1 month ago

    “You want every single Palestinian to be f—ing executed ruthlessly on the streets so that you can build another f—ing theme park on Gaza. You f—ing baying pig, you f—ing bloodthirsty, violent pig dog,” Piker argued. “Suck my d—.”

    “I don’t feel comfortable placing the blame of a violent settler colony that has killed and displaced tens of millions of Palestinians [on Palestine]… I don’t feel like it’s appropriate to lay the blame in the hands of anyone that is resisting against their own brutal occupation,”

    waow-based

    • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
      3·
      1 month ago

      Quotes like that are genuinely why even when my contempt and disdain for 99.9999% of the streamer-sphere is factored in, I don’t lay into Hasan as hard as I would anyone else. It’s hard enough to get anonymous civilians to have even half correct takes about settlerdom, never mind someone whose whole career is sitting in front of a live camcorder.

  • neo [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    133·
    1 month ago

    “To his millions of impressionable fans”

    Unlike you, our unimpressionable and enlightened Fox News viewers and readers. We are not a pure propaganda outlet for reactionaries. We just report and let you decide.

      • SadArtemis [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        10·
        1 month ago

        I must admit, when they do actually start curbstomping the libs I’ll gladly cheer it on. Those who have stood with or compromised with the empire thus far all the way to industrial genocide, those who have been more than happy to fuel all the “red scares,” “yellow perils,” and blood libels against every other group, those who have comfortably enjoyed their “centrism” and imperial privileges while demanding the loyalty of those they slaughter, and who play “respectability/etc” games with literal Nazis, will deserve every bit of what they get.

        Hell, if I’d had anything to offer the liberals, it would be my joining in to stomp them to the ground (not that I would, counterproductive in this context probably). They are lower than scum and at least that’s what anyone and everyone with a lick of sense or reasoning (even if it’s incredibly poisoned reasoning like with the “honest” fascists) can recognize.

      • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        561·
        1 month ago

        Ethan Klein is a dumbshit zionist who considers himself an important political commentator despite the fact he rose to prominence with a video called vape nation where he played a character that was a 10% exageration of his actual personality.

        His wife is literally former idf

        Hasan has pointed both of these things out.

        This has made Ethan very very upset and shockingly his fans have responded by alternating between calling hasan a terrorist and accusing him of being racist.

          • junebug2 [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
            36·
            1 month ago

            then google it. mr. klein has been publicly feuding with hasan for months. people here are broadly familiar with that. you pushing the glasses up on your nose and saying, “um, actually, if events aren’t mentioned in the article from fox news, then they didn’t happen,” is asinine. no investigation, no right to speak

              • TheDoctor [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                20·
                1 month ago

                Ethan formerly hosted a podcast with Hasan and they had a falling out over Israel. Ethan is now regularly scouring the subreddit of Destiny, another even more unhinged Zionist streamer. This is relevant because Destiny’s community is particularly focused and organized around deplatforming Hasan. They have Discords where they prepare copy to engage in mass emailing/call campaigns to get Hasan negative press and lost platform space. So this article is part of a larger pattern in which Hasan is suddenly coming under a lot of scrutiny in relation to his takes on Israel. It’s relevant because Zionists have organizational structures dedicated to this and the existence of this article is likely a result of said structures.

      • grandepequeno [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        38·
        1 month ago

        Ethan is politically illiterate so he thought he and hasan shared politics, so he invited him to co-host a show on his multi-million subscriber channel. They mostly dunked on conservatives but it was always tense when the subject of real left politics came up (china, socialism, anti-imperialism)

        After oct 7 ethan has just been regurgitating liberal zionist talking points, and a few months ago he made a huge video criticism hasan’s anti-zionism, hasan ignored him for the most part and ever since ethan has been on a crusade to EXPLICITLY get him, his friends and anyone with radical leftist politics deplatformed off twitch.

