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      Naw there’s serious momentum for an exit. Most subreddits are banning X links. Anecdotally a lot of people who I would have never expected have reached out to me about Instagram alternatives. We have power here. Let’s not squander it by pretending we don’t.

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    Ditch the apps.

    You are not married to apps.

    Anyone on Lemmy should understand that. We came here from elsewhere.

    DITCH THE APPS.

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    It is important to note that if you followed the official VP Harris or POTUS Biden, those accounts were turned over to Vance and Trump yesterday. It’s not actually an auto-follow because you were already following them.

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      Friend of mine showed a screenshot that the official FLOTUS was just renamed to add “archive”

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        Well that is pretty fucking shitty then. Either conceptualize the potus account as being all presidents ever or don’t autosub people to the new different account.

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        Important context, yes.

        But also of note is that there were users who tried to unfollow and it would re-add. Only blocking worked.

        So its not as clean here as it seems.

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      I wonder if trump is now paying people to comb back through previous posts to look for things he can delete or edit to rewrite history. Now that I’ve said I feel fairly sure he’s doing exactly that because he does anything dishonest that he can which is tolerated

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        Itsan outdated practice but its not stupid in a traditional democracy. Who the elected official is should not make a difference in wether or not people are interested to know what government communicates.

        Changing it would be like if in the old days your dedicated radio station changing frequencies because they got a new boss. Plenty (old people) would just be confused on why there is no news.

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        It’s almost like the president doesn’t actually matter and the state will violently serve capital regardless.

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      Gosh, I don’t know if I’d go so far as to call a privacy nightmare terrible… /s

      Zuck can eat a bag of dicks. Cancel your account. Stop enabling this rich loser.

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      My mom wouldn’t leave Facebook if you paid her. She treats it like it’s the entirety of the Internet

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        I thought Facebook was dying a few years back and I only became more convinced when an older family member was trying to convince me that it wasn’t.

        A social media app that targets old people can’t last.

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        Friendica for Facebook

        Pixelfed for Instagram

        Loops for Tiktok maybe, Haven’t tried either though

        Choice of XMPP/Signal/Element for whatsapp

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          Your average person, let alone tech illiterate boomers, is never going to hop on to federated services.

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            Except all the people switching to Bluesky?

            The issue isn’t federation, it’s the onboarding and “style” of social media.

            Also I don’t think there is a Facebook equivalent is there? If people weren’t on Reddit they aren’t gonna care about Lemmy. The Facebook crowd need a good alternative before they will migrate.

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              My queer FB friends have been moving to Bluesky, which is frustrating because I’ve been on Mastodon for a year. But, whatever. I can deal with two accounts.

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            As-is, no, but an app with a slick dumbed down interface that all we nerds already here despise and equally slick on-boarding flow that hides all the “technical” details could

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            Just need to frame it right. Facebook is full of <insert country they don’t like> propaganda, frendica is much harder to not.

            Pixelfed is also good enough that Zuck is actively blocking it, so we’ve got one.

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          yeah, lemme just sit on friendica all by myself because im the only person in my life that knows what any of this is, no one is moving to these that has a large presence on the meta versions

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            This is the first I’ve heard of it and I’ve been here since the Reddit exodus

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            Okay, but if you’re Friendica user you can natively interact with ActivityPub services like Lemmy or Mastodon, and there are addons enabled on some instances adding BlueSky and Tumblr as well, so if you know anyone using them, you’ll be able to interact with them

            Also if you’re interested in following people you don’t know, there’s Friendica directory, so you’ll not be alone

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        For kids there is TinyBeans. That’s half the reason my older family uses FB anyway… and no way in hell am I putting my kid on FB.

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      Thankfully, mine are too old to ever give a shit about anything on the internet. Sadly, my mother watches fox 24/7… my father doesn’t care for any of it at least and also pokes fun at her for watching that garbage. He still thinks Trump is good because, in his views, he made his stock the highest it ever was, and that’s all that matters. I’m only grateful we never talk about any of it when they see my kids or on holidays.

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    still feel like there’s need to be federated with threads?

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      As someone who was happy my instance was initially federating with Threads, I am also happy they stopped federating after Meta’s moderation changes. Some people see this as an “I told you so moment” but I see it as the situation changed and we adapted. (I’m also not saying that instances who blocked threads from the start were wrong. Even if we agree on the facts of the case, we can come to different conclusions based on our values and priorities.)

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        facebook was a nazi bar since cambridge analityca, they just went mask off a bit

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    Holy Shit. It’s real and it’s nuts.

