China has near global monopolies on these exports, accounting for 98% of global gallium production, 93% of germanium production, and 49% of antimony production.
If the tariffs on solar panels are any indication, this is just going to be an economic stimulus for China’s neighbors, who will be able to sell Chinese minerals to the US at what I at least hope will be a generous markup.
That’s exactly what is going to happen lmao the U.S. acts like it can do to China what it does to Cuba. Too late for that no buddy, you sent all of your production there!
It’s like I’m taking crazy pills! Why are you fucking with our manufacture base?! We have no alternative!! We need to replace them before we fuck with them.
Never interrupt your enemy while they are in the process of making a mistake
I’ve literally had people dismiss me like, you’re a Marxist you just want to see the US destroyed. Motherfucker I love here. I actually prefer it not be destroyed .
I actually prefer it not be destroyed .
I disagree. The US can no longer exist in its current form for the world to ever recover.
If that means that, by some miracle, a successful and peaceful communist revolution happens (by some minority-led resistance), the FBI/CIA/etc. are toppled, and the new government actually starts the long healing process, great. I would be incredibly suspicious of this outcome, but still, unnecessary bloodshed would of course be preferable. This would still not be the US as we know it.
If that means that the US must be overthrown in a world war, then as much as I’d rather not have a world war, it has to happen. Allowing the US (or any of its other allies) to continue genociding millions, and harming and exploiting the lives of billions more, for the gain of a few is unacceptable by any legitimate moral standard.
I agree. The people with the power will never let the problems be solved. It’s just a preference. We deserve what’s coming.
I’m happy to go down with this Ship of Nighmares. Like Stink here, I am disgusted at the unavoidable blood sacrifices that make my way of life tick. I refuse to help an evil rose bloom, even if I live on the very same vine.
I will be singing praises and comforting my loved ones as this rampaging monster is brought down.
If Viktor Frankl can find solace and happiness in a Nazi concentration camp, I can manage to live what’s left of my life happily celebrating the end of this Evil Empire.
Same thing happened with honey. Suddenly Vietnam’s honey exports magically increased to more than their domestic production. Of course nobody cared because it’s all theater.
Really cool and good how we as a country have imperial boomerang’ed so hard that this country is choosing to selectively cherry-pick to have all the bad of the free-market with none of the good.
Economics is when you have blind faith cult adherence to the money line, right?
I mean, yes, basically.
thats definitely the US econ department
Capital E Economics, the state religion
Whoever has the other 2% of the gallium supply sweating rn
Its Russia lmao and they account for >50% of remaining gallium production
The remaining 1% be sweating then.
The UK
Invade the UK invade the UK invade the UK
Wanna guess who the second biggest (although massively behind obviously) is…?
spoiler
Called gallium
Mostly found in China
Please invade
all the same
The hermit kingdom of America baby let’s keep the isolation going!
So this means we’ll stop being an empire right?
It’s not what they expect, but yes
Trump: “Make America analogue again!”
Real abacus hours
All the analogcels screeching that they can’t get their germanium diodes
RIP boutique fuzz pedal industry
I’ve got three diodes. About to list them on Reverb for like $5k each.
if they ban the export of vacuum tubes too the entire guitar industrial complex will be on its knees
BRB, about to buy all the tubes I can (like five) to sell to desperate tube-o-philes as I crank my digital amp
Don’t worry, all those dentists will still have their Harley Davidson motorcycles to spend their money on.
Oh no, we’ll have to get the same shit but 3000 dollars cheaper from AliExpress
This is the response to Biden’s tariffs! Trump looking at this and going “More!”
gallium
germanium
it would be really funny if china just started referring to e*ropean countries as if they were provinces of the roman empire again
Death to America
Wtf France has two elements named after it? That’s bs
There’s a tiny village in Sweden with 4 elements named after it.
there is a place in f*nland called bear’s asshole. it is in no way the only place w/ a name like this. why yes i have in fact experienced schlong lake.
js the country is a shit hole BUT having just one scientific thing named after a bizarre location there would do a lil bit to redeem it maybe
this is also the only redeeming feature of terf island, it has an unlimited quantity of extremely rude place names.
but then again, there is a place in spain that basically translates as “the fuck”, as in the act of fucking
there was a fairly popular hang out spot near where i grew up called “horny rock.” not sure if it’s like as in heat that animals experience or uhhh due to it being a long standing gathering point for hormonal teenagers
In Denmark there is a town whose name can be translated as “dick”. The next town over is named “intestine”. If you drive south you can cross the border to Germany in a village named “semen”. Don’t go north though or you might end up in the joyful village literally named “darkness”, you will have a better time in “beer place”.