        Which is a big part of why this anti-hasan thing is catching steam, ethan is a prominent liberal jewish youtuber with a show that nets 500-800k views an episode, and he’s leveraged his own and destiny’s communities to, as he puts it, “hold hasan accountable”

      • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        271·
        1 month ago

        Oh yeah, apparently, they had a political podcast together, called “Leftovers”, but it was prolly no coincidence that after Oct. 7, 2023, they stopped it, likely due to contrasting politics, and Ethan Klein having an Israeli wife, Hila, who, ranging from what Ethan says to what Badempanda (Hasan ally) revealed, was merely just an IOF reservist little Eichmann logistics manager, to a participant in IOF raids in the West Bank

        The immediate spark prolly happened when Ethan Klein, allied with Destiny, tried to help dox a Yemeni teen who was memeing about the Ansrallah Red Sea attacks, calling him “terrorist”

        • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.netEnglish
          16·
          1 month ago

          A little bit of feedback for you (please take this as gentle ribbing and nothing more): I would have left this lib unbanned long enough to see the response to my comment and, more succinctly/clearly the comment by Babs below. Because I think we (especially Babs, actually) really got to the root of the “misunderstanding” (it well might have been intentional, that’s what I want to know!). And I would have been curious to see their response, because I want to know if they were actually being obtuse on purpose (likely) or if it was an honest misunderstanding (unlikely). But now because our hexbear mods are so online and ban-happy (again, I mean this in a friendly way, I’m usually glad you’re online and ban-happy), we will never know, and I’m a little sad about that. (That last little bit is 100% sincere, I really would have liked to see how the lib would have responded to me, but mostly Babs, because her comment says what I was trying to say, but better.)

  • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    751·
    1 month ago

    Livestreamfail is celebrating this article and it’s really wild to see the like 6 people who haven’t completely rotted their brain going “uhhh guys does it seem weird were posting and celebrating fox news articles and agreeing with all their critcisms?”

    Seriously when did failsons decide the ultimate form of countercumture was to become a fox news obsessed boomer.

      • smallsmellyfrog [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        20·
        1 month ago

        It actually is, a DGG mod took over the subreddit and unbanned destiny. Its literally 1/3 dgg posters in there now. not that it was any good before that, but holy shit does that place suck ass now

        • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          22·
          1 month ago

          It’s also hilarious how you can tell who is actually familiar with anything hasan has said or done and those who know everything they do about hasan from destiny or h3.

          Like there was a highly upvoted comment saying “here comes a three hour stream of him whining and playing the victim” and the top response was “what? Have you ever seen hasan this is going to be an outright celebration.”

    • BashfulBob [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      22·
      1 month ago

      it’s really wild to see the like 6 people who haven’t completely rotted their brain going “uhhh guys does it seem weird were posting and celebrating fox news articles and agreeing with all their critcisms?”

      Its 2002 all over again, folks.

      Seriously when did failsons decide the ultimate form of countercumture was to become a fox news obsessed boomer.

      Don’t get too upset over the comments section of a social media website. A ton of that shit is artificial and the part that isn’t is coming from people who blow in the wind with every news cycle.

  • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    72·
    1 month ago

    “Broadcasts propoganda to millions of impressionable fans” - fox news

    Lmao that is some imax level projection.

    Can’t wait for the scathing story about how a bunch of top level producers are sexually harassing all of his identical blonde daytime hosts.

    • eldavi@lemmy.mlEnglish
      31·
      1 month ago

      i wonder if the streisand effect is the intention because it causes engagement in a story that would otherwise be mostly ignored.

  • darkcalling [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    48·
    1 month ago

    I knew this was coming. I was just thinking yesterday how it’s amazing how he hasn’t been deplatformed already but given Trump, the circling of wagons ever tighten for the zionist occupation with propaganda like about the soccer hooligans. The hammer was inevitably going to fall on Hasan and the fact he makes Twitch money is not going to be enough to save him.

    He needs to be prepared to move his audience to a sovereign platform not under control or influence of imperialist outrage machine and he needs the plan for that ready yesterday.

    Not easy to do but at least some way he can keep in touch if the hammer falls and drag some portion of his audience which would end up being much smaller admittedly with him.

    Because I am positive that the new trifecta of Republicans are going to go for the old red meat and plenty of it, fearmongering about “radical left” and all that and Hasan is perfect for that. So while this outrage may or may not get him deplatformed from Twitch once it rises to the notice of Mr. Bezos that one of his machines is elevating an anti-imperialist anti-capitalist, I think we can be pretty sure the pressure will be dialed up to 11 sometime between January and summer of next year. The Democrats and liberals are all in on it and attacking the left after their loss to Trump, they’ll merrily join and call for more information control, more censorship in other words painted in rosier terms.