    I only use the website instead of the app but searching for #Democrat results in démoratie and démocratieparticipative while searching for #Republican results in republican, republican party, republicanmemes, republicanwomen, republicans.

    It’s shocking to experience this sort of censorship in real time.

    I wish I had more influence to get people to more to a federated platform. Me quitting IG isn’t going to do anything other than cut myself off from information I occasionally want to access (local business events).

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      Do it, quit. Even if no one else does it. Stop relying on these tools.

      Stop justifying using their services. Businesses should have multiple avenues to get the information you need. If they’re solely dependent on Meta, they won’t change unless people leave.

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        I completely understand the theory and moral argument; but in practice, how does this take effect?

        If I delete my account, I’m not longer able to see events and sales, etc at local businesses.

        My favorite local grocery store has 32,000 Instagram followers. How many of them have to leave to convince that business owner to start using a federated platform? A local bar I go to maybe six times a year doesn’t even have a website - only an IG account with 5k followers. It’s only because of their IG account that I know they have a chili cookout coming up that I want to enter.

        So logistically, how do we, those who want to jump ship, make these businesses jump with us?

        The best I’ve got is some avatar change to bring awareness but I don’t post enough that anyone would see it anyway. Or maybe actually post something on IG and leave it pinned there. I don’t have any posts on my account so maybe leaving an inspiring post would help. This would require not deleting my account.

        Moreover, for small businesses, I know a lot of them are spending a few hundred or thousand dollars here and there to promote events and sales. This is one of the weaknesses of the fediverse. I don’t think it’s unfair that a business or person has the ability to spend money to ensure their announcement is noticed. Another fed weakness / powerful feature of corporate-social media is the lack of tools for businesses to conduct business. It’s just a lot easier to use these platforms that have ten years of updates to make things work best for the most people.

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          You can just leave. You don’t need to be concerned with businesses. They naturally chase money and will come up with alternative means of communicating if the tools they have now aren’t working as effectively as they need. They probably have a mailing list, or community bulletin board at the physical store that’s been woefully neglected by the social media users. And if they don’t, you can actively recommend it to your favorite businesses and the good ones will do it, or take the idea and make it better.

          You don’t need to tell anyone you left. You don’t need to make a special profile pic and leave that up so everyone knows you left. Just leave. Stop caring about social media. I’ve been off of Facebook and Twitter for damn near two decades now, because even back then I saw how horrible it was for my focus, and mental health I still manage to keep up on events I care about, and in touch with the people that matter to me. It’s 100% possible but you gotta be the one to disengage. Even if no one else leaves, like I had in my case, the people who care will still reach out to you in the ways they can.

          Granted I make throwaway accounts on federated social networks, but this scratches that itch for current info in the things I’m interested in.

          Jesus you guys are fuckin addicted bad. Can’t leave Instagram lest you lose out on that oh so crucial dopamine hit from being in the know. People used to organize. You’ve given away the ability to do that when you don’t even know how to live without Facebook.

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            You haven’t addressed the issue I’ve raised.

            I am and will continue to be concerned with businesses because I’m a human being who needs to eat and has a life outside my home.
            I am telling you that most businesses only use Instagram in place of any other means of notifications.
            It’s currently not possible to keep up with events without having an Instagram account. I already miss out on most events because the instagram algorithm usually shows me posts that are days past the event and I’m not on there for more than an hour in a whole month.

            Your solution, to abstain from life, is not feasible. Maybe it is for you but for most people it’s not.

            You are also missing the point of the matter where these businesses are going to continue to use a platform that is now explicitly censoring information and seemingly pushing fascist agendas. If you were a business and wanted to maintain a relationship with your customers, what option do you have? As I’ve said, the tools to use social media to run a business have been refined for years. There’s nothing close to comparable either in the fediverse, with websites, newsletters, rss feeds, calendars, etc.

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              I’m not abstaining from life for refusing to have an Instagram account, you dunce. And I’m done talking to you about it.

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            There are at least 5 places around me that have only FB account for news lol. No physical bulletin, no mails. And it’s kinda normal for small, local buisnesses like bars, milk bars, fast-food, activity parks etc.

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    I rarely use Instagram but am about to delete my account there. Will be ceasing to use Whatsapp too, and hopefully deleting my account. I’m otherwise off of meta products. Only problem I foresee is that when traveling outside the US, everyone tends to want to use WhatsApp.

    Edit: anyone recommend a WhatsApp alternative? Privacy and widespread adoption are the top concerns. I’m defaulting back to Signal, but I know there have been some issues with it

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      “Yes, if I could, please. Would that be okay?” — more people than you’d like to imagine

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      Are you suggesting that zuckgöring wasn’t always cheeto orange? News to me.