And for some reason English-speakers seems to think the town of Middelfart has a funny name.
And for some reason English-speakers seems to think the town of Middelfart has a funny name
You haven’t experienced memorable place names until you’ve visited Newfoundland & Labrador. Come By Chance, Witless Bay, Dildo, Ferryland, Blow Me Down, Joe Batt’s Arm, Leading Tickles, Placentia, Cupids, Happy Adventure, lots of fun names.
Ytterby?
Yeah
My personal historical revisionism is thay Gallium was actually named after chickens and not Fr*nce
Is it historical revisionism if it was claimed at the time? Lecoq was accused of naming it after the Latin translation of his own name (Gallum, Cock) and though he denied it, it was never disproven.
Bro was really named Lecoq like wtf how is that not a sigma level troll
Let’s bringing back “satellite states” to refer to US vassals.
If I gather anything from the more knowledgable people in the comments it is that the US needn’t worry, because these resources aren’t just exported by China, but also by Russia and no one else in the world. So they just need to cash in those years of Russian goodwill they’ve built up and this shouldn’t be a problem.
Are you telling me that being blindly antagonistic in every corner of the globe simultaneously actually has consequences? Because that sounds like Russian disinformation.
No, it will be fine. Considering how much of the Earth’s surface is taken up by Israel and Taiwan I’m sure there is an endless supply of rare earth minerals to go around.
Well 2/3 of the comments here a jokes barely talking about the issue so idk.
Imo is if American tariffs and sanctions didn’t work back in 2022 why should it work for anyone else? China isn’t about to police world trade flows in order to make sure these exports wont end up in the US. In practical terms this is just incentivizing the black market supply for it. You should rather temper your expectations that this will actualy have a meaningful long term effect at all.
Yes NATO artillery stocks are low but clearly the US doesn’t give a fuck about it given the Ukrainian missile escalation this recently so its one of those things that technicaly ought to matter but in reality doesn’t at all. Yeah Ukraine is even more assured to not get more supplies and that changes nothing given they lost this war years ago already.
I think this is an apples and oranges situation. China is not sanctioning or tariffing, they are banning exports of specific items for industries that their government is entirely in control of. The US can say tarrifs this and sanctions that but the private companies can do whatever they want, the US has no real power over them. China has unilateral control over these minerals and nearly every nation that trades with them has a strong incentive to not only follow whatever boundaries China sets for the minerals, but many of these nations are probably also happy to to comply because they don’t have good relationships with the US either. If any one is middle manning them to the US, China is approving it, and I’d bet that if they say not to, it won’t happen.
If anything I’d be worried about nations like Bolivia who also have some of these metals because the US could be more incentivized to destabilize them for mineral access.
Now watch
invade some random African Country which has these resources.They dont export these resources. Anitmony can be found in primarily in Russia, but also Myanmar & Bolivia (and Australia), Gallium in Ukraine/Russia, Slovakia as well as the UK lol, and Germanium in Russia and Northumberland
Australia
No need to fear, Americans, we are as always standing ready to be your imperial lapdog
I just posted this. Antimony is not extracted in any real significant numbers outside of Russia, South Africa, Bolvia, and China. China alone produces over 90% of it. Hunan province is the jackpot on the stuff. Bolivia is the second biggest producer at just under 5%. Russia and South Africa produce about 1-2%. That’s it. Some countries have strategic stores of it and some have a small mine here or there that is used purely for themselves because it is all they have. The US has 0 antimony mines currently. The US could waive environmental concerns and heavily subsidize a mine or two but it won’t meet the needs of the military to produce the munitions which require it, like artillery shells.
and beyond that, as far as I know it takes several years to get a mine up and running. so even then you are looking at a few years of the empire not producing any shells or at least producing them at insane cost markups
not doubting you, but for the sake of sourcing can i get some links for this
What do you need sources for exactly? Who produces what? That the US has no antimony mines of it’s own? All this information comes from disparate sources but is easily verifiable through simple searches.
i know you’re right i just wanted to find something to read about it
A good video primer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwWur61HV-Q
His source for antimony production is different from sources I found, but then again I’m not saying his are more or less correct. It is possible they use different metrics or that the numbers are estimated in different ways - or both.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Gallium in Ukraine/Russia, Slovakia as well as the UK lol, and Germanium in Russia and Northumberland
Whoever named these needs to check a map next time!