    When they pass laws to even further strip the 1st amendment of protections for anyone against empire it will be with the strong urging, support, and design of Democrats. And yet their blueanon voters will howl how Trump is the one who wants to censor and control things while their party urgently works to build a better machinery of control for him or anyone else instead of doing the obvious thing which is to push back on all attempts at censorship, to rebuke in times like these government power and meddling. Hopefully a few liberals notice this.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      38·
      1 month ago

      I agree with you, and I’ll go one step further. Hasan needs to be prepared for unhinged Zionists attempting to murder him and his family. This ranges from hiring security to being prepared for self-defense to moving out of the US. The cold harsh reality is that Hasan is no longer safe in any Western country. These Zionist freaks are no joke when they feel like the legal system will protect them, and they will be protected. And I’m saying this as someone who doesn’t particularly like his content or particularly respect streamers as an occupation. But I know a call to “rid this troublesome priest” when I see one.

      People in this thread shouldn’t be in some celebratory mood. Things are going to escalate really fast from here. Kicking him off Twitch is a given and an inevitability, but the Zionists will not stop there. They will first start to do light property damage like slashing his tires. Then they’ll escalate to something like firebombing his house. Then they’ll escalate even further by trying to harm but not kill him and his family.

      Remember, we saw a bunch of Zionist football hooligans attempt to conduct a pogrom on Dutch Moroccans and the entire Western media go, “uh atkually, the pogrom was conducted against the hooligans not by the hooligans.” This is no joke, and I hope Hasan doesn’t treat this as one.

      • Comp4 [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        18·
        1 month ago

        Yeah he unironically should leave the country to a place that is not part of the “western” world and even then he should consider hiring a security detail as you said.

        I fear its only going to get worse from here…

        • darkcalling [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
          15·
          1 month ago

          The problem with that is western Europe, Canada, Australia and the like are just as likely to be dangerous in this regard and if one thinks he’s in danger of intelligence action then moving to some third world/global south country with less developed security and police forces makes it even easier to do something like an assassination or assault without much premeditation or risk it goes wrong and your operation gets blown like you have to work around in much of the west.

          Basically the only safe places that comes to mind would be Russia, China, Iran, Cuba but moving to any of those would immediately allow them to paint him as a foreign agent and apply even harsher propaganda and deplatforming techniques as well as probably more dangerous things like arrest warrants, sanctions, being on no-fly-list type of things.

          I don’t think they want to do anything but silence him at this point.

          I can’t claim I’ve watched any amount of his content. I find his history on women’s rights problematic to say the least (incredibly liberal-brained) but he’s unambiguously doing good work in the anti-imperialist sphere and as with Russia our bedfellows may not always be people we find beacons of morality and uprightness.

          • Comp4 [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
            10·
            1 month ago

            Well, I can’t say how much active danger he’s in… but theres a huge difference between individual actors (just some angry chuds), who can mostly be deterred by a security detail, and state actors. State actors are a much more significant threat, which I don’t need to explain.

            If the main threat is from chuds, moving to a country less involved in the culture war and investing in good security could already help quite a bit.

            If we’re talking about state actors… well, I guess he could claim political asylum in China or Russia if he wants to be as safe as possible.

            EDIT : OFC Moving to a non-western country is gonna paint him as a foreign agent …but lets be real the way things are going they might fuck with him even without him moving to China.

            • darkcalling [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
              1·
              1 month ago

              Well the thing is with the zionists there is no dividing line between their intelligence and their casual thugs, they literally bring their “ex”-IDF and Mossad goons to college protests and use chemical weapons on people, they send them with soccer hooligans to Amsterdam to cause trouble and inflict more damage, etc. So in their case there is little distinction where some zionist freaks end and the reach of their state begins.

    • Comp4 [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      26·
      1 month ago

      Frankly, and Im not trying to be alarmist or anything, if I were him, Id consider leaving the country. Being this close to so many unhinged people doesnt seem safe in the long run, and being a prominent, openly left-wing person is likely to become even more dangerous in the U.S. over time. He can do his job from practically anywhere in the world. Hasan must have at least considered it.