Today I posted a picture of a stamp with an animal in it and they said the picture contained nudity and made me take it down, but I reported a photo of a guy with a fully visible swastika tattoo and they said that’s fine.
I’d like to start a Lemmy community with photos of stuff that they refuse to remove called FacebookSaysItsFine.
Just delete your account, stop using it.
but what other honest and trustworthy corporation do I give all this valuable personally-identifiable information to?
I promise if you give it to me it will be secure since I am such a failure of a person I will lose it.
Can you send me page after page of ads and sprinkle in people in third world countries making street food or doing some jank trade work?
I have some pictures from my trips to South East Asia but I don’t think I took any of the street food vendors.
Outrageous. We are giving you our data and we expect an on-demand personalized highly-addictive never-ending flow of dopamine in return
Sigh. Fine, come over tonight and I will give you a gummy edible. However, you have to stay for a bit and chill while I watch Classic Simpsons.
You call this a social media platform?
Are you a venture capitalist with other people’s money? Because if so I have you know that by our own internal methods of calculation we have 10 billion users and zero bots. Our typical user checks their status 800 times an hour for 24 hours a day. Money please.
I find it hard because of my Livejournal friends, it’s the way we’re still in touch.
By posting stamps with animals in it?
Lol it was a gift from a Livejournal friend regarding an inside joke.
Exchange your email with your fb friends and toss your fb account in the trash.
I made a Facebook account a few months ago, not to post on it, but to access Facebook Marketplace because it’s sometimes cheaper than Craigslist
I would pay NOT to have a FB account
which I suppose I do
Livejournal is still there. I have a permanent account from back when they allowed you to purchase an account for like $100 USD. I mailed them a check and everything.
All my photos and everything are still up. I see other people blogging there too. I still get email notifications from there too.
Just go back to using Livejournal. It’s a fine platform honestly.
Hell I went back to using just tumblr and nothing else really aside from Lemmy as a message board.
I gave it up because it’s basically a Russian government propaganda machine now. Did you listen to the Reply All episode about it? I too mailed a check for a permanent account but it stopped feeling safe in about 2015 so I shut down, nobody posts or reads there anyway that I know anymore. I miss it terribly. It was the absolute golden age of social media and I am closer to those friends than I am to anyone else.
Yeah I stopped using it around 2010 and that was not long after it became mostly Russian. I can’t read Russian so I had no idea what any of those accounts were posting about and I didn’t bother trying to translate the because it was like 2011 and translation online wasn’t that good back then.
I’ve never listened to Reply All. I assume its a podcast.
Anyway, I’m in the US and I don’t stick my head into Russian politics because I don’t think its my place to do so. It doesn’t concern me and I feel like its none of my business and I feel like the US really shouldn’t go sticking their nose in other countries business but of course our government is full of fucking nosey idiots. Always has been and seems to me our history is full of us sticking our nose where it doesn’t belong. I’m not a fan.
So if you have some kind of moral grudge against whatever those people are posting - I can’t agree or disagree. It’s good you stand up for what you believe however.
It’s still just a platform though and there is nothing wrong with you and your friends going there, starting your own community so you can all keep and touch and talk to each other. No one says you have to interact with the Russians there.
It is a podcast and what they found out about Russian Livejournal is INSANE.
You know, I think I remember hearing something about that in passing. Might be a cool deep dive for later.
transcript: https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/n8ho4m
i hope it takes linkedin with it
LinkedIn is the human centipede of social media.
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“I’d like to say thank you to [company name] for hiring me. To the unemployed, get fucked.”
Lol I hate those posts so much
You also have to word it like a tome that reads like you’ve discovered cold fusion and have amazing philosophical insights all due to your amazing colleagues at your internship
I am DEEPLY humbled to describe how fucking successful I am 🥰
I’ve never understood why people use it for socials. Jobs! That’s where it fits in my life. Last two have been through there. That’s all it is.
But haven’t you considered the UlTRa GrInD MiNdseT that could bring real value to your organization? 😘🤷♂️😍🙃🚀😐🥳🎵🇺🇸🎶🦢🤞👍😈🇺🇦🇺🇦🇹🇼🇮🇪🤌🤗🥵👏🤮🙈
Yeah it’s basically like an mlm and boot licker haven
using it as a social media will drive you insane.
Especially if you use the mobile app as it is riddled with ads and there are no mods available as far as I know
Using any of these websites’ apps is insane.
Y’all WANT all of your data harvested, huh?
Why would anyone use LinkedIn for anything other than presenting your professional credentials? I can’t even begin to explain how terrible of an idea it is to post on social media with your resume attached and your career on the line.