Antimony is a rare earth mineral needed for the production of all modern artillery shells. The US has no antimony mines. China controls its extraction and owns like 90% of the mines in Hunan province. Other mines are located in Russia and South Africa. Bolivia is the second highest producer behind China. Pretty much no other nation produces it. That’s it. Four countries.
Bolivia is the second highest producer behind China
Aw fuck. Looks like we’ll start seeing mass protests in Santa Cruz
Yeah they surely will try again something.
- : 2025 surprise is
and 
invading Bolivia to seize antimony production the feds literally tried to kill Evo Morales like a few weeks ago! he said it himself. the people who tried to kill him were not locals https://youtu.be/YfrNXlYbwlY
Oh wow. I knew about the falling out he had with Arce, but didn’t know Arce went that far right. I guess the US already got their guy in charge.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
The US national stock pile is set to be depleted in 2025.
It’s fucking crazy such a simple weapon hasn’t been simplified in its supply chain demand for over 100 years. Antimony is literally used to harden the metal casings of the shells. That’s fucking it. Seriously. That’s fucking it. For 100 years the greatest most capitalisticalist empire on earth couldn’t figure out how to more sustainably harden artillery shells without using a rare earth metal.
most capitalisticalist
I think that answers the question. The US has been perfectly fine exploiting other countries to get it for that amount of time and thus has no reason to do anything else
Ironically this isn’t the first time it’s had this problem. Japan stopped giving it to them around WW2.
It’s also a component for stable and reliable fuses.
But yeah, I agree. You’d think there would be other options. There probably are. But in America’s hubris they most likely presumed they could just bully anyone into being suppliers for these materials.
While Antimony is certainly rare (contextually) and an earth mineral, using those terms are incorrect in the greater sense - One shouldn’t confuse it (as another reply did) for a ‘rare-earth metal’ or rare-earth element (REE) which is a wholly different group of elements with geo-political contexts.
Antimony is a metalloid (not quite a metal) and is about as scarce as silver, tin and iodine in the Earth’s crust.
Thanks for the context. Additionally, whether or not a metal is rare is a lot less important as to whether or not it can be found in concentrations good enough for extraction on an industrial scale. That’s where Hunan province comes in. They got the mines with the concentrations to make it worthwhile and they’ve got the economic and political willpower to get those mines running because it’s what they need. For that to happen in America we’d literally need to fully fund these publicly but of course we’d keep any profits private. Think of all the corruption and inefficiency you can imagine and there you’d have it.
Corruption? In America? I’ve got a map that says otherwise
Antimony is a rare earth mineral needed for the production of all modern artillery shells.
looked this up to find out what it goes into and apparently it is the best hardener for alloying lead
Also is a component for stable and reliable fuses.
I don’t know if it’s obvious to folks here or not but these are common for doping silicon chips so they can work as computers. Similarly useful for solar panels.
If US chip companies don’t have substantial backup stocks they’re screwed.
Oops
Basing my entire economy around just doing whatever makes a line go up has left me with nothing but a line that has more room to drop
America: “You can’t do that!”
I chose the wrong time to try to get a new everlasting pill
I honestly believe it is the intent of the US to go nuclear and destroy the advanced economies of the world to recreate the post world war 2 order where the rest of the world is in ruins except their shining city on a hill
DPRK will get trigger happy with their nukes if the US gets too close to doing thisagree, which is why they wrecked the EU economy
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The essence of the treathog, many of them will be happy to have less treats so long as “the help” still has less treats than them.
MFW I’m a “Marxist radical” because I don’t think the government should be my personal self-esteem coach as a white guy.
I only want the tide to rise for me. The amount of treats I have is only relevant in the context of how many treats those around me don’t have.
The amount of treats I have is only relevant in the context of how many treats those around me don’t have.
Wouldn’t say that I “only want the tide to rise for me”, but this part here seems true regardless.
How do I know I am socially equal to others unless I’m living comparably to them? Because we can all do whatever we as individuals want? That’s not equality, unless the “Free Market” is unironically a place of equality.