There is a person I work with who has the unofficial job of LinkedIn stalking our competition. You can get some ideas of what they are doing this way. Are they looking for someone with this particular skill set? Maybe they are trying to get into another sector. I got a bio on my counterpart over there.
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Agree?
I’m not very active on linkedin, but it seems fine. The job listings are a bit shitty. There’s other platforms that offer better job listings. Also there’s a couple peopke who treat linkedin as facebook2.0, but I can mostly ignore those. I use it to keep a professional network and linkedin seems to be doing an okay job at that.
I remember I made a Kurt Cobain reference as a joke, and Facebook said I was breaking the rules against suicide or whatever.
Yeah, the same Facebook that was totally fine with an actual violent video I reported
The governments should break up Facebook. It needs to be held accountable.
They removed one of my posts for saying I was going to fight a person that doesn’t exist. It was completely obvious that the entire thing was a joke, and again, the person doesn’t even exist, but I guess that’s a more credible threat than all the actual violence that shows up on that dumpster fire of a site.
The good people left Facebook a long time ago. I would even argue before the place was taken over by boomers.
I think ultimately, it was the share functionality that ruined Facebook, because it was once the place where you keep up with your friends, but then the genuineness of it is gone after you realize they only see their friends as a captive audience to get likes and get a boost for their Farmvilles.
It’s a dehumanizing place, which is why it became a wasteland.
I distinctly remember back in 2010 right before I deleted my Facebook, everytime I logged in I would get depressed and sad.
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Facebook was pretty nifty when it first started and wasn’t evil. It was fun to connect with people from high school I’d never see again otherwise. I’ve restarted some great relationships that way. It’s really unfortunate what trash it turned into.
Almost everyone I know still has Facebook, but no one actually posts on it. Personally I only really use messenger (which they just killed, coincidentally).
What’s this about messenger? I still have it because of that one friend who won’t move.
They are getting rid of the android app at least, presumably to force people back to facebook as they slowly starve. Website still works
After that whole palaver of them breaking it on the mobile site on purpose to get us to install Messenger in the first place?!
FML.
Do it, make the community. I’d subscribe. This post got lots of traction. There’s an audience.
I think I’m going to.
Do it!
Why so much anger? Just stop using it. Apathy is better than anger.
I can’t even remember when I logged into fb last.
I hate that an important tool that we could use for simple socialization and sharing of interests is instead in the hands of people who want to sow disinformation and right wing propaganda. To me, making Nazis ostracized is a value we should all share.
Deleted my account about 10 years ago. At times it was hard, but every time I hear about some new crazy shit they’re doing I can’t help but think I did great.
Got you beat by 1 year :) Deleted my account in 2012 when they changed their terms of use to own rights to everything you upload. And I had never used my real name to begin with.
The bottom line is, if you keep using it they will keep doing it.
Just leave and don’t go back. Break the cycle OP.
I find it hard because it’s where I’m in contact with all of my old Livejournal friends from across the world, and it’s the platform where we can talk to each other still. That’s why.
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They probably value their friendship over the ideological stance of “Facebook bad”.
That is quite the pickle… they want the downfall of the platform they share with their friends, but don’t want to leave that platform.
Too bad there is absolutely no other way that OP can stay in contact with those people. There’s nothing that can be done. /s
I hate listening to voicemails but I also love my grandparents, you know?
Yeah you don’t even need whatsapp(which is also Facebook). I wish more and more people knew about phone link which is installed on every pc. You can just use it like messenger. There’s also Skype. Then You can have a temp phone number in which you don’t have to worry about giving out and someone stealing your passwords to things.
It’s not the same and you know it. I have the same issue with Instagram. Many of our interactions through the platform come from us reacting to each other’s content (posts, stories, comments). Without that you lose a lot of “spontaneous” interaction.
Question is: How much does spontaneous interaction contribute to your life.
For me I found, it’s not much more than a regular, short dopamine rush and lock-in in a certain bubble. Do I know a lot less about people? Sure. Do I miss something in my life? Hell no. That added peace is invaluable and a telephone call from time to time is much better.
That’s a fair question.
Usually not much, so I have too started to log in far less frequently. However, as an example, I did get in touch once again with an old friend thanks to it (and we are still in touch), so it did help quite a bit in that regard. But I understand your point and I have been thinking about leaving the platform anyway due to all the privacy shitshow.
get in touch once again with an old friend
we all had this moment but at this time, it’s unlikely any old friends will join FB/Instagram that haven’t already.
I’d rather use my Facebook groups than Kik to plan swinger events, 100 times out of 100. Kik is so shitty it’s unreal.
There’s really no alternative to FB for what I use it for, since swinger sites are hot garbage and a lot of swingers are all over the map in terms of age. And again, Kik is terrible.
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It i literally the reason I’m on Facebook, so I commented.
I don’t care what you think is cringe and I am quite happy with my life, thanks.
I’m not out here proselytizing non-monogamy man. Not sure why you’re being shitty, unless this is some kind of bit you’re doing? Matches your username.
I searched for a community named “FacebookSaysItsFine” and haven’t yet seen anything.
Be the change you want to see in the world!
I just worry people will post things like CSAM on it, but I think it would be very good.
I would suggest the opposite. Perhaps a Facebook doesn’t allow this, community. Too much risk of attracting trolls and monsters.
That said. The FBI says that Facebook, Instagram, Twitter et al. They all contain a not insignificant amount of CSAM at any given point in time. The fact just never gets reported by press because they’re normalized platforms by the public. Only the fediverse gets that sort of negative attention in the press because it’s the disruptive outsider platform. When by both proportion and volume, almost all other platforms have a worse issue with awful content that regularly flies under the radar because they are big corporations.
It would definitely require some very active moderation and clearly-defined community rules. But it sounds like a great idea for a Lemmy community, if you have the time.
Cloudflare has free CSAM scanning tools available - they really just need to implement it.
When did “CP” become “CSAM”?
If you want to change the acronym, wouldn’t “CR” make more sense?
'cause porn is made with consenting adults. CSAM isn’t porn. CR is typically what’s depicted in CSAM (assuming that R stands for rape), but there’s two (or more) separate though closely related crimes here. That and SA (sexual assault) covers a wider breadth of activities, which is good if a person wants to quibble over the term rape when regardless something horrific happened to a kid and videos/images of said horrific thing is now getting shared among pedophiles.
Will note I’ve only seen CSAM used when I started using Lemmy, so I’m not really sure when people started using the term over CP. I’m personally for it - it more accurately describes what it is, and while I haven’t seen this term in the wild SAM to describe video or images of non-consenual sex acts among adults is good too.
I modded for Reddit before, I could manage this.
I worry about this on fediverse stuff. I made the mistake of looking at the links from a person who commented on anti trans legislation and let me just say yikes!
The link was to something trying to legitimize the identity of “map.”
NOPE.
I deleted my comments and blocked the sick bastard.
I blocked some instance that was all porn and that seemed to improve my experience. I’m not against porn, I just don’t care for it myself.
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Yes I absolutely hate it. If people want to watch porn, have at it, but could it please be on a porn site?
Try to stay apolitical and you won’t attract those trolls as early. Which I now realize may be difficult, considering many of the posts would be calling out Nazi scum…
I think only baby boomers are using facebook now. None of my friends are on fb hence the conclusion.
Facebook market place has completely broken and laid waste to all of its competitors. Every woman with kids I know is using it to buy and sell and give away children stuff.
not in Ireland. Adverts.ie rules the day here, thank god.
Freecycle.org is also still active in most places.
People will go where the stuff is. So, when I have anything of value, I take it to anywhere but Facebook, cause, ya know, you gotta put stuff in the other places
With the US being the shit show it is, I’m looking into leaving and Ireland is on my list of possibilities
you can dm me if you’re serious and want visa advice
Kijiji is still putting up a good fight but I always wonder what I’m missing on marketplace.
I promise you plenty of other people are using it lol.
This was why I left. Last straw was me getting banned for a week because I called someone an asshole for openly calling for violence against trans people. I reported their comment as well.
Mine got me banned. Facebook said they were fine.
I sometimes feel like I should have a tinfoil hat on, but I’m honestly willing to bet that wite supremacy groups got members to get jobs at social media companies to purposefully let them get through the system.
Sure. I totally agree. Your basic clean cut fash in tech jobs. It’s disgusting.
It’s not a conspiracy, and it is present across all social media platforms. There is selective enforcement of rules and moderation and now many companies push ‘engaging’ content, which basically means pressing out and promoting ‘safe’ content that is easily agreeable or controversial to increase user time so more ads are seen.
On Reddit, it is very similar. Somebody can say something insane, but it is ‘just an opinion’ meanwhile you call them an idiot, and you get banned by admins. If you even suggest anything ‘extreme’ you are also getting site banned. It just turns everything into a hive-mind which is dominated by liberals. The fact anyone thinks it is a ‘left-wing’ platform shows how dumb people are. It’s very clear that it is made to drive engagement and show ads to maximise income. These social media companies aren’t interested in free speech or fairness. It actively harms genuine engagement because most people just won’t even post or comment if they know it is risking a ban or downvote train where they get shit on. It’s no surprise the platform is now infested with bots and reposts.
I’d like to start a Lemmy community with photos of stuff that they refuse to remove called FacebookSaysItsFine.
I get why you feel this way, but this feels a little superfluous. Like, making that community will never, ever change how Facebook does business, we’re not going to shame them into being better by cataloging the terrible shit they allow. In other words, all we’re doing is choosing to make a forum filled with the horrible, hate-filled posts that Facebook says are okay. I’m honestly more comfortable just leaving them on Facebook and not posting the same vile garbage here to make fun of it, because I don’t think it will change anything other than a history of hateful posts on Lemmy.
We can make fun of how much they suck without bringing their awfulness and putting it on display over here, especially when doing that isn’t gonna change a damn thing. Facebook has the “fuck you” money to ignore it.
Also, by definition such a community would contain a bunch of things we don’t want to see on Lemmy either. So probably better not to.
Exactly!! Why showcase shit we hate? Why spend energy on shit we hate?
That’s a good point. It just makes me mad they get away with this.
I just would love to fight back in some way.
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I personally find it hard to do because I have all kinds of old Livejournal friends on there.
I’d argue we’re already fighting back by being here and choosing something like Lemmy over Facebook.
The more users they lose to competing sites that offer more community for the user, the more their influence will wane and eventually they’ll become like MySpace and it honestly won’t matter anymore, because who the fuck uses MySpace? I honestly think Facebook is coming close to this because young people don’t want to use it anymore. It’s no longer “cool” and hasn’t been for a while. Sure they’ve got Instagram on lock, but they’ve been having a hard time competing with TikTok.
Facebook isn’t a foregone conclusion and, personal opinion of course, the best way to fight back is to simply take away their ability to track you by deleting your profile, visiting Facebook as little as possible, and using Facebook containers in your browser to keep them from being able to develop a shadow profile for you.
Reddit has lots of subreddits making fun of that kind of thing from Facebook as well, and it hasn’t changed how Facebook does anything. I don’t think pointing out how much they such and documenting it actually does anything to them, in the long run. Getting people to stop using their services is a bigger deal. Because people using their services is how they collect data, which they sell to make money. Hit em in the pocketbook, it’s the only way.
The problem with unlimited free speech is that it lets the worst people be free to be even worse yet. There is no such thing as ethical absolutism of any kind; it’s just extremism in a flashier suit, and extreme is by its very nature hostile because it can be used to justify literally anything. Especially by true believers.
Every few years someone gets the idea of creating an internet absolute free speech zone and a few months later figures out why it is a terrible idea. It is never people from vicious dictatorships sharing messages about freedom. It is always child porn, scams, spam, and Nazis plotting terrorist attacks.
Anonymity does that, not free speech.
A few years ago, someone my daughter knew from school was posting pictures of her cuts from self harm on Instagram. I reported it to instagram but they didn’t do anything about it.
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I love how you try to hard to not define fediverse as social media.
Are forums social media?
Yes
Lemmy is social media. Reddit is social media.
It isn’t the same, even if it pedantically has the same label. I have zero clue who you are or who you might be trying to be. You are two sentences at this moment to me.
Based and forums-pilled
There’s no “pedantically” about it. You said you quit all the “Social” media a few years back, yet, here you are, posting and participating in social media. Be as flippant as you want about it, you’re either and idiot or a liar. If we apply Hanlon’s Razor here, I think we’ll all come to the same conclusion.
Where did I say I quit all the Social media a few years back? Please show me the exact comment.
you’re either and idiot or a liar.
Remember that you said this about me while you search thought my comment history for me saying that I quit social media a few years back.
I didn’t “Search” through anything. You literally said it in the comment thread we are in.
Edit. My bad, I mistook you for someone else. I apologize.
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if you don’t think things like reddit and lemmy are social media, you’re beyond the comprehension and intelligence to even attempt to explain to. so yea. i also apologized for making a mistake. something rarely seen in “forums” or social media. sooo fuck off?
Ugh. I would love to stop using it but I need it for school. My college regularly posts information on Facebook groups instead of its own websites and I need Messenger for communication/group work in college.
That would compel me to switch schools
That’s impossible to avoid actually. That’s how all colleges in my country work and generally that’s how life works. Facebook is massive here and Messenger is the most popular instant messaging app among the youth.
Well now I’m very curious: what country are you in?
I’m in South East Asia (won’t reveal more for privacy reasons). Facebook is really popular here.
That’s concerning. Do people seem bothered by this?
No, no one cares. I’m the weird/paranoid one for being weary of data collection by tech companies.
WhatsApp is massive in Asia, except China. They have Wechat over there.
Not the person you’re talking to but I’m in the UK and went back to uni as an adult in 2018. Literally had to install Messenger because it was the only thing the kids used, for the entire duration of our degree. Completely blew my mind!
